Episode 35
Dr. Anna Cabeca, DO, OBGYN, FACOG:
The Keto Green Way of Living...and SO Much More
In this episode we talk all about how the Keto Green Lifestyle is essential in supporting our health, even for men. I am excited to have my friend, Dr. Anna Cabeca here to share her wisdom on the best way to eat for health!
First Aired on: May 16, 2022
Episode 35
Dr. Anna Cabeca, DO, OBGYN, FACOG:
The Keto Green Way of Living...and SO Much More
In this episode we talk all about how the Keto Green Lifestyle is essential in supporting our health, even for men. I am excited to have my friend, Dr. Anna Cabeca here to share her wisdom on the best way to eat for health!
First Aired on: May 16, 2022
Table of Contents:
In this episode:
In this week's episode we are talking all things Keto Green with Dr. Anna Cabeca and just how this lifestyle supports everyone's health, not just women!
Dr. Anna starts us off by sharing how the Keto Green Lifestyle addresses what she calls the Pitchfork of the Devil: hormone imbalance, inflammation, and adrenal dysfunction.
Urine PH is an important indicator of how acidic or alkaline you are. If you are too acidic, your mineral balance is likely to be off.
Eating alkalinizing foods is important, but its not just what you eat!
It is also what you're thinking...who you're eating with, how you've blessed your food...and so much more!
Intermittent fasting is not just ok for women over 40, it provides the rest and restoration we need!
Dr. Anna and I are on the same page regarding a healthy plate.
✅ Healthy Fats
✅ High Quality Protein
✅ Loads of low carb Green Veggies!
Listen to your body and change it up!
Dr. Anna starts us off by sharing how the Keto Green Lifestyle addresses what she calls the Pitchfork of the Devil: hormone imbalance, inflammation, and adrenal dysfunction.
Urine PH is an important indicator of how acidic or alkaline you are. If you are too acidic, your mineral balance is likely to be off.
Eating alkalinizing foods is important, but its not just what you eat!
It is also what you're thinking...who you're eating with, how you've blessed your food...and so much more!
Intermittent fasting is not just ok for women over 40, it provides the rest and restoration we need!
It is in the pauses that the magic happens!
Keto is key! Yes... even over 40, even with adrenal dysfunction!Dr. Anna and I are on the same page regarding a healthy plate.
✅ Healthy Fats
✅ High Quality Protein
✅ Loads of low carb Green Veggies!
Listen to your body and change it up!
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Episode Transcript
Julie Michelson: Welcome back to the inspired living with auto-immunity podcast. I'm your host, Julie Michelson. And today, Dr. Anna Cabeca is joining us. And we're talking about living a keto green lifestyle. Dr. Anna brings her in depth knowledge as a triple board certified and a fellow of gynecology and obstetrics, integrative medicine and anti-aging and regenerative medicine, and her [Page//00:01:00] experience as the girlfriend-doctor to the show today.
[Page//00:01:03] We are talking food as medicine and how the keto green lifestyle supports everyone's health, no matter your age, gender, or health challenges. And our conversation is packed with tips from her new book, Menupause.
[Page//00:01:18] Dr Ana, welcome to the podcast.
[Page//00:01:21] Anna Cabeca: It's great to be here with you, Julie. Thanks for having.
[Page//00:01:24] Julie Michelson: I am so excited to dive into your incredible new book. But I always love to start with stories because most of us didn't decide to get into functional medicine when we were toddlers. So I would love for you to share a little bit of your journey and how did you get to be doing what you're doing?
[Page//00:01:46] Anna Cabeca: Yeah. So really it's that, you know, I think we see this with a lot of functional medicine practitioners and it is our mess becomes our message. Our mess becomes our message. And I think this is, this [Page//00:02:00] is part of the story, right? I, when I. Again, I saw food as medicine because my mom, I grew up in a home where my mom was diabetic and she underwent her first heart surgery at 52 for cardiac bypass.
[Page//00:02:14] And I was 16 at the time. And I recognized that the research that they were basing her care on was done on men. And so that made me an advocate for women's health. And then my mom died 16, 17, 15 years later at the young age. 67. And and at that point I was arrested in an Emory and I was like, well, you know, how can this happen?
[Page//00:02:36] What, what did we miss? And what we missed is what I call the devil's triad, hormone, imbalance, inflammation, and adrenal dysfunction. Those I call that the Pitchfork of the devil and, and I continue to learn and be curious and ask questions. And then my youngest daughter and my kids, it's never just one thing at least, you know, gosh, there's so many stories, little seeds, a little [Page//00:03:00] steps, little pebbles on the road, little breadcrumbs, so to speak.
[Page//00:03:03] But my young, my first born daughter, Amanda, when she was five or six, it was, you know, I was told she was attention deficit. She, you know, had Trump, you know, a trouble being still. And I remember I was breastfeeding in the back of a class with my son and I was doing a hormone therapy class. And this is when you ask question God answers.
[Page//00:03:23] Right. And a beautiful Dr. Gustafson who's since passed away was sitting next to me. I'm like, oh my God, you mind if I breastfeed the symphony? It just like, oh no. And we started talking and and she told me it's like address the underlying issues. That's affecting your daughter. Versus medicating and I'm, you know, Western trained, you know, love the love of the field of medicine.
[Page//00:03:49] And, you know, let's get to the quickest solution as, as quick as possible. And, and it was really fascinating. And she spoke in a language that I knew because I was a chemist before I went [Page//00:04:00] to med school and actually worked in drug metabolism department for why a therapist, one of the. Big pharmaceutical manufacturers.
[Page//00:04:07] And so I started, I understood what she was talking about with testing organic acids, looking at the Krebs cycle, looking at the cellular function. If we can make changes there, we can improve overall health. And there's so much more than I went into early menopause. And I had to, I went on a journey to reverse that and so many little pieces of the puzzle till today I am at 55 years old.
[Page//00:04:32] Still, I am still learning and very humbled by all I, all I have yet to learn.
[Page//00:04:40] Julie Michelson: Well, and I know the contribution you make to, to everybody and to women's health. And so one of the reasons I'm so excited to have you on today, other than that, I always just love talking to you and love seeing your radiant smile. But I know for everybody listening, you [Page//00:05:00] know, you, you just. I love that the devil's triad or the Pitchfork of the devil.
[Page//00:05:07] I got goosebumps when you were talking about it. Cause I'm like, okay, who's listening. That, that doesn't fit. Right. As women, as women with auto-immunity, you know, the dealing with the hormones and the inflammation and the so it's why I am so excited to continue our conversation. And so you mentioned one of those pieces was your journey with early menopause and reversing.
[Page//00:05:33] Let's dig in. Let's talk about you have this amazing new book out menu. Pause. Let's talk about how I love it. I love the play on words, but I, I wanna really get into. Because people don't talk about it. You know, what is this connection between diet and, and hormones and menopause? You know, what, what would a [Page//00:06:00] cookbook for menopause?
[Page//00:06:01] Like where does that even come from?
[Page//00:06:03] Anna Cabeca: Right, right. Like food as medicine. What are you kidding? You mean it's not just estrogen. I know. Like, what is that about? But it is the first medicine. It is the first medicine. It is the first right step that we have to take in healing. Our body. It is to fuel it. Like we wouldn't be able to move our car without fuel.
[Page//00:06:24] We cannot, if we put the wrong fuel in it, it's not going to respond well and saying. Us and food is medicine. This is the first medicine. And in menopause, it's not, you just like power through suffer. Your doctor's not helping you. Well, let's change things up because your body's using fuel in a different way.
[Page//00:06:44] What, wait, hold on. Stop the presses. What do you mean? Certainly didn't learn that in med school. Wait, where's the prescription for that?
[Page//00:06:53] Julie Michelson: It's in your kitchen.
[Page//00:06:55] Anna Cabeca: That's in your kitchen, it's in your kitchen. And one of the things that I recognize, I would [Page//00:07:00] say I you know, affectionately call my second menopause at age 48. When I was spiraling down. Full-blown peri-menopause hot flashes, mood swings, difficulty sleeping P I also had full blown PTSD. So, you know, under the surface, you know, exhibiting all the controls I could being the workaholic until I couldn't anymore and really burning out in that downward spiral.
[Page//00:07:22] And so I, it was, it was that, that journey that, that really humbled me. And that's where I found what I call the Quito green way of living that is by design optimum from our forties onward. And so the brain fog was certainly very troublesome, but what was more troublesome was the weight gain without doing anything different.
[Page//00:07:45] That's right. When my patients used to come in and say, Dr. Yana, I'm gaining 5, 10, 20 pounds without doing anything different. I'd be like, sure. You're not sure you're
[Page//00:07:54] Julie Michelson: Yeah. You're not sneak at snack. Yeah.
[Page//00:07:57] Anna Cabeca: Like, let me see what's in your purse. And I was [Page//00:08:00] totally humbled. I gained 20 pounds without doing anything different. And that was eye-opening.
[Page//00:08:05] And so yeah, so those were, I mean, that's just part of, that's been part of the journey. And so that led me into the keto green way, like restricting carbs, getting into ketosis. And my oldest daughter has seizures, so I'm very familiar with a ketogenic diet and and the research on it. And my patients low carb restriction in my candida patients.
[Page//00:08:25] And I've been very familiar with it, but I started not feeling well. And it occurred to me, women in perimenopause and menopause. When they, when I would put them on this type of restriction, they say, Dr. Ana, I feel like I'm hitting a wall. I'm not feeling good. You know, cloudy. I'm not really struggling here.
[Page//00:08:42] And that was happening to me. So I asked the question why, so I would say like, you know, Anna, why are you feeling this way? I mean, what's going on? Let's let's test, not guess. And one of the simple tests was checking my urine pH, and that was an aha moment for me. Because your MPH is a [Page//00:09:00] biomarker that's, even in my opinion, more important or as important as your weight on the scale as your blood pressure as your heart rate.
