Episode 85
Andreanna Rainville RN, NC:Genomics: Your User Manual
Andreanna Rainville RN, NC:
Genomics: Your User Manual
Nutrigenomics is revolutionizing the way we approach our health and wellness, putting the power of personalized medicine in our hands. In this episode, I had an insightful conversation with Registered Nurse Andreanna Rainville, who shared her expertise on how nutrigenomics can help us understand the relationship between our genes, nutrition, and health. We discussed the importance of individualized health solutions, epigenetics, and how to use nutrigenomics test kits to unlock the secrets of our genetics for optimal health.
First Aired on: May 1, 2023
Episode 85
Andreanna Rainville RN, NC:Genomics: Your User Manual
Andreanna Rainville RN, NC:
Genomics: Your User Manual
Nutrigenomics is revolutionizing the way we approach our health and wellness, putting the power of personalized medicine in our hands. In this episode, I had an insightful conversation with Registered Nurse Andreanna Rainville, who shared her expertise on how nutrigenomics can help us understand the relationship between our genes, nutrition, and health. We discussed the importance of individualized health solutions, epigenetics, and how to use nutrigenomics test kits to unlock the secrets of our genetics for optimal health.
First Aired on: May 1, 2023
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Table of Contents:
In this episode:
In this episode:
Nutrigenomics is revolutionizing the way we approach our health and wellness, putting the power of personalized medicine in our hands.
In this episode, I had an insightful conversation with Registered Nurse Andreanna Rainville, who shared her expertise on how nutrigenomics can help us understand the relationship between our genes, nutrition, and health. We discussed the importance of individualized health solutions, epigenetics, and how to use nutrigenomics test kits to unlock the secrets of our genetics for optimal health.
Read on for the key takeaways from our conversation and learn how you can use this cutting-edge science to take control of your health, prevent or manage chronic illnesses, and ultimately, change the conversation around wellness.
Here are some key takeaways from my conversation with Nurse Andi:
1. Nutrigenomics:
We discussed how nutrigenomics explores the relationship between genes, nutrition, and health. This field helps us understand how our genetic makeup can influence our nutritional needs, and vice versa.
2. Personalized health solutions:
Emphasizing the importance of individualized approaches, we talked about how customized nutrition and lifestyle plans can prevent or manage chronic illnesses based on our unique genetic makeup.
3. Epigenetics:
We touched upon the role of epigenetics, which is how lifestyle choices and environmental factors can influence gene expression. This knowledge empowers people to make informed decisions about their health.
4. Nutrigenomics test kit:
Andreanna described the process of ordering a nutrigenomics test kit, which provides users with 11 different reports based on their genetics. These reports are designed to be user-friendly and affordable, empowering individuals to take control of their own wellness.
5. Empowerment and changing the conversation:
We both shared a common goal of empowering people to change the conversation around wellness and take control of their health through understanding their genetic makeup and implementing tailored nutritional and lifestyle plans.
And this is just a taste of Nutrigenomics and its impact on health...
It's incredible to see how SNP Nutrition and Nutrigenomics can empower you to take control of your health and well-being. By understanding your unique genetic makeup, you can make more informed decisions about your lifestyle and supplementation.
If you're eager to learn more and explore how health coaching can support you on this journey, schedule a call with me to see if it's the right fit for you.
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Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Welcome back to The Inspired Living with Autoimmunity podcast. I'm your host, Julie Michelson, and today we are joined by Andrea Rainville, registered nurse and nutritional counselor and scientific advisor for S N P Nutrigenomics. In today's conversation, we are talking about empowerment through epigenetics.
Nurse Andy shares the advanced testing and custom nutritional [00:01:00] supplementation that's now available to give you the foundational support that your body needs on the genetic level to reverse or prevent symptoms and improve your overall health.
Julie Michelson: Andreanna, welcome to the podcast.
Andreanna Rainville: Thank you so much, Julie, and it's a pleasure to be here with you.
Julie Michelson: I am so looking forward to our conversation today, and I always love to start with story, um, because I think especially what you're doing now, and I know you're not new to this world, but it is so cutting edge. It's like, well, this couldn't have been your goal when you were a little girl. So, um, share a little bit of your journey with us.
Andreanna Rainville: I would love to, so as a new nurse, I, which was, you know, like 24 years ago I got to work in German functional medicine. That was sort of my starting ground, which was different, you know, it was, A lot of [00:02:00] homeopathy, a lot of, um, physics, a lot of philosophy, as well as the basics of looking at, you know, the five levels of healing.
And, and in that opportunity, I got to meet amazing patients. So it really started with necessity. Of people would come in with very intense, complex cases that we really, you know, didn't always know where to start with. And one family in particular was just, ugh, you know, high school sweethearts. Trying to have babies, you know, married, trying to have babies, and they were just having the heck of a time to conceive.
And, you know, we went down the heavy metal track and we went down the mold track and we, you know, we, we kind of went through that deductive reason that all of us do in functional medicine. And were stumped. And you know, we, we got a bit of dental work cleaned up [00:03:00] and toxicity under control, and infections under control.
And they were able to conceive and unfortunately they then lost their baby. And it was a shock, you know, to see an pneumonia problem. And I'd never really. Kind of experienced that and that was really when, you know, that was in early nineties and genomics were very, still barely, we weren't even done with the genome project.
And you know, we were trying to figure out, okay, what is going on with this weird situation? And. It led us into genetics, and so we were kind of going, okay, there's a methylation problem, but even bigger, there's a sulfation problem and okay, let's try this again. So we were trying to sort it out and they got pregnant again, had another child and lost that second child, which is just such a heart wrench.
You know, when you [00:04:00] feel like. You know, this is a dream and, and you're watching it so close and then slip away and, you know, and so we really dug into it on a deeper level and then tied it back to what we knew about, you know, toxicity in particular, and functionality of all the systems in the body work.
And at that point it was really complicated cuz there weren't a lot of people doing it. You know, we had Amy ASCO was kind of coming out in the autism world barely. And Dr. Anderson was doing some stuff and you know, when Lynch hadn't even showed up on the, it, this was like way back when. And so it was trying to look at these huge lists of numbers and letters that, and try to tie it into what does this mean, what can I do with this?