[Page//00:09:07] So your urine pH is telling you how you're interacting with your environment, nutrition and external stress. Yeah. And so my urine pH was as acidic as a urine pH paper read. So who knows how acidic I was at that point, but that said no wonder, you're feeling inflamed. No wonder you're foggy. Your body is going to be robbing, you know, stealing from your muscles and bones to keep your.
[Page//00:09:32] Balance. Right. And so that was on a hot moment. So I started adding the alkalinizes and what I noticed was as I added beet greens and kale soup and, you know, extra herbs and spices increasing my mighty maca plus to 2, 3, 4 scoops a day. And and I did all that. And yet I noticed to the mornings, I would do gratitude, journaling or walk on the beach.
[Page//00:09:55] I was more alkali. My urine pH was more alkaline all [Page//00:10:00] day.
[Page//00:10:00] Julie Michelson: Okay. Wait, say that again, because this is, that are, we are so miraculous and this is the piece I have the hardest time getting people to hear, but you just gave us like a scientific way. So it is, yes. What you're eating is so important, but.
[Page//00:10:20] Anna Cabeca: What's your thinking when you're eating, who you're eating with, how you bless the meal before you eat. All of that has an effect. Cortisol is the most acidifying hormone. It increases hydrogen ion secretion across the renal tubules, creating an acidic urinary pH cortisol. Does. Apparently oxytocin does the opposite.
[Page//00:10:42] Does the opposite. So the most alkalinizing hormone, it is the most life-giving longevity hormone. Well, not oxytocin. We're not giving birth, right? We need oxytocin. If we are not, if we're not producing enough, our uterus isn't responding. Quick enough. We add Pitocin as an obstetrician. I would inject Pitocin into an [Page//00:11:00] individual that's oxytocin to crease that contraction and what we feel when the baby's born is that intense bonding.
[Page//00:11:07] Then I'm going to see it so beautifully as the new grandma. Certainly I see it. I also see it in my daughter and her baby. I mean, there's that oxytocin bond, like she's never experienced in her life, right. That, that incredible imprinting that's happening. And that is survival. That is the best of the best, right?
[Page//00:11:26] That is the best of the best. And, and so that was all part of all part of my journey and realizing too where my PTSD was coming in. That was cortisol dominance and it creates oxytocin deficiency and it creates a disconnect. It is the physiology of divorce. It is the physiology of depression is a physiology of burnout.
[Page//00:11:47] Julie Michelson: Wow. I just there's. I could go in 800 directions.
[Page//00:11:52] Anna Cabeca: I've given it all to your
[Page//00:11:53] Julie Michelson: I love it. I know I told you we only have. I'm going to actually back [Page//00:12:00] it all the way up because people come to me all the time and they're afraid and you already touched on it, but I want to kind of really highlight, especially women perimenopausal women, menopausal women.
[Page//00:12:15] And they'll say, you know, oh, or, or women, most of my clients have adrenal challenge. And they'll say, oh, you know, I heard it's really bad to do keto if you're, if you have adrenal challenges.
[Page//00:12:28] Anna Cabeca: You hear that? And it's, the opposite is true. The opposite is true. We have to stabilize our blood sugar. We have to empower our adrenal glands. Now I supplement, I use my mighty maca plus 30 superfoods that are adaptogenic and composition that worked better together than any single ingredient alone.
[Page//00:12:46] And I have done every adrenal protocol out there before this. So. It is game changing. It is game changing. So I do that. And that's part of the alchemizer they a detoxifier, the adrenal [Page//00:13:00] support that's key, and then intermittent fasting guests. You have to do that. You have to, you have to, and that is rest and restoration for your body.
[Page//00:13:09] You have to eat by six or 7:00 PM. We have to do these. These are the pauses in our life where the magic happens. That's why I love the title menu pause, but the positive and menopause, right? It's the pauses in our life where the magic happens. So you're never too old. You're never too young. And especially with auto-immune disease, we have to empower our body to restore itself.
[Page//00:13:32] It's innately intelligent and giving it the right fuel at the right times in the right way. Supports us and in menu, pause, I have two specific, really good plans. Well, three, well, all of them actually,
[Page//00:13:45] Julie Michelson: Of
[Page//00:13:45] Anna Cabeca: they're all really good to support the auto-immune audience, but, you know, I mean, seriously, I have my keto green extreme plan and it is auto-immune paleo protocol, other than protocol, following that with eliminating [Page//00:14:00] the The night shades and peppers, and my favorite tomatoes and eggplants, and I'm a middle Easterner Bible and a newish and to Bouley are two of my favorite favorite things.
[Page//00:14:10] So
[Page//00:14:11] Julie Michelson: it sometimes. You know, once we know I, for years used to say, oh, at least thank goodness I can still eat tomatoes. And it was just cause I had no idea what I was doing. You know, now I know better. I finally
[Page//00:14:23] Anna Cabeca: And you can't do it.
[Page//00:14:25] Julie Michelson: I, you know, I will allow like once or twice a year, but if I, if I eat them a couple days in a row, I can feel it.
[Page//00:14:32] And because I do what I do, I know that means if I eat them once they're causing a little inflammation. So
[Page//00:14:38] Anna Cabeca: know that Sachs I'm that I'm that way for 10 years now with dairy. So none of my recipes have dairy
[Page//00:14:45] Julie Michelson: Yay.
[Page//00:14:46] Anna Cabeca: yes, but none of them it's gluten free. It's been number one on Amazon for ketogenic, gluten, pre, and menopause. And so there's no dairy free category, but if there was, it would be number one there too,
[Page//00:14:57] Julie Michelson: Well, and I
[Page//00:14:58] Anna Cabeca: but it's important.
[Page//00:14:59] Julie Michelson: on that. You [Page//00:15:00] just brought up and I know, you know, I knowing the book and knowing you, and then how nutrient dense your plan is. But I wanna touch on, I call it dirty keto, but you mentioned, you know, that's the other thing people hear keto and they're like, oh, my friend lost 40 pounds eating pork, grinds and cheese.
[Page//00:15:23] And I'm like,
[Page//00:15:23] Anna Cabeca: a stopping point, right. And there's a stop and there's a stopping point. Bravo for getting sugar out of your that's. All I can say is Bravo for breaking up with sugar, but we got to do it in a really healthy way because women, we are different than men. And I, you know, I lecture a lot on this and I show slides and you know, like, okay, if you weren't aware, women are different anatomically we're different.
[Page//00:15:46] Structurally. I mean, there's so many differences and hormonally we're different men have 10 times as much testosterone. That's an anabolic steroids. Right. That builds up your bone. That maintains muscle women. We get into [Page//00:16:00] a catabolic state had in some healthy stress. You know, you've got, again, the sandwich generation with your caregiver, two older parents and younger kids to let home.
[Page//00:16:11] I mean, we really there's a lot of stressors going on in our lives and add that healthy amount of stress into your life. Catabolic, it breaks us down. So we have to do, we have to add in the colonizers, the practices and the foods and the herbs and spices and the, you know, really patterns of behavior that are going to serve us well into the second spring of our live.
[Page//00:16:37] And this is where people doing Quito or doing mans Quito, or, I mean, even for guys, it's not helping.
[Page//00:16:44] Julie Michelson: It's not healthy for anybody.
[Page//00:16:46] Anna Cabeca: Yeah. Yeah. And you have some really good advocates coming around, and this is where the whole, like we've really taken off in the keto community, but this is where you now see people saying, oh, we need minerals.
[Page//00:16:57] Of course you do. You need a minerals, check your urine. [Page//00:17:00] pH you will see that you need minerals when you're doing keto. Add in the middle. Definitely, but having the fiber and the grains, cause every longest living population, every blue zone has a significant amount of plant based food in it and plant diversity.
[Page//00:17:15] And that's got to tell us something that's, that's got to tell us something. And so, and I've definitely seen it in my community and working with, you know, some of the really physiologically challenged women, right. That physicians have given up on they're struggling. They're not getting off the couch and they're like, You know, this was my last hope or, you know what next, or, and, and then I go, wait, I'm feeling better already.
[Page//00:17:41] And just a few, what what's this food is medicine. Wait, hold on. You know, what's the difference here, but it is it's the keto Greenway has been the way that I have found, but there also pauses within it that we need to make.
[Page//00:17:55] Julie Michelson: Oh, I want to talk about those pauses. But I want to what just came up [Page//00:18:00] for me, as you were saying that w is this reminder that I just want to drive home? I'm sure. You know, you said it's like last resort it's I hear, and I know you hear it all the time. I've tried every. Right. People show up and they say, I've tried everything.
[Page//00:18:15] And so for everybody listening, you haven't tried everything yet. You've only tried what you've known to try. And every plan that I put together for people, I am an autoimmune paleo coach. So I'm trained in that as well. Whether it's AIP, wall's protocol, Bredeson. You, there are these overlaps and similarities, and then there are nuances.
[Page//00:18:45] But EV all of them low carb. Keto intermittent fasting loads of greens and just doing one of those things really is not enough. And [Page//00:19:00] so, you know, that's why I'm just so excited and I'm not the best people are always asking me. Well, do you have recipes? And so, you know, I think I may just, the book may just be included in my next program is like, here, here are your recipes.
[Page//00:19:18] Anna Cabeca: Awesome. Yeah.
[Page//00:19:19] Julie Michelson: did it already for us.
[Page//00:19:21] Anna Cabeca: Yeah, I love it. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. And also like the way I cook, it's been fun because I grew up in a house full of chefs and my mom was a baker and it was a dash of this, a dash of that. And it's really a challenge to write recipe. So the biggest thing, like when I think about what are we doing to be key to great healthy fats, High-quality protein, lots of green fiber.
[Page//00:19:45] Right. And think about those three things when you're making a plate and that starts to get this keto green, you know, this keto grade balance. And then with my recipes, I want to make sure I'm detoxifying, estrogen, healthfully. I'm supporting the [Page//00:20:00] gut microbiome. I'm supporting metabolism. I'm shifting art.