And. It was definitely challenging in the beginning, but they were able to conceive and then have a child and their [00:05:00] child, and then they had three more babies. And so it was that piece where I was like, okay, I don't particularly like this because it's complicated and it's cumbersome, but if we could figure out how to make it easy and if we could figure out how to make it affordable and how to make it, um, Not the doomsday measurement, you know, because so many people got into that
Julie Michelson: Genetics is your destiny, which we know is so not true.
Andreanna Rainville: No, definitely not. And you know, it's not our destiny by any chance because epigenetics, like I'm a big Bruce Lipton, you know, friend and follower as well as like Lynn McTaggart, Rupert Childre. These were people I got to meet in different. Places of work throughout history, and I really believe that we do have the ability to turn things on and off in our body, but sometimes it's easier for some than others, [00:06:00] and we're not really.
The world we live in today is not exactly what we were designed to live in. And so even when people are doing things so right, if you don't know some of those foundational pathways that might be needing more support versus others, it gets very hard to know how to focus your time and energy with epigenetics.
Julie Michelson: I love that. I love that you said that. And I, I think obviously lifestyle wise, there are things that. All of us can and ultimately should be doing, whether we are or not. Um, but I love that, that you're, you know, focusing on. Okay. But some, like, some of us need to pay attention in, you know, specific areas and, and some of us get leeway in those same areas.
Um, um, and so I know you refer to it as your user manual, right? So, um, [00:07:00] what. Like, tell me a little more about the kinds of information and, and how actually usable it is for people.
Andreanna Rainville: Definitely. So a lot of us, you know, humans are complex. You know, we're this beautiful, amazing design that we can't, we can't replicate. Right. You know, it's just such a perfect system and if our bodies have the right, uh, You know, foundational nutrients, if we have the right electrical functionality within our system, if our cognition, our minds is in that right set, you know, if we're right with our clan, things really flow well and it's, you know, only been in the last a hundred or so years that we've seen this huge rise in all these weird chronic illnesses that we're never here for.
Hundreds of thousands of millennia, you know, and
Julie Michelson: Well, I was even thinking you were talking about an [00:08:00] early nineties in autism. I actually taught at Nova Southeastern University's school for autistic children in the, in the nineties. And it was so rare back then and, and I think we had one girl in our class, um, which was. Typical, you know, uh, but it was, it was a, it was a really ra just in my short lifetime, my short actually adulthood the, the 30 years or so I've been an adult.
Um, just the, the rate of all of it. When I was diagnosed with autoimmunity in my thirties, I was ta, you know, oh, you're so young and now, Oh my gosh. You know, the autoimmunity rates and, and peds are, it's insane.
Andreanna Rainville: No, it is. And it, it used to be like, oh, well, were you born with this? If you weren't necessarily born with it, it's probably an acquired situation. Well, now we're seeing [00:09:00] kids come in, born with it. And that's, that's, that's unheard of, you know, that's not a new thing. And you know, so we, we really started trying to go, how can we.
And I love that, you know, there's so much data out there, but data can be overwhelming and especially if it's
Julie Michelson: do you do with it?
Andreanna Rainville: Exactly, you know, uh, well, we would have patients come in with a suitcase full of pills and you're like, okay, if you need an Excel sheet to know when to take your supplements, you're taking too many supplements.
Like, you know, it's, there's no hell that's just gonna fix it. So, You know, I was blessed with lots of folks that had very, besides the wonderful autism community, which has been before autism, it was mostly heavy metal and chronic pain was kind of my focus. But then that led into Lyme disease and then that led into autism and.
Then in the last decade or so, it's really blossomed into a lot of folks that had, [00:10:00] you know, it started off with multiple chemical sensitivity, but then it kind of became mast cell activation and different kinds of, a lot of intolerances and just being shocked at how many debilitating allergies were happening and you know, and kind of.
You know, and I went down the track of trying to chase one gene at a time, and that's just a bad situation. So,
Julie Michelson: That sounds like a Western medicine approach.
Andreanna Rainville: shockingly, well, you know, I am Western
Julie Michelson: That's, I,
Andreanna Rainville: as well, you know,
Julie Michelson: It's maybe it's this thing, this one. Well, and I used to say, You know, we have to look for the root cause, right? In the singular, what's the root cause of your autoimmune? And it's like, oh my gosh. It's never just one thing. Uh, it goes back to that some of it's a bigger factor than others, but it's, it's always more than the one.
And I'm guessing you found it as more than one gene involved.
Andreanna Rainville: [00:11:00] Well, and, and that was a, that was kind of a tricky part too, because you could look at thousands of genes or you could look at what we call actionable genes. I don't wanna look at something, I can't do something about, you know, like, that's just depressing, you know? And, and genes have kind of been, you know, misunderstood and thinking that, oh, It's if you have this one gene, you're destined to have this problem.
And it doesn't really like, there's a small, small percentage that that is true, but most of them are, you can work around them, you could biohack 'em or you could do a bypass and that's where nutrition is so exciting and you know, yet, you know, I can't eat. 10 pounds of broccoli to make my c b S work correctly.
I can't, you know, support certain things just because my lifestyle doesn't allow me to. So when I started working with S N P, I was thrilled that it was focusing only on actionable genes. And [00:12:00] although we test about 95 genes, And I love that, you know, working in pediatrics, if I could not poke a kid, I'm always happy to not, you know, so it's a simple cheek swab where basically you're taking a.
You know, uh, you tip essentially in going inside your mouth on each side, and then you pop it in the mail and about three weeks later you get these wonderful, well, I think they're wonderful cuz I wrote most of 'em with Dr. Price. Like I'm one of the scientific advisors. But we've had the pleasure of getting to work with so many brilliant people that, and it's never ending.
It's like, as we learn more, we wanna make it better. Always. So, What we tried to do is get rid of the 50 bottles of stuff. So you as an individual do your testing. We'd look at the what the SNPs are. SNPs is just a term, it's called single nucleotide polymorphisms. And I think about it, if you're writing and you have a spelling mistake, that's [00:13:00] what a snip is.
You know where a gene is more like you don't have that page in your book that you're writing. So some people. Have these mutations and they change how pathways work. And so what we tried to do is really make it make common sense. How does this affect your inflammation? Because we know that's a key for many, many chronic illnesses.
How does it affect your oxidation? How does it affect your gut health? Those microbiome that we have, you know, more microbiota than cells in our bodies, so we wanna keep them happy too. And your mood, your brain, you know, because if you can't have motivation because your neurotransmitters are off, it's really hard to do the things you need to do to be healthy, you know?