[Page//00:20:04] We're refueling from glucose as a primary source to ketones, but yet I have a fifth pod. Which is actually carving up because sometimes we're so restricted for so long. We're also start to struggle again, difficulty sleeping, hitting the stall. And so sometimes we need to, or, you know, not getting the performance in our workouts that we want.
[Page//00:20:24] In fact, one of my, our friends Debbie Potts. Who's really an Olympic athlete and a amazing coach too. And she's like, you know, I've had to, when I carve up before my long workouts or marathon, I do so much better. And it's so true and it's recognizing. What you need when you need it and not getting stuck in one camp, right?
[Page//00:20:47] Recognizing like it till today, I can not do dairy, but recognizing when you need to challenge your body, when you need to change things up and, and it's so true, people get into a way and they're eating the same [Page//00:21:00] thing every day. And it's not healthy either. Even if it's healthy food, it can not be healthy if you're doing it, you know, the same food.
[Page//00:21:08] Rub on chicken salad. If I see one more chicken salad in a menu plan, you know, forget it.
[Page//00:21:13] Julie Michelson: I love that. And it is so important. I, that flexibility, you know, if we think of how did we use to eat, you know, in the summer there's fruit and berries and things, you know, and we weren't eating any of those foods in the winter as we're hunting and gathering. Right. But so keeping that flexibility and like you said, listening to your body, I do think I went through it.
[Page//00:21:40] We, we, as we start to heal and reclaim health, we get really rigid. Right? We don't want to go back to how it was and if this is working, then I'm going to just stay in this little box for ever. And then the, the real freedom becomes when you realize that, no, I can give my body what it needs [Page//00:22:00] when it needs it.
[Page//00:22:01] Anna Cabeca: Yeah.
[Page//00:22:03] Julie Michelson: I love that.
[Page//00:22:04] Anna Cabeca: Yep for sure. And I think that's, that's the, that's the true awareness. Then when we're out of the brain fog, we're better able to make those choices. And I know definitely in the autoimmune community, I energy and healing metabolism, and re like rebuilding resilience is critical. And this is where, you know, this is where diversity, this is where change and variety can really.
[Page//00:22:30] Julie Michelson: Amazing advice. I'm going to ask a really silly question, but I, I, I, it's also a really important question because. The, you know, we're talking about women, right? And we're talking about menopause, we're talking about hormones and, and supporting us through our better half in life. I, how about this diet?
[Page//00:22:52] You know, I, if you're cooking and you're cooking for your loved ones and some of them happen to be male okay. For them to eat this way.
[Page//00:22:59] Anna Cabeca: [Page//00:23:00] Absolutely. Absolutely. We have them doing really, really well and they get results very quickly. I've got to, I've got to update my Instagram.
[Page//00:23:08] Julie Michelson: not fair. Yeah.
[Page//00:23:09] Anna Cabeca: know it's almost not fair. We have, you know, Dr. Angela achy out of north Florida, integrative medicine, she's yelled trained. She created helped with the integrative medicine program.
[Page//00:23:20] She's an amazing one of the world's leading physicians and concierge physicians. And so she's been using my keto green 16, my second book in her group, medical visits. So she incorporated group medical visits where they get their. Labs and they get their blood pressures and weights, and then they do Kita green, 16, and they follow up and she's reduced.
[Page//00:23:43] And one, one gentleman in 16 days, he reduced his blood pressure medicine. That was like, it was just going up and up and up. He reduced his blood pressure medicine. He lost, oh my gosh. Like I forget how much, but over 20 pounds it was crazy. In [Page//00:24:00] 16 days and he was feeling better, more energetic once she reduced his blood pressure medicine.
[Page//00:24:05] Cause he came in, this was at the start of COVID. We were doing this and, and he called her, he was like, I'm feeling kind of I'm feeling kind of weak sluggish, you know, what's going on. And he was like, let me do COVID giveaway. We do a COVID swab. She was one of the first clinics that drive through CLA COVID swabbing.
[Page//00:24:23] And she checked his blood pressure. It's like, oh, we got to reduce your blood pressure medicine. It's really low. And it was from decreasing the inflammatory foods. I mean, he's doing amazing. Amazing. Now we've seen hemoglobin A1C drop in two months, like significantly, significantly. It's beautiful.
[Page//00:24:41] Julie Michelson: And it it's over and over and over again. I have a client in her sixties, so female. Post-menopausal she from eating this way and keeping a gratitude journal and managing her, you know, it's a, it's a whole lifestyle. It's not just diet, but [Page//00:25:00] the diet is so huge. And she came in and, and I know she thought I was crazy when I said, you know, these are the things that are going to improve.
[Page//00:25:08] You can do, oh, no, I've been a yo-yo diet or my whole life. I won't be able to, I won't be able to do it. I, if I hear one more time, I am a lifetime member at weight Watchers. I'm like, okay, you shouldn't have to be a lifetime member of any kind of eating plan. She's off two blood pressure medications. She's off blood sugar medications went from type two diabetic to not even pre-diabetic her A1C actually I think is lower than mine, which is, I mean, mine's good.
[Page//00:25:40] But amazing. Remarkable. And yeah, weight came off energy got better. She used to not be able to put the groceries away when she got home from the store, because she'd be too exhausted from going to the store. Now she is doing Pilates and water aerobics and riding her butt. I mean, she's, I'm like, you're like the [Page//00:26:00] Energizer bunny.
[Page//00:26:01] It is on believable.
[Page//00:26:03] Anna Cabeca: it is possible for everyone listing and what really makes a difference when having a coach when having a coach and community around you Jolie. So being able to work with you and that. Gift that you give your clients, is that, is that accountability and is that encouragement and is that direction?
[Page//00:26:20] Look, I know there's many wrong paths. We can go down, but let me, let me guide your hand down the right one.
[Page//00:26:26] Julie Michelson: Yeah. I love partnering with people. It makes me really excited. And I always say, now she's now sharing all, you know, anytime she encounters a friend, who's, you know, she's like, let me tell you what I've been doing. You know, she's sharing and that's that ripple effect. It's, it's a beautiful thing. It
[Page//00:26:44] Anna Cabeca: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[Page//00:26:47] Julie Michelson: So I just wanted to make sure everybody knew I am very against double cooking when you're improving your health. And so
[Page//00:26:56] Anna Cabeca: Men can do it too. Exactly. And they do amazing with it. [Page//00:27:00] And in fact we had one in my girlfriend doctor club. We had a call the other day and that was the question. Like my husband won't eat this we'll need that, you know, this time the other thing. And I'm like, well, look, there's the carnivore planning here.
[Page//00:27:13] And pretty much guys love carnivore plans and you know, and, and her son too, I said, also talk with them. About doing this with you, that you need the support and it's good for them. And for six days we can do it together. But to, to like really Ask for and demand support. This will really make me happy.
[Page//00:27:34] And a guy in your life wants you to be happy. This will make me happy. I know giving me, like you can add in, it'll make me friskier, you know, more receptive, all this good stuff. And, and you want him to come along too, because there's the fat side dad syndrome that is it's true. And I'm seeing it. You go to any kid's soccer game, you can look around and it's really sad.
[Page//00:27:58] And this is really good [Page//00:28:00] in my Instagram. There's a little interview with Rolando Blackman, you know, all American Mavericks player, just, you know, top of the top of the field, right. A very dedicated athlete. He's in his sixties now. And he's like, look, you know, guys, it starts with you. And I want every man to hear that.
[Page//00:28:18] Because in order for his wife or any, you know, person in your life to feel supported, you really, really does that encouragement matters. Like I see you doing this and you know, I'm with you, let me help you along. What can I do? What meal can I prepare for your all clean dishes or whatever it may be, but like,
[Page//00:28:38] Julie Michelson: I tell my guy
[Page//00:28:39] Anna Cabeca: the whole family
[Page//00:28:40] Julie Michelson: thing in the world is that when he cleans the dishes,
[Page//00:28:43] Anna Cabeca: that's porn
[Page//00:28:44] Julie Michelson: when she always does, by the way, but I have to keep reinforcing
[Page//00:28:47] Anna Cabeca: Oh, my God. Absolutely. I always joke. I say that's corn for women.
[Page//00:28:52] Julie Michelson: It is it totally is. He said he had read that in a book in college and I'm like, well, it is true. It's [Page//00:29:00] accurate. I love that.
[Page//00:29:02] And it, and then it's a gift for the whole family, you know? And that's the thing you, you may ask your guy for support.
[Page//00:29:10] Anna Cabeca: Well, I I've gone on strike. I got on strike at my house. I did Easter Sunday. I went on strike because Easter Sunday I've been like 40 days, no alcohol, mostly 98%. And I made this great from my book, my roast leg of lamb and my brussel sprouts. And I just made like a beautiful, a beautiful dinner.
[Page//00:29:33] Right. And I'd been cooking and I was excited. Shop, cooked everything. And I called everyone. I said, come make your plates and let's go sit and eat at the table. And one of my youngest daughter, she's like, oh, I'm not hungry. Cause she was snacking on the security. She said, I'm not hungry. I made my plate and I went out and I ate by myself until everyone made their plates and join me.
[Page//00:29:59] [Page//00:30:00] And I'd been on, I've been on strike. I said, number one, I'm not, I'm not making two different meals. I'm not having, you know, if there's something that comes into my house, that's not key to green. I'm throwing it away. I'm towing the line for me and I'm going to tow it for you. And it's taken me a while to get to this.
[Page//00:30:15] Cause I'm the single mom guilt ridden syndrome.
[Page//00:30:19] Julie Michelson: years.