And of course there's other things like heart health and immunity and, and those different parts. And so we broke it into 11 different systems in the body [00:14:00] and actionable genes that are tied to those systems. And the cool part is when you do what we call your core 19 genes, we have technology that takes your results from the laboratory to our manufacturing facility in Texas, and it custom compounds the nutrients to the milligram to support all of those genes, which is kind of a cool, when you think about it, is pretty amazing because.
There's over, you know, 400 million different combinations that can happen. So it's truly precision to you and your needs, and it doesn't end with that. You know, like that's the, that's how, what I call our insurance policy, it's just to support you foundationally. You know, if you catch a flu or a cold, you're going to need support outside of that, but your immune system [00:15:00] should be functioning more optimally because if you have genetics that are directly affecting your immunity, we're supporting those.
And so it, it's pretty exciting in a lot of different ways.
Julie Michelson: So if somebody, this total like just curiosity question. I'm think, oh, and we're, we've. At the peanut gallery chiming it. Um, you know, we do, I we use a lot of testing and, and supplementation where needed, right? Uh, and I'm one of those people who I don't, you know, you hear about all these popular supplements and people jump on the bandwagon, and, and I, I think everything you do should be targeted.
To you. Um, and, and so say somebody is working with a functional medicine doctor and they're getting regular lab work and they've got supplementation prescribed, you know, accordingly,
Andreanna Rainville: Mm-hmm.
Julie Michelson: this, it sounds like would [00:16:00] just work hand in hand that there's not really any big conflict and, and are, are you getting when somebody receives their custom. Um, supplements from you guys is, is obvious. I'm assuming they're, they know what's in there so that they're not taking too much of something or, okay.
Andreanna Rainville: No, exactly. And it's, it's super interesting to me because like we can go off of. Do you know what kind of coq 10 you do better with? You know, do you need ail or aol? Do you need it oxidized? Do, can you get away with either? So that's based on your NQL one gene, you know of what? Form works better for you or also vitamin D.
You know, vitamin D is so critical to so many thousands of different processes, but if you can't absorb it, then you know you in, or you can't convert it or you can't transport it. [00:17:00] Then you need a certain amount of support to make that happen. And that's not just giving vitamin D. There's other, yeah. And more isn't the way to always do that.
You know, sometimes we have to do, you know, and we talk about how red light therapy can happen with that. So not only do we give you, uh, Supplement support, but we also give different kinds of epigenetic ideas. And it's really not that anyone has to do all of them, but it's like sometimes you just need a little bit of motivation onto something new cuz you're in a rut with your epigenetic healthcare program and.
What I like about what we do is we help you focus. Like if you do methylation, great, then great. Your body's got that covered. Let's focus on your inflammatory pathway. And a lot of these, um, SNPs that we measure, we also give a list of what lab work helps to show. Are you expressing it correctly or not? [00:18:00] So that you've got some objective standpoints.
And I always tell people, do your labs beforehand, and then after 120 days of being on your supplementation, retest like a, there's a lot of symptom surveys that we could do subjectively, but.
Julie Michelson: So I think it's always really good. Most important is how you feel. So I love that you said that, you know, that's the goal. My goal is never for anybody to have the most beautiful lab work. I was one of those people when I was at my sickest that they were always like, your labs look great. I'm like, super.
I can barely function. So, um, it's only a piece and, and definitely symptom expression is number one, how we feel. But I am also, I have become such a data geek and it is really nice to track. It's not just nice, I think it's essential, especially whether you're taking supplements or medication or both. Um, or you know, if you're somebody who's, who really doesn't need, I was [00:19:00] laughing when I.
Like, uh, what I, I don't methylate, well, I don't detox well, I have, you know, very overactive inflammatory, but like you name it, um, I would love to be one of those people that could just, you know, not supplement and, and be fine, but I'm thrilled to be off of my prescriptions. So it's like a, so I, I think that that blend, I know it is important to track and to know what's going on in your body.
Andreanna Rainville: For sure. And also that helps us kind of again, focus in more because if you find that you've done foundational support, And yet you're still having glitches in a system, then that means your epi. There's some kind of epigenetic thing that isn't happening to the extent that you need it to happen. And that's, for me, I look at all of this as empowerment.
It's if I know I can't focus on everything, unfortunately as much as I want to, [00:20:00] but if I know where my key factors of. Needing support are, then I don't have to waste the time and energy on the things that my body does well. I can really focus in on, hey, you've got this gut issue that you need to get fixed.
And then when you do that, all these other systems fall into place because like Genes, everything interconnects and you know, it's, it's, we have to have this symbiosis and support it. And to be able to see it in actuality, like for a lot of people, oh, hey wait, you have this genetic, that means that gluten's just not even in, even in Italy, it's not gonna be great for you.
You know, it's so, it's like it helps us to understand, or maybe you just need more enzymes to break it down because of X, Y, and Z that's happening in your [00:21:00] body. Or if you detoxed a little bit more because. You don't have the right genes to do your detoxification. And we live on planet Earth, so it, you know, you breathe wa you, I love it when people come in and they're like, no, I have a really clean diet.
And I'm like, that's great. Do you use water? Do you breathe there? And I don't. We're getting ready for forest time, forest fires, and I mean, I'm blown away how people's heavy metals always go up. When as the fires happen, you know, and, and they're not doing anything other than breathing the air and even filtered breath, you know?
So trying to really help people see this is, this is just to empower you and give you foundational support. And like we were talking about with your, you know, we are inviting, we would love. More and more functional providers to join our teams because we are doing ongoing research and working with, you know, the different systems of the body and helping to support people [00:22:00] because it's really about, I want a healthy world to live in.
And, and when people don't feel well, they don't always act their true self. And I just wanna see everybody blossom into. The light that they all are and, and really be able to have the energy, like, I need energy to run. I have, um, I have three grandchildren and they're, they're exhausting, you know, so you gotta like keep up.
And I, you know, and I also had, I had a child late in life and so I have a 14 year old too. And
Julie Michelson: Wow.
Andreanna Rainville: you know, we've,
Julie Michelson: Busy lady.
Andreanna Rainville: Just a lot of interest in the world going on, and so it's like, I don't want to live to be a hundred and, you know, just enjoy the nursing home. I wanna be like having them, trying to keep up beach combing and making, you know, art and, and living a full life.
Julie Michelson: health span, right? It's not about being old. It's about, I, I [00:23:00] had said, and I'm like, oh, that was maybe the best thing that ever came outta my mouth on this podcast was I, or actually it might have been on somebody else's podcast that I said it. At first. Um, but, you know, I wanna, I wanna live young until I'm done.
Like, period. That's the, I've already been in that other place where I didn't like have the ability, the energy, the, you know, to, to do the things. Um, and now that's all I wanna do. I wanna do the things. So I love, and I love, so we're, we're talking about it through this lens of, of course, autoimmunity.
Chronic illness, all the things, right? Whether it's toxicity, autism, you just pick one there. It's all rampant, right? And it's all chronic inflammation conditions, or all conditions driven by chronic inflammation. So we could throw Alzheimer's and dementia in that pool as well. Um,
Andreanna Rainville: Well, type three diabetes is what they're calling it [00:24:00] now. And so if we can look at how and I, and it's amazing how much mitochondrial dysfunction has blown up in the last
Julie Michelson: Oh, it's huge. It's
Andreanna Rainville: compared, you know, I didn't see that before. And so if we can look at. How do you tend to do on a mitochondrial level?
Can you make a t p? Just like if you can't make gasoline, it's really hard to do all the work we have to do. And you know, and so it, it, but if you do have a little glitch there, that's the joy. Nutrigenomics is amazing because it's just blowing up in how can we use different kinds of nutrients that we can't necessarily get, cuz we're not gardening, we're not, well, we're not doing it as much as we used to.
Julie Michelson: Well, and even if we are, you know, soil's depleted and, and,
Andreanna Rainville: Yeah, well it's kind of amazing how it's evolving though. And so if you could focus in on how do I support these factors? And I know that, okay, when I start [00:25:00] to feel a little bit worn down, what's my sleep doing? You know, am I doing the different genetic epigenetic support measures so that I can blossom, you know, do what my body's meant to do?
And it's amazing how. Given the right circumstances, given the right nutrients, given the right mineral, like mineral depletion we're, if we're talking about soil depletion, I can't. I used to go to, um, Boulder Fest with Robert Cran in Colorado, a lot of Finn V in, we, you know, 20 years ago we were talking about how horribly depleted the soil was from, you know, comparative to a hundred years before, and.
You know, and we're trying to get, you know, luckily there's a lot of people doing something about it. You know, we've got, Paul Stamets has done some amazing things with, you know, using mycelium to support it. So I always try to find [00:26:00] the
Julie Michelson: Right. It's not doom and gloom. And that was actually where, what I wanted to touch on we're, we're talking about using ne nutrigenomics to. In essence, help fix, right? We're, we're, you know, generally my audience is already symptomatic where they were, and so we're looking at a correction, right? Switching something off that we've already switched on and we want to change that.
But the beautiful thing is you can totally use it for prevention as well. A and that's the truly it. It's b I was gonna say, that's the truly exciting part. It's exciting on, on both levels. Um, you know, this whole idea, oh my gosh. Imagine the body can heal. Even once it's exhibited all of these other, all of these symptoms, um, and seeming decline.
But to, to be able to get that information that you said, you know, is it is power, um, a and just say, okay, [00:27:00] this is my potential and so I know I really wanna focus on X, Y, and Z so that I don't ever exhibit any of those things and I don't end up with a label.
Andreanna Rainville: Yes. And you know, even our, our founder was, Is an amazing human. And you know, went for 10 years with an autoimmune disorder that was never diagnosed, you know, and just kept telling, being told, oh, it's, you know, probably a Prozac deficiency.
Julie Michelson: in your head. Yep.
Andreanna Rainville: yeah. And it's like, Nope, it's never a Prozac deficiency ever.
Julie Michelson: No.
Andreanna Rainville: And we may need those tools to help us get to a point where we can kind of function in another way while we're building other parts. But it was amazing when she actually started, you know, Being on her custom compound, you know, her, her lab work, balanced out. Her doctor was able to see, oh wait, you do have, you know, four different, um, [00:28:00] inflammation genes, you know, your c r p, your interleukin sips, your tumor necrosis, alpha.
Like these are things we can see in labs also. So if genetically they're not working, we could use those labs to see, well, how, how is, whatever I'm doing. Functionally helping me through this glitch. And you know, and then a dear, dear, another person who actually introduced me was a mass cell patient who had been, you know, like it was not an uncommon thing.
I'm like talking to the ER docs like, don't do that. She's gonna crash on you. You don't do that. You know, and so, you know, to watch these beautiful women be able to. You know, take trips with their families, you know, have more freedom. Like, can you eat everything all the time? No, but can you have a party and, and survive it without weeks of being bedridden and pain and agony afterwards.
Yes. And, [00:29:00] and that was just so inspiring and, and to really kind of see this heartfelt movement of how can we make this easy? How can we make it accessible? How can we make it affordable because, You know, it's, it's expensive to be ill, like I'm shocked anymore. It,
Julie Michelson: Well,
Andreanna Rainville: I love things. It's like,
Julie Michelson: The, the story we all need to flip. People will say, you know, it's expensive to test, it's expensive to take supplements. Oh, it is really expensive to be ill. It's, you know, I mean, I went through a phase where I couldn't work. It's expensive,
Andreanna Rainville: yeah, well, and, and emotionally expensive and you know, to your family. I. You know, just in not being able to do the things that we are meant, you know, we're this gift of life is not to just sur survive and so
Julie Michelson: not supposed to just exist
Andreanna Rainville: no. And so,
Julie Michelson: live.
Andreanna Rainville: Yeah. In that full, whatever that means to people, you know? And, and it's super exciting to see [00:30:00] the evolution of wait, you know, we have answers.
More and more answers are coming to us all the time. And to help. And many times we have to help our healthcare practitioners. Like there's a lot of great healthcare practitioners, but all of us are sort of trained to look at what's wrong. Instead of what's right. And, and, and we can, you know, as we all collaborate, we keep bringing in, Hey, these are new ways we can measure things.
These are new ways we can support things. And it's an ongoing, um, Experiment together. And I think that my patients have always been my biggest teachers. Y you know, I've been blessed to work with amazing practitioners all over the world, but really it's the patients that help you see what actually works.