[Page//00:30:21] Anna Cabeca: Yeah. So you know what I'm talking about? And it's like, oh, well I'll just let her have it, this one. So I'll just,
[Page//00:30:25] Julie Michelson: used to have a gluten bin in our pantry because my. Oldest son was diagnosed with celiac. And then I went gluten-free to support him still not knowing I too was celiac, but just looking back and thinking, oh, I thought I was being a nice mom. Like, you know, oh, you could have the Oreos, we're going to keep them in this bin.
[Page//00:30:47] What was I feeding
[Page//00:30:48] Anna Cabeca: What was I thinking?
[Page//00:30:49] Julie Michelson: Yeah. Yeah. And I've had
[Page//00:30:52] Anna Cabeca: These strong.
[Page//00:30:52] Julie Michelson: too. Why am I letting my kids eat that junk? And, and I'm eating good food. That's not food. That's not.
[Page//00:30:59] Anna Cabeca: And [Page//00:31:00] look, what's happening in our schools. Like my kids, we would pack for their lunches, but I, when daughter was in public school, she, I went to have lunch with them a few times with her a few times. And at the lunch table, six out of 18 kids got up to go get their. Behavior medicine, you know, there, you know, like they're good medicine at lunch.
[Page//00:31:22] And I looked and I said, what are they eating? I mean, they had like the corn dog, the cupcake, the, you know, and what happens for breakfast, they get cereal. And so what do they need? They need a snack. You know, that's snacking ritual that we're doing in school is because the high and low blood sugars. So if you just do eggs and bacon in the morning with some greens, there'll be right.
[Page//00:31:45] They'll be great.
[Page//00:31:47] Julie Michelson: Yeah.
[Page//00:31:47] Anna Cabeca: then, and then for lunch,
[Page//00:31:49] Julie Michelson: and set.
[Page//00:31:50] Anna Cabeca: exactly. They can sit and think and you know, we have, so my, my kids love sushi. They love it. Mommy, you [Page//00:32:00] know, they love these things. And so why, why bring in the other stuff anyway? No, it's, it's tough to tow that line. We think we're being nice and we're actually doing harm.
[Page//00:32:09] Julie Michelson: Yeah now. Well, and once your mind shifts and you really know, I mean, you can't, I would, I couldn't give anybody. I love that so-called food. Cause it's not really food.
[Page//00:32:21] Anna Cabeca: And it's so hard, especially a couple. Yeah, yeah,
[Page//00:32:23] Julie Michelson: Yeah.
[Page//00:32:24] Anna Cabeca: yeah. I mean, I need some good accountability and coaching. Julia, I'll call you the
[Page//00:32:28] Julie Michelson: All right. Yeah,
[Page//00:32:29] Anna Cabeca: All right.
[Page//00:32:30] Julie Michelson: shoot me a text. I'm here.
[Page//00:32:32] Anna Cabeca: Yeah. Thank you.
[Page//00:32:34] Julie Michelson: So. Step one. I literally there's. I cannot encourage everybody enough to, to get this book, to get all of your books really. But this one is, is so exciting to me. I did want to ask you one other question. You talk about checking pH. Do you have a recommendation for people that are like, I don't know how to do that.
[Page//00:32:59] I don't [Page//00:33:00] know where to get strips. What w what where do they start?
[Page//00:33:03] Anna Cabeca: I created my own strips that have ketone and pH on single strip because there I was a single mom peeing on two different strips. I was like, oh my God. Can't do that. So I created my own. So it's Quito, P H strips. You can get them on Amazon. It's something like $13. There's a hundred strips in there, but there's 50 in a separate aluminum because once you open that container moisture, Air gets in.
[Page//00:33:27] I mean, at doctor's offices, we go through a container a week, but in this case, you know, you're going to probably have that container for over a month. So keep that other 50 in the aluminum foil, separate, and then just, just pee on the. Super easy. It checks your pH checks, your ketones. You want to get into Bo.
[Page//00:33:45] Now, if you are, have been in ketosis for a term without having a feast day or a carb-up day or something like that, it may not show on your urine test strips, but you can just do a quick ketone blood meter [Page//00:34:00] test or breath test. There's other ways, certainly that are the gold standards, but for quick and easy and regular monitoring, Quito pH.
[Page//00:34:10] Julie Michelson: I love
[Page//00:34:10] Anna Cabeca: instructions that I have videos and not actually peeing on a strip, but everything
[Page//00:34:16] Julie Michelson: Thank you for not sharing that with us.
[Page//00:34:20] Anna Cabeca: you are welcome.
[Page//00:34:21] Julie Michelson: love that I tell my clients, you know, cause I'm always talking poop with my clients and, and I'm like, you can be as descriptive as you want and do not send me pictures. I do not want to see it.
[Page//00:34:33] Anna Cabeca: Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
[Page//00:34:34] Julie Michelson: we, we all can figure out how to pee on a stick. It's it's really not hard a strip.
[Page//00:34:40] So, so well thought out, so detail oriented you are. I love the, you know, oh, we're going to keep these 50 strips fresh while you work your way through. Container.
[Page//00:34:52] Anna Cabeca: yeah. Yeah.
[Page//00:34:54] Julie Michelson: Fantastic. So what is one step I already kind of gave them [Page//00:35:00] one, but one step that listeners can take immediately today right now to start to improve.
[Page//00:35:06] Anna Cabeca: Make sure you're getting enough greens and the low carbohydrate greens, the alkalinizes the herbs spices. How are you seasoning your food? Like consider that as part of your food as medicine.
[Page//00:35:18] Julie Michelson: I love that. That's a beautiful thing. I think so many people don't use herbs and spices intentionally. So that is amazing advice. There you go guys. And then I'm going to throw out, really get seriously, get the book or do it.
[Page//00:35:32] Anna Cabeca: Yeah, you guys will love the book and get it. Get a couple copies, get it for friends. We have web person grace and she bought eight bucks. She's like, I'm making sure. Everyone, no one has an excuse. We're going to do this together. When you bring along your friends and your friends hold you accountable, like once, always stronger than you are, and you're always stronger than someone else.
[Page//00:35:51] So doing that together really improves, improves compatibility and results for all of you. And then if you've got some naysayers in [Page//00:36:00] your group and some cantankerous people are very negative. Well, maybe those are. People you have to pause. And one of my chapters
[Page//00:36:07] Julie Michelson: I love
[Page//00:36:08] Anna Cabeca: I say, pausing, the things that no longer serve you.
[Page//00:36:11] And sometimes it's putting those hard boundaries around some people in your life too, that are defeating you, that are keeping you unwell. And I love the expression. You can never get healthy in an environment that made you sick. So pay close attention to what's no longer serving. And as you physiologically stronger as you will be with the keto Greenway, as you become physiologically stronger, you're mentally stronger and you have more of the gumption to say what's really on your mind.
[Page//00:36:42] And to create those from lines. And like I did finally going on strike with my family.
[Page//00:36:47] Julie Michelson: I love that.
[Page//00:36:48] Anna Cabeca: still on strike.
[Page//00:36:49] Julie Michelson: You're still on strike. Hey, you know, we got to create the change we need. And I love, you know, you, you can't keep doing what got you, [Page//00:37:00] sick and get well, like it just doesn't work. So I love that guys pick up the book and check out the pauses because it is, it is. Truly life changing. I, and I want to have you back on, because I, I, we didn't even get to talk about like how sexy the second half of life can be.
[Page//00:37:20] And, and
[Page//00:37:21] Anna Cabeca: Oh, my gosh. Oh yeah. That's mine. That's my, that's my specialty sexual health, sorry. Sexual health and sexual medicine. That is my dad. I love talking about that because there's no limitation. There's
[Page//00:37:34] Julie Michelson: There's not you know, for those of you that are, that are listening on audio, or this is two, two ladies in their fifties chatting. So we would love to have you back on to talk about that. That would be a lot of fun.
[Page//00:37:48] Anna Cabeca: Definitely, definitely in the meantime you know, definitely check out my website at Dr. yana.com. A lot of good information on that solutions that I created because there were none of my doctors back to help me.
[Page//00:37:59] Julie Michelson: Which is [Page//00:38:00] amazing. And that is how functional medicine just keeps getting better and better is, you know, stock doctors needing to fix themselves. Thank goodness for the rest of us. So the links will be in the show notes. You just shoot.
[Page//00:38:14] Anna Cabeca: and challenges from our patients. Like when you say to your doctor, look, this isn't working. Bye help me find a different way or keep asking. And then when you do find that way, go back and share it with your doctor, say, Hey, like I I've had clients giving my first book, the hormone fix to their doctors and now many paws to their doctors.
[Page//00:38:32] And again, position at a, you know, one of the world's best position, giving running group programs with keto green, 16 y'all and be like, that is amazing stuff. Like when you know that it changes your life, spread the word. Spread the word we, as, as women, we have so much strength with our voice. With our pocket box.
[Page//00:38:53] We have so much influence and way back in night in 2000, a patient gave me Dr. Christina Northrup's book. [Page//00:39:00] Women's bodies. Women's wisdom. I mean, I didn't have time to read it page by page, but I, I flipped through and I read sections and I was like, huh, it just planted a seed of curiosity to open my mind and ask more.
[Page//00:39:12] Julie Michelson: Well, and those are the kinds of physicians that if you don't have a physician who is grateful for, you know, the opportunity to continue to learn from colleagues and others in the field, it made me really sad. I was super excited the day that my rheumatologists fired me because I no longer had any auto-immune symptoms, not once did he asked me what I had.
[Page//00:39:38] Not once he was not interested and,
[Page//00:39:42] Anna Cabeca: Oh, you planted a seed, Julie, you planted a seed and he may be interested. Now you may have
[Page//00:39:47] Julie Michelson: he may be,
[Page//00:39:49] Anna Cabeca: and it, and I think that's the key, like show up, let them know, communicate with us as physicians. I'm constantly learning. I mean, seriously,
[Page//00:39:58] Julie Michelson: we all
[Page//00:39:59] Anna Cabeca: humble, [Page//00:40:00] but you know, I'm constantly, I'm constantly learning and And I appreciate that.
[Page//00:40:04] And, you know, we spend a lot of money as positions, hundreds of thousands of dollars and prime years of our lives. And we think, you know, we should have all the tools and we absolutely should, but we don't, we don't.
[Page//00:40:17] Julie Michelson: Guys share these books. Dr. Anna, thank you so much for joining us today. All the links are going to be in the show notes. Guys, links to the book. I know you have gifts for people who buy the book there, you have extra assets for them. Yeah. So.
[Page//00:40:36] Anna Cabeca: At Dr. anna.com like you go to that asset link. It's. If you go to my book page, you'll get a link to where to go, to get the bonuses.
[Page//00:40:43] Julie Michelson: Perfect. And the link to the book will be in the show notes as well. I so appreciate you taking the time to, to share this with us today.
[Page//00:40:53] Anna Cabeca: Thank you. Thanks for having me.
[Page//00:40:55] Julie Michelson: For everyone listening. Remember you can get the show notes and transcripts by visiting [Page//00:41:00] inspired living.show. I hope you had a great time and enjoy this episode as much as I did! See you next week.
[Page//00:01:03] We are talking food as medicine and how the keto green lifestyle supports everyone's health, no matter your age, gender, or health challenges. And our conversation is packed with tips from her new book, Menupause.
[Page//00:01:18] Dr Ana, welcome to the podcast.
[Page//00:01:21] Anna Cabeca: It's great to be here with you, Julie. Thanks for having.
[Page//00:01:24] Julie Michelson: I am so excited to dive into your incredible new book. But I always love to start with stories because most of us didn't decide to get into functional medicine when we were toddlers. So I would love for you to share a little bit of your journey and how did you get to be doing what you're doing?
[Page//00:01:46] Anna Cabeca: Yeah. So really it's that, you know, I think we see this with a lot of functional medicine practitioners and it is our mess becomes our message. Our mess becomes our message. And I think this is, this [Page//00:02:00] is part of the story, right? I, when I. Again, I saw food as medicine because my mom, I grew up in a home where my mom was diabetic and she underwent her first heart surgery at 52 for cardiac bypass.
[Page//00:02:14] And I was 16 at the time. And I recognized that the research that they were basing her care on was done on men. And so that made me an advocate for women's health. And then my mom died 16, 17, 15 years later at the young age. 67. And and at that point I was arrested in an Emory and I was like, well, you know, how can this happen?
[Page//00:02:36] What, what did we miss? And what we missed is what I call the devil's triad, hormone, imbalance, inflammation, and adrenal dysfunction. Those I call that the Pitchfork of the devil and, and I continue to learn and be curious and ask questions. And then my youngest daughter and my kids, it's never just one thing at least, you know, gosh, there's so many stories, little seeds, a little [Page//00:03:00] steps, little pebbles on the road, little breadcrumbs, so to speak.
[Page//00:03:03] But my young, my first born daughter, Amanda, when she was five or six, it was, you know, I was told she was attention deficit. She, you know, had Trump, you know, a trouble being still. And I remember I was breastfeeding in the back of a class with my son and I was doing a hormone therapy class. And this is when you ask question God answers.
[Page//00:03:23] Right. And a beautiful Dr. Gustafson who's since passed away was sitting next to me. I'm like, oh my God, you mind if I breastfeed the symphony? It just like, oh no. And we started talking and and she told me it's like address the underlying issues. That's affecting your daughter. Versus medicating and I'm, you know, Western trained, you know, love the love of the field of medicine.
[Page//00:03:49] And, you know, let's get to the quickest solution as, as quick as possible. And, and it was really fascinating. And she spoke in a language that I knew because I was a chemist before I went [Page//00:04:00] to med school and actually worked in drug metabolism department for why a therapist, one of the. Big pharmaceutical manufacturers.
[Page//00:04:07] And so I started, I understood what she was talking about with testing organic acids, looking at the Krebs cycle, looking at the cellular function. If we can make changes there, we can improve overall health. And there's so much more than I went into early menopause. And I had to, I went on a journey to reverse that and so many little pieces of the puzzle till today I am at 55 years old.
[Page//00:04:32] Still, I am still learning and very humbled by all I, all I have yet to learn.
[Page//00:04:40] Julie Michelson: Well, and I know the contribution you make to, to everybody and to women's health. And so one of the reasons I'm so excited to have you on today, other than that, I always just love talking to you and love seeing your radiant smile. But I know for everybody listening, you [Page//00:05:00] know, you, you just. I love that the devil's triad or the Pitchfork of the devil.
[Page//00:05:07] I got goosebumps when you were talking about it. Cause I'm like, okay, who's listening. That, that doesn't fit. Right. As women, as women with auto-immunity, you know, the dealing with the hormones and the inflammation and the so it's why I am so excited to continue our conversation. And so you mentioned one of those pieces was your journey with early menopause and reversing.
[Page//00:05:33] Let's dig in. Let's talk about you have this amazing new book out menu. Pause. Let's talk about how I love it. I love the play on words, but I, I wanna really get into. Because people don't talk about it. You know, what is this connection between diet and, and hormones and menopause? You know, what, what would a [Page//00:06:00] cookbook for menopause?
[Page//00:06:01] Like where does that even come from?
[Page//00:06:03] Anna Cabeca: Right, right. Like food as medicine. What are you kidding? You mean it's not just estrogen. I know. Like, what is that about? But it is the first medicine. It is the first medicine. It is the first right step that we have to take in healing. Our body. It is to fuel it. Like we wouldn't be able to move our car without fuel.
[Page//00:06:24] We cannot, if we put the wrong fuel in it, it's not going to respond well and saying. Us and food is medicine. This is the first medicine. And in menopause, it's not, you just like power through suffer. Your doctor's not helping you. Well, let's change things up because your body's using fuel in a different way.
[Page//00:06:44] What, wait, hold on. Stop the presses. What do you mean? Certainly didn't learn that in med school. Wait, where's the prescription for that?
[Page//00:06:53] Julie Michelson: It's in your kitchen.
[Page//00:06:55] Anna Cabeca: That's in your kitchen, it's in your kitchen. And one of the things that I recognize, I would [Page//00:07:00] say I you know, affectionately call my second menopause at age 48. When I was spiraling down. Full-blown peri-menopause hot flashes, mood swings, difficulty sleeping P I also had full blown PTSD. So, you know, under the surface, you know, exhibiting all the controls I could being the workaholic until I couldn't anymore and really burning out in that downward spiral.
[Page//00:07:22] And so I, it was, it was that, that journey that, that really humbled me. And that's where I found what I call the Quito green way of living that is by design optimum from our forties onward. And so the brain fog was certainly very troublesome, but what was more troublesome was the weight gain without doing anything different.
[Page//00:07:45] That's right. When my patients used to come in and say, Dr. Yana, I'm gaining 5, 10, 20 pounds without doing anything different. I'd be like, sure. You're not sure you're
[Page//00:07:54] Julie Michelson: Yeah. You're not sneak at snack. Yeah.
[Page//00:07:57] Anna Cabeca: Like, let me see what's in your purse. And I was [Page//00:08:00] totally humbled. I gained 20 pounds without doing anything different. And that was eye-opening.
[Page//00:08:05] And so yeah, so those were, I mean, that's just part of, that's been part of the journey. And so that led me into the keto green way, like restricting carbs, getting into ketosis. And my oldest daughter has seizures, so I'm very familiar with a ketogenic diet and and the research on it. And my patients low carb restriction in my candida patients.
[Page//00:08:25] And I've been very familiar with it, but I started not feeling well. And it occurred to me, women in perimenopause and menopause. When they, when I would put them on this type of restriction, they say, Dr. Ana, I feel like I'm hitting a wall. I'm not feeling good. You know, cloudy. I'm not really struggling here.
[Page//00:08:42] And that was happening to me. So I asked the question why, so I would say like, you know, Anna, why are you feeling this way? I mean, what's going on? Let's let's test, not guess. And one of the simple tests was checking my urine pH, and that was an aha moment for me. Because your MPH is a [Page//00:09:00] biomarker that's, even in my opinion, more important or as important as your weight on the scale as your blood pressure as your heart rate.
[Page//00:09:07] So your urine pH is telling you how you're interacting with your environment, nutrition and external stress. Yeah. And so my urine pH was as acidic as a urine pH paper read. So who knows how acidic I was at that point, but that said no wonder, you're feeling inflamed. No wonder you're foggy. Your body is going to be robbing, you know, stealing from your muscles and bones to keep your.
[Page//00:09:32] Balance. Right. And so that was on a hot moment. So I started adding the alkalinizes and what I noticed was as I added beet greens and kale soup and, you know, extra herbs and spices increasing my mighty maca plus to 2, 3, 4 scoops a day. And and I did all that. And yet I noticed to the mornings, I would do gratitude, journaling or walk on the beach.
[Page//00:09:55] I was more alkali. My urine pH was more alkaline all [Page//00:10:00] day.
[Page//00:10:00] Julie Michelson: Okay. Wait, say that again, because this is, that are, we are so miraculous and this is the piece I have the hardest time getting people to hear, but you just gave us like a scientific way. So it is, yes. What you're eating is so important, but.
[Page//00:10:20] Anna Cabeca: What's your thinking when you're eating, who you're eating with, how you bless the meal before you eat. All of that has an effect. Cortisol is the most acidifying hormone. It increases hydrogen ion secretion across the renal tubules, creating an acidic urinary pH cortisol. Does. Apparently oxytocin does the opposite.
[Page//00:10:42] Does the opposite. So the most alkalinizing hormone, it is the most life-giving longevity hormone. Well, not oxytocin. We're not giving birth, right? We need oxytocin. If we are not, if we're not producing enough, our uterus isn't responding. Quick enough. We add Pitocin as an obstetrician. I would inject Pitocin into an [Page//00:11:00] individual that's oxytocin to crease that contraction and what we feel when the baby's born is that intense bonding.