Yeah. And you know, and we're not, and you know, I loved working with kids cuz kids are not really like, they're not entrenched in [00:31:00] what they know. Filter and. You know, placebo doesn't work so well on them. So it's like they're happy to let you know I feel good or I don't feel good. But they're also easy to kind of help drift back into that wellness model.
And so, you know, now being able to do that for more because I'm always like, mom doesn't feel good. It's really hard for the household to feel good. So let's, you know, amp dad too. I mean, it's not to same one or the other, but we all have to kind of, you know, Take that health responsibility of how am I going to live as healthy as possible for myself and those around me?
Julie Michelson: Well, and what I so love about this is, is the individualization and personalization, customization. People say that to me all the time. Well, just tell me what to eat. Right. Or tell me what to, you know, how did you heal? Tell, and I'm like, so take a family. Yes, we have, we share some genetics, but there are going to be [00:32:00] differences.
And, and so to, again, that knowledge is power and oh my gosh, the gold of being able to know from the time your children are young.
Andreanna Rainville: Mm-hmm.
Julie Michelson: support they need to avoid where most so many of us either are or have been over the last decade or so, um, with chronic illness is, is, you know, just, it, it's so empowering and as a, as a mother, and we tease all the time.
My, my oldest is Celiac and you know, I used to feed him saltines, but way back when, like, who knew, you know, and who.
Andreanna Rainville: BRAT
Julie Michelson: Oh, wheat bread. You were trying to kill me, you know, holy wheat bread and, and so, you know, just the, there are so many tools available now. The not that I'm, you know, wanting to have more children in my fifties right now, um, but I would definitely do some things differently and my kids get to do things differently for their children.
And [00:33:00] that's the, that's why we do what we do. It's, you know, just changing the, the generational story of wellness, uh, is so much fun. So what is a step that, that people can take today to just. No.
Andreanna Rainville: what's kind of nice is we've put the power into everybody's hands. So you can either work with a practitioner who does use s np Nutrigenomics, or you can simply go to np. It's S N I P. And then nutrigenomics and.com and you can order your own test kit. And it's really simple. Like I said, you get a envelope, comes to you, you do a cheek swap, you drop it in the mail, and it's, there's a, you know, postage pre-addressed thing.
So there's no shipping fees or anything. It's not like some lab samples where you have to refrigerate it or freeze it or do [00:34:00] anything. It's, it's more like a paternity test. So you swab and you send it off. And what's kind of cool is we never sell any of your data. Some people are worried about that cuz there are some companies that do that.
And you become, so you, you get a number and you create an online portal on your internet and the lab receives. Only what your sex is, because that's kind of, you know, XS and Y is important and so, and that's what you were born with, not necessarily what you identify with. And so although we respect that, it, it does kind of mess up your genetic testing.
So you have to be whatever you were born with is what you list. And then in about three weeks, you will get an email that is all of your beautiful reports and you get 11 different reports. On all of the different health systems and then you get what we call your code complexer part. And I always recommend people, you could [00:35:00] either do powder or a pill.
I kind of like a powder cuz I could just mix it in with my juice or my tea or my
Julie Michelson: person because
Andreanna Rainville: And it's whatever your preference, whatever preference is. And what's kind of exciting is that, and everyone's like, well, what does it taste like? And you're like, well, mine tastes different than yours. And so I don't know what your salt tastes like.
Um, but we do, um, everything is third party tested, so we do organic wherever we can. There are, you know, different kinds of vitamins and minerals and different kinds of herbs and nutrients that are all in it. And what's kind of fun is there's like specific boosts is what we call them. So let's say you have the C R P gene, which is an inflammatory gene.
If you have one mutation versus two, you get a different amount of nutrients. And so it custom compounds that out to you and it takes about 10 days from when your test is done to [00:36:00] get your. A little bottle shows up at your house and it's got your name on it and it's your special mix. And so, and then you know, you start, like I said, I always like people to do the labs according to the system that they're concerned about.
Cuz you might be concerned about autoimmunity and someone else might be concerned about heart health. So we've written down a whole list of these are the common labs to monitor, you know,
Julie Michelson: Or you can be like me and do full panels.
Andreanna Rainville: Well, and,
Julie Michelson: like to look at all of it.
Andreanna Rainville: there are many full panels and so, and it's just a course of recommendation list, but it's, it's that way.
And then we know that 120 days is a cell cycle, so most people are gonna drastically feel a change within that. But your genetics don't change. So like, these are things until you get your epigenetic world. Perfect. This is the support for those things that aren't quite, [00:37:00] you know, going the way they could be going.
And I, I always tell people, this is your multivitamin and you know, but it's gonna have your methylated bs. It's gonna have your coq tens, it's gonna have your vitamin D, your vitamin K, you know, your basic functional nutrients that humans need to function well. Now if you're on a medication that depletes magnesium and b6, which most of 'em do, you might need a little extra, add it into that.
So it's not to say this is to replace everything else. It's not, this is foundational support to help you function the way your body's designed to function. And, um, there's a. You know, we have a bunch of different things. So there's a 30 day money back if you don't wanna do it. 30 days is a little bit short to see real results in people.
But you know, if you're just like, I can't do this, that's cool. You just, you know, contact the company and they refund you because you know, it's really about how can we help? And we just start [00:38:00] excitingly, we're releasing a new extended methylation panel and you know, I'm always looking at, because we do have 95.
NPS genes that we are looking at. There's a bunch more coming out on, you know, gluten, on procrastination, on thyroid, other systems that are not the foundational systems of your body, but are often things that people wanna know. And I just, I love that there's a solution though. It's not just data that you then have to kind of go, what do I wanna do
Julie Michelson: I have to go spend $3,000 to find somebody who can help me do something about it. So, or the whole like, yeah, it means nothing and it's, you know, so it's, it's exciting and, and it, it's so directly ties into every other conversation I've, we've had on the podcast as far as, you know, this is, [00:39:00] this is, we take control and take our power back.
And, and I love having the spotlight, whether it's to correct or prevent, um, I, it's the, it's the same. So it's amazing. So if somebody wants to know, I know you g you gave us the website already, but if somebody's like, wow, nurse Andy is just the bomb. Where do I, where do they find you?