[Page//00:11:07] Then I'm going to see it so beautifully as the new grandma. Certainly I see it. I also see it in my daughter and her baby. I mean, there's that oxytocin bond, like she's never experienced in her life, right. That, that incredible imprinting that's happening. And that is survival. That is the best of the best, right?
[Page//00:11:26] That is the best of the best. And, and so that was all part of all part of my journey and realizing too where my PTSD was coming in. That was cortisol dominance and it creates oxytocin deficiency and it creates a disconnect. It is the physiology of divorce. It is the physiology of depression is a physiology of burnout.
[Page//00:11:47] Julie Michelson: Wow. I just there's. I could go in 800 directions.
[Page//00:11:52] Anna Cabeca: I've given it all to your
[Page//00:11:53] Julie Michelson: I love it. I know I told you we only have. I'm going to actually back [Page//00:12:00] it all the way up because people come to me all the time and they're afraid and you already touched on it, but I want to kind of really highlight, especially women perimenopausal women, menopausal women.
[Page//00:12:15] And they'll say, you know, oh, or, or women, most of my clients have adrenal challenge. And they'll say, oh, you know, I heard it's really bad to do keto if you're, if you have adrenal challenges.
[Page//00:12:28] Anna Cabeca: You hear that? And it's, the opposite is true. The opposite is true. We have to stabilize our blood sugar. We have to empower our adrenal glands. Now I supplement, I use my mighty maca plus 30 superfoods that are adaptogenic and composition that worked better together than any single ingredient alone.
[Page//00:12:46] And I have done every adrenal protocol out there before this. So. It is game changing. It is game changing. So I do that. And that's part of the alchemizer they a detoxifier, the adrenal [Page//00:13:00] support that's key, and then intermittent fasting guests. You have to do that. You have to, you have to, and that is rest and restoration for your body.
[Page//00:13:09] You have to eat by six or 7:00 PM. We have to do these. These are the pauses in our life where the magic happens. That's why I love the title menu pause, but the positive and menopause, right? It's the pauses in our life where the magic happens. So you're never too old. You're never too young. And especially with auto-immune disease, we have to empower our body to restore itself.
[Page//00:13:32] It's innately intelligent and giving it the right fuel at the right times in the right way. Supports us and in menu, pause, I have two specific, really good plans. Well, three, well, all of them actually,
[Page//00:13:45] Julie Michelson: Of
[Page//00:13:45] Anna Cabeca: they're all really good to support the auto-immune audience, but, you know, I mean, seriously, I have my keto green extreme plan and it is auto-immune paleo protocol, other than protocol, following that with eliminating [Page//00:14:00] the The night shades and peppers, and my favorite tomatoes and eggplants, and I'm a middle Easterner Bible and a newish and to Bouley are two of my favorite favorite things.
[Page//00:14:10] So
[Page//00:14:11] Julie Michelson: it sometimes. You know, once we know I, for years used to say, oh, at least thank goodness I can still eat tomatoes. And it was just cause I had no idea what I was doing. You know, now I know better. I finally
[Page//00:14:23] Anna Cabeca: And you can't do it.
[Page//00:14:25] Julie Michelson: I, you know, I will allow like once or twice a year, but if I, if I eat them a couple days in a row, I can feel it.
[Page//00:14:32] And because I do what I do, I know that means if I eat them once they're causing a little inflammation. So
[Page//00:14:38] Anna Cabeca: know that Sachs I'm that I'm that way for 10 years now with dairy. So none of my recipes have dairy
[Page//00:14:45] Julie Michelson: Yay.
[Page//00:14:46] Anna Cabeca: yes, but none of them it's gluten free. It's been number one on Amazon for ketogenic, gluten, pre, and menopause. And so there's no dairy free category, but if there was, it would be number one there too,
[Page//00:14:57] Julie Michelson: Well, and I
[Page//00:14:58] Anna Cabeca: but it's important.
[Page//00:14:59] Julie Michelson: on that. You [Page//00:15:00] just brought up and I know, you know, I knowing the book and knowing you, and then how nutrient dense your plan is. But I wanna touch on, I call it dirty keto, but you mentioned, you know, that's the other thing people hear keto and they're like, oh, my friend lost 40 pounds eating pork, grinds and cheese.
[Page//00:15:23] And I'm like,
[Page//00:15:23] Anna Cabeca: a stopping point, right. And there's a stop and there's a stopping point. Bravo for getting sugar out of your that's. All I can say is Bravo for breaking up with sugar, but we got to do it in a really healthy way because women, we are different than men. And I, you know, I lecture a lot on this and I show slides and you know, like, okay, if you weren't aware, women are different anatomically we're different.
[Page//00:15:46] Structurally. I mean, there's so many differences and hormonally we're different men have 10 times as much testosterone. That's an anabolic steroids. Right. That builds up your bone. That maintains muscle women. We get into [Page//00:16:00] a catabolic state had in some healthy stress. You know, you've got, again, the sandwich generation with your caregiver, two older parents and younger kids to let home.
[Page//00:16:11] I mean, we really there's a lot of stressors going on in our lives and add that healthy amount of stress into your life. Catabolic, it breaks us down. So we have to do, we have to add in the colonizers, the practices and the foods and the herbs and spices and the, you know, really patterns of behavior that are going to serve us well into the second spring of our live.
[Page//00:16:37] And this is where people doing Quito or doing mans Quito, or, I mean, even for guys, it's not helping.
[Page//00:16:44] Julie Michelson: It's not healthy for anybody.
[Page//00:16:46] Anna Cabeca: Yeah. Yeah. And you have some really good advocates coming around, and this is where the whole, like we've really taken off in the keto community, but this is where you now see people saying, oh, we need minerals.
[Page//00:16:57] Of course you do. You need a minerals, check your urine. [Page//00:17:00] pH you will see that you need minerals when you're doing keto. Add in the middle. Definitely, but having the fiber and the grains, cause every longest living population, every blue zone has a significant amount of plant based food in it and plant diversity.
[Page//00:17:15] And that's got to tell us something that's, that's got to tell us something. And so, and I've definitely seen it in my community and working with, you know, some of the really physiologically challenged women, right. That physicians have given up on they're struggling. They're not getting off the couch and they're like, You know, this was my last hope or, you know what next, or, and, and then I go, wait, I'm feeling better already.
[Page//00:17:41] And just a few, what what's this food is medicine. Wait, hold on. You know, what's the difference here, but it is it's the keto Greenway has been the way that I have found, but there also pauses within it that we need to make.
[Page//00:17:55] Julie Michelson: Oh, I want to talk about those pauses. But I want to what just came up [Page//00:18:00] for me, as you were saying that w is this reminder that I just want to drive home? I'm sure. You know, you said it's like last resort it's I hear, and I know you hear it all the time. I've tried every. Right. People show up and they say, I've tried everything.
[Page//00:18:15] And so for everybody listening, you haven't tried everything yet. You've only tried what you've known to try. And every plan that I put together for people, I am an autoimmune paleo coach. So I'm trained in that as well. Whether it's AIP, wall's protocol, Bredeson. You, there are these overlaps and similarities, and then there are nuances.
[Page//00:18:45] But EV all of them low carb. Keto intermittent fasting loads of greens and just doing one of those things really is not enough. And [Page//00:19:00] so, you know, that's why I'm just so excited and I'm not the best people are always asking me. Well, do you have recipes? And so, you know, I think I may just, the book may just be included in my next program is like, here, here are your recipes.
[Page//00:19:18] Anna Cabeca: Awesome. Yeah.
[Page//00:19:19] Julie Michelson: did it already for us.
[Page//00:19:21] Anna Cabeca: Yeah, I love it. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. And also like the way I cook, it's been fun because I grew up in a house full of chefs and my mom was a baker and it was a dash of this, a dash of that. And it's really a challenge to write recipe. So the biggest thing, like when I think about what are we doing to be key to great healthy fats, High-quality protein, lots of green fiber.
[Page//00:19:45] Right. And think about those three things when you're making a plate and that starts to get this keto green, you know, this keto grade balance. And then with my recipes, I want to make sure I'm detoxifying, estrogen, healthfully. I'm supporting the [Page//00:20:00] gut microbiome. I'm supporting metabolism. I'm shifting art.
[Page//00:20:04] We're refueling from glucose as a primary source to ketones, but yet I have a fifth pod. Which is actually carving up because sometimes we're so restricted for so long. We're also start to struggle again, difficulty sleeping, hitting the stall. And so sometimes we need to, or, you know, not getting the performance in our workouts that we want.
[Page//00:20:24] In fact, one of my, our friends Debbie Potts. Who's really an Olympic athlete and a amazing coach too. And she's like, you know, I've had to, when I carve up before my long workouts or marathon, I do so much better. And it's so true and it's recognizing. What you need when you need it and not getting stuck in one camp, right?
[Page//00:20:47] Recognizing like it till today, I can not do dairy, but recognizing when you need to challenge your body, when you need to change things up and, and it's so true, people get into a way and they're eating the same [Page//00:21:00] thing every day. And it's not healthy either. Even if it's healthy food, it can not be healthy if you're doing it, you know, the same food.
[Page//00:21:08] Rub on chicken salad. If I see one more chicken salad in a menu plan, you know, forget it.
[Page//00:21:13] Julie Michelson: I love that. And it is so important. I, that flexibility, you know, if we think of how did we use to eat, you know, in the summer there's fruit and berries and things, you know, and we weren't eating any of those foods in the winter as we're hunting and gathering. Right. But so keeping that flexibility and like you said, listening to your body, I do think I went through it.
[Page//00:21:40] We, we, as we start to heal and reclaim health, we get really rigid. Right? We don't want to go back to how it was and if this is working, then I'm going to just stay in this little box for ever. And then the, the real freedom becomes when you realize that, no, I can give my body what it needs [Page//00:22:00] when it needs it.
[Page//00:22:01] Anna Cabeca: Yeah.