Andreanna Rainville: Well, I'm andy@snpnutrition.com. Um, and it's, I also, you know, it's been a quite an amazing, we have a YouTube channel. We also, I do a lot of blog posts for, you know, on the SNP nutrition website, you know, water, healthy fats, different things like that. So those are different ways of doing that. And then also, um, I'm Andy Rainville, so you know, that's, I have a website also, and it's just amazing.
And, you know, my whole [00:40:00] goal is always empowerment. I want to help people know you've got this. Because your body is designed to really do well, and if you just kind of find the right little pieces together, no matter where you are right now, it can, it can be better. And, and to remember that and to kind of embrace that and, and so there's more, we're doing all kinds of educational things for both practitioners and, you know, Lay people as well, and and it's just an evolving area that I'm so thrilled to be part of.
Julie Michelson: Well, it is, it's super exciting. It is an amazing time in wellness. Um, I don't even wanna say medicine, like just wellness, right? Because, because again, we can use. This, all of this new information to, to prevent decline. And so, um, I think it's great. I can't wait to to play with it. I have done. [00:41:00] Um, you know, a, a variety of other genetic testing and, but I love this idea because even for me, it's the, then what, right?
It's either you need the software to run it through, or a doctor who knows what it means, or a, and so I love that you're just taking all of, all of the, those needs for the middlemen out and, and just really letting people have that change in their homes.
Andreanna Rainville: Yeah, and well, and you can see there's sample reports that you can download and look at. I mean, it's just the main one, and we really tried to make it user friendly. It's extremely affordable. I mean at currently the testing is only $219, which is a fraction of many of them.
Julie Michelson: Yes. Yeah, it
Andreanna Rainville: you know, and you get like these reports, oh, I've got my little filter.
The reports are, if you can read, you can understand them. Because I'm a nurse and I [00:42:00] came from, I need people to understand what this is about because when people understand, then they can actually be empowered and comply. And then the supplementation is only a, it's if you only order it once, it's 1 69, but you could do subscription and cancel it the next day and it's 1 49 a month, which for what all of that is, is a.
You know, it's not nothing, but it's definitely affordable when you look at all the bottles that you need to support all the different things.
Julie Michelson: Sure. Absolutely. Amazing. Well, nurse Andy, I cannot thank you enough for sharing all of this with us. I, I really think it is changing the conversation. Um, and, and I love that we have this shared goal of empowerment. This is why we do what we do. Um, and so it's been such a pleasure to have you today.
Andreanna Rainville: Uh, it's wonderful to get to talk with you and [00:43:00] thank you for all that you're putting out there and all the people that you're helping. It's, it's just wonderful and you have a fantastic day Also.
Julie Michelson: Thank you, and for everyone listening, remember that you can get the show notes and transcripts, including all of the links to all of the places by visiting inspiredliving.show. I hope you had a great time and enjoyed this episode as much as I did. I'll see you next week.
Nurse Andy shares the advanced testing and custom nutritional [00:01:00] supplementation that's now available to give you the foundational support that your body needs on the genetic level to reverse or prevent symptoms and improve your overall health.
Julie Michelson: Andreanna, welcome to the podcast.
Andreanna Rainville: Thank you so much, Julie, and it's a pleasure to be here with you.
Julie Michelson: I am so looking forward to our conversation today, and I always love to start with story, um, because I think especially what you're doing now, and I know you're not new to this world, but it is so cutting edge. It's like, well, this couldn't have been your goal when you were a little girl. So, um, share a little bit of your journey with us.
Andreanna Rainville: I would love to, so as a new nurse, I, which was, you know, like 24 years ago I got to work in German functional medicine. That was sort of my starting ground, which was different, you know, it was, A lot of [00:02:00] homeopathy, a lot of, um, physics, a lot of philosophy, as well as the basics of looking at, you know, the five levels of healing.
And, and in that opportunity, I got to meet amazing patients. So it really started with necessity. Of people would come in with very intense, complex cases that we really, you know, didn't always know where to start with. And one family in particular was just, ugh, you know, high school sweethearts. Trying to have babies, you know, married, trying to have babies, and they were just having the heck of a time to conceive.
And, you know, we went down the heavy metal track and we went down the mold track and we, you know, we, we kind of went through that deductive reason that all of us do in functional medicine. And were stumped. And you know, we, we got a bit of dental work cleaned up [00:03:00] and toxicity under control, and infections under control.
And they were able to conceive and unfortunately they then lost their baby. And it was a shock, you know, to see an pneumonia problem. And I'd never really. Kind of experienced that and that was really when, you know, that was in early nineties and genomics were very, still barely, we weren't even done with the genome project.
And you know, we were trying to figure out, okay, what is going on with this weird situation? And. It led us into genetics, and so we were kind of going, okay, there's a methylation problem, but even bigger, there's a sulfation problem and okay, let's try this again. So we were trying to sort it out and they got pregnant again, had another child and lost that second child, which is just such a heart wrench.
You know, when you [00:04:00] feel like. You know, this is a dream and, and you're watching it so close and then slip away and, you know, and so we really dug into it on a deeper level and then tied it back to what we knew about, you know, toxicity in particular, and functionality of all the systems in the body work.
And at that point it was really complicated cuz there weren't a lot of people doing it. You know, we had Amy ASCO was kind of coming out in the autism world barely. And Dr. Anderson was doing some stuff and you know, when Lynch hadn't even showed up on the, it, this was like way back when. And so it was trying to look at these huge lists of numbers and letters that, and try to tie it into what does this mean, what can I do with this?
And. It was definitely challenging in the beginning, but they were able to conceive and then have a child and their [00:05:00] child, and then they had three more babies. And so it was that piece where I was like, okay, I don't particularly like this because it's complicated and it's cumbersome, but if we could figure out how to make it easy and if we could figure out how to make it affordable and how to make it, um, Not the doomsday measurement, you know, because so many people got into that
Julie Michelson: Genetics is your destiny, which we know is so not true.
Andreanna Rainville: No, definitely not. And you know, it's not our destiny by any chance because epigenetics, like I'm a big Bruce Lipton, you know, friend and follower as well as like Lynn McTaggart, Rupert Childre. These were people I got to meet in different. Places of work throughout history, and I really believe that we do have the ability to turn things on and off in our body, but sometimes it's easier for some than others, [00:06:00] and we're not really.
The world we live in today is not exactly what we were designed to live in. And so even when people are doing things so right, if you don't know some of those foundational pathways that might be needing more support versus others, it gets very hard to know how to focus your time and energy with epigenetics.