[Page//00:22:03] Julie Michelson: I love that.
[Page//00:22:04] Anna Cabeca: Yep for sure. And I think that's, that's the, that's the true awareness. Then when we're out of the brain fog, we're better able to make those choices. And I know definitely in the autoimmune community, I energy and healing metabolism, and re like rebuilding resilience is critical. And this is where, you know, this is where diversity, this is where change and variety can really.
[Page//00:22:30] Julie Michelson: Amazing advice. I'm going to ask a really silly question, but I, I, I, it's also a really important question because. The, you know, we're talking about women, right? And we're talking about menopause, we're talking about hormones and, and supporting us through our better half in life. I, how about this diet?
[Page//00:22:52] You know, I, if you're cooking and you're cooking for your loved ones and some of them happen to be male okay. For them to eat this way.
[Page//00:22:59] Anna Cabeca: [Page//00:23:00] Absolutely. Absolutely. We have them doing really, really well and they get results very quickly. I've got to, I've got to update my Instagram.
[Page//00:23:08] Julie Michelson: not fair. Yeah.
[Page//00:23:09] Anna Cabeca: know it's almost not fair. We have, you know, Dr. Angela achy out of north Florida, integrative medicine, she's yelled trained. She created helped with the integrative medicine program.
[Page//00:23:20] She's an amazing one of the world's leading physicians and concierge physicians. And so she's been using my keto green 16, my second book in her group, medical visits. So she incorporated group medical visits where they get their. Labs and they get their blood pressures and weights, and then they do Kita green, 16, and they follow up and she's reduced.
[Page//00:23:43] And one, one gentleman in 16 days, he reduced his blood pressure medicine. That was like, it was just going up and up and up. He reduced his blood pressure medicine. He lost, oh my gosh. Like I forget how much, but over 20 pounds it was crazy. In [Page//00:24:00] 16 days and he was feeling better, more energetic once she reduced his blood pressure medicine.
[Page//00:24:05] Cause he came in, this was at the start of COVID. We were doing this and, and he called her, he was like, I'm feeling kind of I'm feeling kind of weak sluggish, you know, what's going on. And he was like, let me do COVID giveaway. We do a COVID swab. She was one of the first clinics that drive through CLA COVID swabbing.
[Page//00:24:23] And she checked his blood pressure. It's like, oh, we got to reduce your blood pressure medicine. It's really low. And it was from decreasing the inflammatory foods. I mean, he's doing amazing. Amazing. Now we've seen hemoglobin A1C drop in two months, like significantly, significantly. It's beautiful.
[Page//00:24:41] Julie Michelson: And it it's over and over and over again. I have a client in her sixties, so female. Post-menopausal she from eating this way and keeping a gratitude journal and managing her, you know, it's a, it's a whole lifestyle. It's not just diet, but [Page//00:25:00] the diet is so huge. And she came in and, and I know she thought I was crazy when I said, you know, these are the things that are going to improve.
[Page//00:25:08] You can do, oh, no, I've been a yo-yo diet or my whole life. I won't be able to, I won't be able to do it. I, if I hear one more time, I am a lifetime member at weight Watchers. I'm like, okay, you shouldn't have to be a lifetime member of any kind of eating plan. She's off two blood pressure medications. She's off blood sugar medications went from type two diabetic to not even pre-diabetic her A1C actually I think is lower than mine, which is, I mean, mine's good.
[Page//00:25:40] But amazing. Remarkable. And yeah, weight came off energy got better. She used to not be able to put the groceries away when she got home from the store, because she'd be too exhausted from going to the store. Now she is doing Pilates and water aerobics and riding her butt. I mean, she's, I'm like, you're like the [Page//00:26:00] Energizer bunny.
[Page//00:26:01] It is on believable.
[Page//00:26:03] Anna Cabeca: it is possible for everyone listing and what really makes a difference when having a coach when having a coach and community around you Jolie. So being able to work with you and that. Gift that you give your clients, is that, is that accountability and is that encouragement and is that direction?
[Page//00:26:20] Look, I know there's many wrong paths. We can go down, but let me, let me guide your hand down the right one.
[Page//00:26:26] Julie Michelson: Yeah. I love partnering with people. It makes me really excited. And I always say, now she's now sharing all, you know, anytime she encounters a friend, who's, you know, she's like, let me tell you what I've been doing. You know, she's sharing and that's that ripple effect. It's, it's a beautiful thing. It
[Page//00:26:44] Anna Cabeca: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[Page//00:26:47] Julie Michelson: So I just wanted to make sure everybody knew I am very against double cooking when you're improving your health. And so
[Page//00:26:56] Anna Cabeca: Men can do it too. Exactly. And they do amazing with it. [Page//00:27:00] And in fact we had one in my girlfriend doctor club. We had a call the other day and that was the question. Like my husband won't eat this we'll need that, you know, this time the other thing. And I'm like, well, look, there's the carnivore planning here.
[Page//00:27:13] And pretty much guys love carnivore plans and you know, and, and her son too, I said, also talk with them. About doing this with you, that you need the support and it's good for them. And for six days we can do it together. But to, to like really Ask for and demand support. This will really make me happy.
[Page//00:27:34] And a guy in your life wants you to be happy. This will make me happy. I know giving me, like you can add in, it'll make me friskier, you know, more receptive, all this good stuff. And, and you want him to come along too, because there's the fat side dad syndrome that is it's true. And I'm seeing it. You go to any kid's soccer game, you can look around and it's really sad.
[Page//00:27:58] And this is really good [Page//00:28:00] in my Instagram. There's a little interview with Rolando Blackman, you know, all American Mavericks player, just, you know, top of the top of the field, right. A very dedicated athlete. He's in his sixties now. And he's like, look, you know, guys, it starts with you. And I want every man to hear that.
[Page//00:28:18] Because in order for his wife or any, you know, person in your life to feel supported, you really, really does that encouragement matters. Like I see you doing this and you know, I'm with you, let me help you along. What can I do? What meal can I prepare for your all clean dishes or whatever it may be, but like,
[Page//00:28:38] Julie Michelson: I tell my guy
[Page//00:28:39] Anna Cabeca: the whole family
[Page//00:28:40] Julie Michelson: thing in the world is that when he cleans the dishes,
[Page//00:28:43] Anna Cabeca: that's porn
[Page//00:28:44] Julie Michelson: when she always does, by the way, but I have to keep reinforcing
[Page//00:28:47] Anna Cabeca: Oh, my God. Absolutely. I always joke. I say that's corn for women.
[Page//00:28:52] Julie Michelson: It is it totally is. He said he had read that in a book in college and I'm like, well, it is true. It's [Page//00:29:00] accurate. I love that.
[Page//00:29:02] And it, and then it's a gift for the whole family, you know? And that's the thing you, you may ask your guy for support.
[Page//00:29:10] Anna Cabeca: Well, I I've gone on strike. I got on strike at my house. I did Easter Sunday. I went on strike because Easter Sunday I've been like 40 days, no alcohol, mostly 98%. And I made this great from my book, my roast leg of lamb and my brussel sprouts. And I just made like a beautiful, a beautiful dinner.
[Page//00:29:33] Right. And I'd been cooking and I was excited. Shop, cooked everything. And I called everyone. I said, come make your plates and let's go sit and eat at the table. And one of my youngest daughter, she's like, oh, I'm not hungry. Cause she was snacking on the security. She said, I'm not hungry. I made my plate and I went out and I ate by myself until everyone made their plates and join me.
[Page//00:29:59] [Page//00:30:00] And I'd been on, I've been on strike. I said, number one, I'm not, I'm not making two different meals. I'm not having, you know, if there's something that comes into my house, that's not key to green. I'm throwing it away. I'm towing the line for me and I'm going to tow it for you. And it's taken me a while to get to this.
[Page//00:30:15] Cause I'm the single mom guilt ridden syndrome.
[Page//00:30:19] Julie Michelson: years.
[Page//00:30:21] Anna Cabeca: Yeah. So you know what I'm talking about? And it's like, oh, well I'll just let her have it, this one. So I'll just,
[Page//00:30:25] Julie Michelson: used to have a gluten bin in our pantry because my. Oldest son was diagnosed with celiac. And then I went gluten-free to support him still not knowing I too was celiac, but just looking back and thinking, oh, I thought I was being a nice mom. Like, you know, oh, you could have the Oreos, we're going to keep them in this bin.
[Page//00:30:47] What was I feeding
[Page//00:30:48] Anna Cabeca: What was I thinking?
[Page//00:30:49] Julie Michelson: Yeah. Yeah. And I've had
[Page//00:30:52] Anna Cabeca: These strong.
[Page//00:30:52] Julie Michelson: too. Why am I letting my kids eat that junk? And, and I'm eating good food. That's not food. That's not.
[Page//00:30:59] Anna Cabeca: And [Page//00:31:00] look, what's happening in our schools. Like my kids, we would pack for their lunches, but I, when daughter was in public school, she, I went to have lunch with them a few times with her a few times. And at the lunch table, six out of 18 kids got up to go get their. Behavior medicine, you know, there, you know, like they're good medicine at lunch.
[Page//00:31:22] And I looked and I said, what are they eating? I mean, they had like the corn dog, the cupcake, the, you know, and what happens for breakfast, they get cereal. And so what do they need? They need a snack. You know, that's snacking ritual that we're doing in school is because the high and low blood sugars. So if you just do eggs and bacon in the morning with some greens, there'll be right.
[Page//00:31:45] They'll be great.
[Page//00:31:47] Julie Michelson: Yeah.
[Page//00:31:47] Anna Cabeca: then, and then for lunch,
[Page//00:31:49] Julie Michelson: and set.
[Page//00:31:50] Anna Cabeca: exactly. They can sit and think and you know, we have, so my, my kids love sushi. They love it. Mommy, you [Page//00:32:00] know, they love these things. And so why, why bring in the other stuff anyway? No, it's, it's tough to tow that line. We think we're being nice and we're actually doing harm.
[Page//00:32:09] Julie Michelson: Yeah now. Well, and once your mind shifts and you really know, I mean, you can't, I would, I couldn't give anybody. I love that so-called food. Cause it's not really food.
[Page//00:32:21] Anna Cabeca: And it's so hard, especially a couple. Yeah, yeah,
[Page//00:32:23] Julie Michelson: Yeah.
[Page//00:32:24] Anna Cabeca: yeah. I mean, I need some good accountability and coaching. Julia, I'll call you the
[Page//00:32:28] Julie Michelson: All right. Yeah,
[Page//00:32:29] Anna Cabeca: All right.
[Page//00:32:30] Julie Michelson: shoot me a text. I'm here.
[Page//00:32:32] Anna Cabeca: Yeah. Thank you.
[Page//00:32:34] Julie Michelson: So. Step one. I literally there's. I cannot encourage everybody enough to, to get this book, to get all of your books really. But this one is, is so exciting to me. I did want to ask you one other question. You talk about checking pH. Do you have a recommendation for people that are like, I don't know how to do that.
[Page//00:32:59] I don't [Page//00:33:00] know where to get strips. What w what where do they start?
[Page//00:33:03] Anna Cabeca: I created my own strips that have ketone and pH on single strip because there I was a single mom peeing on two different strips. I was like, oh my God. Can't do that. So I created my own. So it's Quito, P H strips. You can get them on Amazon. It's something like $13. There's a hundred strips in there, but there's 50 in a separate aluminum because once you open that container moisture, Air gets in.
[Page//00:33:27] I mean, at doctor's offices, we go through a container a week, but in this case, you know, you're going to probably have that container for over a month. So keep that other 50 in the aluminum foil, separate, and then just, just pee on the. Super easy. It checks your pH checks, your ketones. You want to get into Bo.
[Page//00:33:45] Now, if you are, have been in ketosis for a term without having a feast day or a carb-up day or something like that, it may not show on your urine test strips, but you can just do a quick ketone blood meter [Page//00:34:00] test or breath test. There's other ways, certainly that are the gold standards, but for quick and easy and regular monitoring, Quito pH.
[Page//00:34:10] Julie Michelson: I love
[Page//00:34:10] Anna Cabeca: instructions that I have videos and not actually peeing on a strip, but everything
[Page//00:34:16] Julie Michelson: Thank you for not sharing that with us.
[Page//00:34:20] Anna Cabeca: you are welcome.
[Page//00:34:21] Julie Michelson: love that I tell my clients, you know, cause I'm always talking poop with my clients and, and I'm like, you can be as descriptive as you want and do not send me pictures. I do not want to see it.
[Page//00:34:33] Anna Cabeca: Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
[Page//00:34:34] Julie Michelson: we, we all can figure out how to pee on a stick. It's it's really not hard a strip.
[Page//00:34:40] So, so well thought out, so detail oriented you are. I love the, you know, oh, we're going to keep these 50 strips fresh while you work your way through. Container.
[Page//00:34:52] Anna Cabeca: yeah. Yeah.
[Page//00:34:54] Julie Michelson: Fantastic. So what is one step I already kind of gave them [Page//00:35:00] one, but one step that listeners can take immediately today right now to start to improve.
[Page//00:35:06] Anna Cabeca: Make sure you're getting enough greens and the low carbohydrate greens, the alkalinizes the herbs spices. How are you seasoning your food? Like consider that as part of your food as medicine.
[Page//00:35:18] Julie Michelson: I love that. That's a beautiful thing. I think so many people don't use herbs and spices intentionally. So that is amazing advice. There you go guys. And then I'm going to throw out, really get seriously, get the book or do it.
[Page//00:35:32] Anna Cabeca: Yeah, you guys will love the book and get it. Get a couple copies, get it for friends. We have web person grace and she bought eight bucks. She's like, I'm making sure. Everyone, no one has an excuse. We're going to do this together. When you bring along your friends and your friends hold you accountable, like once, always stronger than you are, and you're always stronger than someone else.
[Page//00:35:51] So doing that together really improves, improves compatibility and results for all of you. And then if you've got some naysayers in [Page//00:36:00] your group and some cantankerous people are very negative. Well, maybe those are. People you have to pause. And one of my chapters
[Page//00:36:07] Julie Michelson: I love
[Page//00:36:08] Anna Cabeca: I say, pausing, the things that no longer serve you.
[Page//00:36:11] And sometimes it's putting those hard boundaries around some people in your life too, that are defeating you, that are keeping you unwell. And I love the expression. You can never get healthy in an environment that made you sick. So pay close attention to what's no longer serving. And as you physiologically stronger as you will be with the keto Greenway, as you become physiologically stronger, you're mentally stronger and you have more of the gumption to say what's really on your mind.
[Page//00:36:42] And to create those from lines. And like I did finally going on strike with my family.
[Page//00:36:47] Julie Michelson: I love that.
[Page//00:36:48] Anna Cabeca: still on strike.
[Page//00:36:49] Julie Michelson: You're still on strike. Hey, you know, we got to create the change we need. And I love, you know, you, you can't keep doing what got you, [Page//00:37:00] sick and get well, like it just doesn't work. So I love that guys pick up the book and check out the pauses because it is, it is. Truly life changing. I, and I want to have you back on, because I, I, we didn't even get to talk about like how sexy the second half of life can be.
[Page//00:37:20] And, and
[Page//00:37:21] Anna Cabeca: Oh, my gosh. Oh yeah. That's mine. That's my, that's my specialty sexual health, sorry. Sexual health and sexual medicine. That is my dad. I love talking about that because there's no limitation. There's
[Page//00:37:34] Julie Michelson: There's not you know, for those of you that are, that are listening on audio, or this is two, two ladies in their fifties chatting. So we would love to have you back on to talk about that. That would be a lot of fun.
[Page//00:37:48] Anna Cabeca: Definitely, definitely in the meantime you know, definitely check out my website at Dr. yana.com. A lot of good information on that solutions that I created because there were none of my doctors back to help me.
[Page//00:37:59] Julie Michelson: Which is [Page//00:38:00] amazing. And that is how functional medicine just keeps getting better and better is, you know, stock doctors needing to fix themselves. Thank goodness for the rest of us. So the links will be in the show notes. You just shoot.
[Page//00:38:14] Anna Cabeca: and challenges from our patients. Like when you say to your doctor, look, this isn't working. Bye help me find a different way or keep asking. And then when you do find that way, go back and share it with your doctor, say, Hey, like I I've had clients giving my first book, the hormone fix to their doctors and now many paws to their doctors.
[Page//00:38:32] And again, position at a, you know, one of the world's best position, giving running group programs with keto green, 16 y'all and be like, that is amazing stuff. Like when you know that it changes your life, spread the word. Spread the word we, as, as women, we have so much strength with our voice. With our pocket box.
[Page//00:38:53] We have so much influence and way back in night in 2000, a patient gave me Dr. Christina Northrup's book. [Page//00:39:00] Women's bodies. Women's wisdom. I mean, I didn't have time to read it page by page, but I, I flipped through and I read sections and I was like, huh, it just planted a seed of curiosity to open my mind and ask more.
[Page//00:39:12] Julie Michelson: Well, and those are the kinds of physicians that if you don't have a physician who is grateful for, you know, the opportunity to continue to learn from colleagues and others in the field, it made me really sad. I was super excited the day that my rheumatologists fired me because I no longer had any auto-immune symptoms, not once did he asked me what I had.
[Page//00:39:38] Not once he was not interested and,
[Page//00:39:42] Anna Cabeca: Oh, you planted a seed, Julie, you planted a seed and he may be interested. Now you may have
[Page//00:39:47] Julie Michelson: he may be,
[Page//00:39:49] Anna Cabeca: and it, and I think that's the key, like show up, let them know, communicate with us as physicians. I'm constantly learning. I mean, seriously,
[Page//00:39:58] Julie Michelson: we all
[Page//00:39:59] Anna Cabeca: humble, [Page//00:40:00] but you know, I'm constantly, I'm constantly learning and And I appreciate that.
[Page//00:40:04] And, you know, we spend a lot of money as positions, hundreds of thousands of dollars and prime years of our lives. And we think, you know, we should have all the tools and we absolutely should, but we don't, we don't.
[Page//00:40:17] Julie Michelson: Guys share these books. Dr. Anna, thank you so much for joining us today. All the links are going to be in the show notes. Guys, links to the book. I know you have gifts for people who buy the book there, you have extra assets for them. Yeah. So.
[Page//00:40:36] Anna Cabeca: At Dr. anna.com like you go to that asset link. It's. If you go to my book page, you'll get a link to where to go, to get the bonuses.
[Page//00:40:43] Julie Michelson: Perfect. And the link to the book will be in the show notes as well. I so appreciate you taking the time to, to share this with us today.
[Page//00:40:53] Anna Cabeca: Thank you. Thanks for having me.
[Page//00:40:55] Julie Michelson: For everyone listening. Remember you can get the show notes and transcripts by visiting [Page//00:41:00] inspired living.show. I hope you had a great time and enjoy this episode as much as I did! See you next week.
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Dr. Anna Cabeca, DO, OBGYN, FACOG
OBGYN / Integrative Medicine
Dr. Anna Cabeca, DO, OBGYN, FACOG, has served 10,000+ women in her private practice— and millions more through her books, online videos and articles - for 20+ years.
She is triple board certified and a Fellow of Gynecology and Obstetrics, Integrative Medicine, Anti-aging and Regenerative Medicine. And holds special certifications in Functional medicine, Sexual health, Bioidentical hormone replacement therapy
She is triple board certified and a Fellow of Gynecology and Obstetrics, Integrative Medicine, Anti-aging and Regenerative Medicine. And holds special certifications in Functional medicine, Sexual health, Bioidentical hormone replacement therapy
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