Julie Michelson: I love that. I love that you said that. And I, I think obviously lifestyle wise, there are things that. All of us can and ultimately should be doing, whether we are or not. Um, but I love that, that you're, you know, focusing on. Okay. But some, like, some of us need to pay attention in, you know, specific areas and, and some of us get leeway in those same areas.
Um, um, and so I know you refer to it as your user manual, right? So, um, [00:07:00] what. Like, tell me a little more about the kinds of information and, and how actually usable it is for people.
Andreanna Rainville: Definitely. So a lot of us, you know, humans are complex. You know, we're this beautiful, amazing design that we can't, we can't replicate. Right. You know, it's just such a perfect system and if our bodies have the right, uh, You know, foundational nutrients, if we have the right electrical functionality within our system, if our cognition, our minds is in that right set, you know, if we're right with our clan, things really flow well and it's, you know, only been in the last a hundred or so years that we've seen this huge rise in all these weird chronic illnesses that we're never here for.
Hundreds of thousands of millennia, you know, and
Julie Michelson: Well, I was even thinking you were talking about an [00:08:00] early nineties in autism. I actually taught at Nova Southeastern University's school for autistic children in the, in the nineties. And it was so rare back then and, and I think we had one girl in our class, um, which was. Typical, you know, uh, but it was, it was a, it was a really ra just in my short lifetime, my short actually adulthood the, the 30 years or so I've been an adult.
Um, just the, the rate of all of it. When I was diagnosed with autoimmunity in my thirties, I was ta, you know, oh, you're so young and now, Oh my gosh. You know, the autoimmunity rates and, and peds are, it's insane.
Andreanna Rainville: No, it is. And it, it used to be like, oh, well, were you born with this? If you weren't necessarily born with it, it's probably an acquired situation. Well, now we're seeing [00:09:00] kids come in, born with it. And that's, that's, that's unheard of, you know, that's not a new thing. And you know, so we, we really started trying to go, how can we.
And I love that, you know, there's so much data out there, but data can be overwhelming and especially if it's
Julie Michelson: do you do with it?
Andreanna Rainville: Exactly, you know, uh, well, we would have patients come in with a suitcase full of pills and you're like, okay, if you need an Excel sheet to know when to take your supplements, you're taking too many supplements.
Like, you know, it's, there's no hell that's just gonna fix it. So, You know, I was blessed with lots of folks that had very, besides the wonderful autism community, which has been before autism, it was mostly heavy metal and chronic pain was kind of my focus. But then that led into Lyme disease and then that led into autism and.
Then in the last decade or so, it's really blossomed into a lot of folks that had, [00:10:00] you know, it started off with multiple chemical sensitivity, but then it kind of became mast cell activation and different kinds of, a lot of intolerances and just being shocked at how many debilitating allergies were happening and you know, and kind of.
You know, and I went down the track of trying to chase one gene at a time, and that's just a bad situation. So,
Julie Michelson: That sounds like a Western medicine approach.
Andreanna Rainville: shockingly, well, you know, I am Western
Julie Michelson: That's, I,
Andreanna Rainville: as well, you know,
Julie Michelson: It's maybe it's this thing, this one. Well, and I used to say, You know, we have to look for the root cause, right? In the singular, what's the root cause of your autoimmune? And it's like, oh my gosh. It's never just one thing. Uh, it goes back to that some of it's a bigger factor than others, but it's, it's always more than the one.
And I'm guessing you found it as more than one gene involved.
Andreanna Rainville: [00:11:00] Well, and, and that was a, that was kind of a tricky part too, because you could look at thousands of genes or you could look at what we call actionable genes. I don't wanna look at something, I can't do something about, you know, like, that's just depressing, you know? And, and genes have kind of been, you know, misunderstood and thinking that, oh, It's if you have this one gene, you're destined to have this problem.
And it doesn't really like, there's a small, small percentage that that is true, but most of them are, you can work around them, you could biohack 'em or you could do a bypass and that's where nutrition is so exciting and you know, yet, you know, I can't eat. 10 pounds of broccoli to make my c b S work correctly.
I can't, you know, support certain things just because my lifestyle doesn't allow me to. So when I started working with S N P, I was thrilled that it was focusing only on actionable genes. And [00:12:00] although we test about 95 genes, And I love that, you know, working in pediatrics, if I could not poke a kid, I'm always happy to not, you know, so it's a simple cheek swab where basically you're taking a.
You know, uh, you tip essentially in going inside your mouth on each side, and then you pop it in the mail and about three weeks later you get these wonderful, well, I think they're wonderful cuz I wrote most of 'em with Dr. Price. Like I'm one of the scientific advisors. But we've had the pleasure of getting to work with so many brilliant people that, and it's never ending.
It's like, as we learn more, we wanna make it better. Always. So, What we tried to do is get rid of the 50 bottles of stuff. So you as an individual do your testing. We'd look at the what the SNPs are. SNPs is just a term, it's called single nucleotide polymorphisms. And I think about it, if you're writing and you have a spelling mistake, that's [00:13:00] what a snip is.
You know where a gene is more like you don't have that page in your book that you're writing. So some people. Have these mutations and they change how pathways work. And so what we tried to do is really make it make common sense. How does this affect your inflammation? Because we know that's a key for many, many chronic illnesses.
How does it affect your oxidation? How does it affect your gut health? Those microbiome that we have, you know, more microbiota than cells in our bodies, so we wanna keep them happy too. And your mood, your brain, you know, because if you can't have motivation because your neurotransmitters are off, it's really hard to do the things you need to do to be healthy, you know?
And of course there's other things like heart health and immunity and, and those different parts. And so we broke it into 11 different systems in the body [00:14:00] and actionable genes that are tied to those systems. And the cool part is when you do what we call your core 19 genes, we have technology that takes your results from the laboratory to our manufacturing facility in Texas, and it custom compounds the nutrients to the milligram to support all of those genes, which is kind of a cool, when you think about it, is pretty amazing because.
There's over, you know, 400 million different combinations that can happen. So it's truly precision to you and your needs, and it doesn't end with that. You know, like that's the, that's how, what I call our insurance policy, it's just to support you foundationally. You know, if you catch a flu or a cold, you're going to need support outside of that, but your immune system [00:15:00] should be functioning more optimally because if you have genetics that are directly affecting your immunity, we're supporting those.
And so it, it's pretty exciting in a lot of different ways.
Julie Michelson: So if somebody, this total like just curiosity question. I'm think, oh, and we're, we've. At the peanut gallery chiming it. Um, you know, we do, I we use a lot of testing and, and supplementation where needed, right? Uh, and I'm one of those people who I don't, you know, you hear about all these popular supplements and people jump on the bandwagon, and, and I, I think everything you do should be targeted.
To you. Um, and, and so say somebody is working with a functional medicine doctor and they're getting regular lab work and they've got supplementation prescribed, you know, accordingly,
Andreanna Rainville: Mm-hmm.
Julie Michelson: this, it sounds like would [00:16:00] just work hand in hand that there's not really any big conflict and, and are, are you getting when somebody receives their custom. Um, supplements from you guys is, is obvious. I'm assuming they're, they know what's in there so that they're not taking too much of something or, okay.
Andreanna Rainville: No, exactly. And it's, it's super interesting to me because like we can go off of. Do you know what kind of coq 10 you do better with? You know, do you need ail or aol? Do you need it oxidized? Do, can you get away with either? So that's based on your NQL one gene, you know of what? Form works better for you or also vitamin D.
You know, vitamin D is so critical to so many thousands of different processes, but if you can't absorb it, then you know you in, or you can't convert it or you can't transport it. [00:17:00] Then you need a certain amount of support to make that happen. And that's not just giving vitamin D. There's other, yeah. And more isn't the way to always do that.
You know, sometimes we have to do, you know, and we talk about how red light therapy can happen with that. So not only do we give you, uh, Supplement support, but we also give different kinds of epigenetic ideas. And it's really not that anyone has to do all of them, but it's like sometimes you just need a little bit of motivation onto something new cuz you're in a rut with your epigenetic healthcare program and.
What I like about what we do is we help you focus. Like if you do methylation, great, then great. Your body's got that covered. Let's focus on your inflammatory pathway. And a lot of these, um, SNPs that we measure, we also give a list of what lab work helps to show. Are you expressing it correctly or not? [00:18:00] So that you've got some objective standpoints.
And I always tell people, do your labs beforehand, and then after 120 days of being on your supplementation, retest like a, there's a lot of symptom surveys that we could do subjectively, but.
Julie Michelson: So I think it's always really good. Most important is how you feel. So I love that you said that, you know, that's the goal. My goal is never for anybody to have the most beautiful lab work. I was one of those people when I was at my sickest that they were always like, your labs look great. I'm like, super.
I can barely function. So, um, it's only a piece and, and definitely symptom expression is number one, how we feel. But I am also, I have become such a data geek and it is really nice to track. It's not just nice, I think it's essential, especially whether you're taking supplements or medication or both. Um, or you know, if you're somebody who's, who really doesn't need, I was [00:19:00] laughing when I.
Like, uh, what I, I don't methylate, well, I don't detox well, I have, you know, very overactive inflammatory, but like you name it, um, I would love to be one of those people that could just, you know, not supplement and, and be fine, but I'm thrilled to be off of my prescriptions. So it's like a, so I, I think that that blend, I know it is important to track and to know what's going on in your body.
Andreanna Rainville: For sure. And also that helps us kind of again, focus in more because if you find that you've done foundational support, And yet you're still having glitches in a system, then that means your epi. There's some kind of epigenetic thing that isn't happening to the extent that you need it to happen. And that's, for me, I look at all of this as empowerment.
It's if I know I can't focus on everything, unfortunately as much as I want to, [00:20:00] but if I know where my key factors of. Needing support are, then I don't have to waste the time and energy on the things that my body does well. I can really focus in on, hey, you've got this gut issue that you need to get fixed.
And then when you do that, all these other systems fall into place because like Genes, everything interconnects and you know, it's, it's, we have to have this symbiosis and support it. And to be able to see it in actuality, like for a lot of people, oh, hey wait, you have this genetic, that means that gluten's just not even in, even in Italy, it's not gonna be great for you.
You know, it's so, it's like it helps us to understand, or maybe you just need more enzymes to break it down because of X, Y, and Z that's happening in your [00:21:00] body. Or if you detoxed a little bit more because. You don't have the right genes to do your detoxification. And we live on planet Earth, so it, you know, you breathe wa you, I love it when people come in and they're like, no, I have a really clean diet.
And I'm like, that's great. Do you use water? Do you breathe there? And I don't. We're getting ready for forest time, forest fires, and I mean, I'm blown away how people's heavy metals always go up. When as the fires happen, you know, and, and they're not doing anything other than breathing the air and even filtered breath, you know?
So trying to really help people see this is, this is just to empower you and give you foundational support. And like we were talking about with your, you know, we are inviting, we would love. More and more functional providers to join our teams because we are doing ongoing research and working with, you know, the different systems of the body and helping to support people [00:22:00] because it's really about, I want a healthy world to live in.
And, and when people don't feel well, they don't always act their true self. And I just wanna see everybody blossom into. The light that they all are and, and really be able to have the energy, like, I need energy to run. I have, um, I have three grandchildren and they're, they're exhausting, you know, so you gotta like keep up.
And I, you know, and I also had, I had a child late in life and so I have a 14 year old too. And
Julie Michelson: Wow.
Andreanna Rainville: you know, we've,
Julie Michelson: Busy lady.
Andreanna Rainville: Just a lot of interest in the world going on, and so it's like, I don't want to live to be a hundred and, you know, just enjoy the nursing home. I wanna be like having them, trying to keep up beach combing and making, you know, art and, and living a full life.
Julie Michelson: health span, right? It's not about being old. It's about, I, I [00:23:00] had said, and I'm like, oh, that was maybe the best thing that ever came outta my mouth on this podcast was I, or actually it might have been on somebody else's podcast that I said it. At first. Um, but, you know, I wanna, I wanna live young until I'm done.
Like, period. That's the, I've already been in that other place where I didn't like have the ability, the energy, the, you know, to, to do the things. Um, and now that's all I wanna do. I wanna do the things. So I love, and I love, so we're, we're talking about it through this lens of, of course, autoimmunity.
Chronic illness, all the things, right? Whether it's toxicity, autism, you just pick one there. It's all rampant, right? And it's all chronic inflammation conditions, or all conditions driven by chronic inflammation. So we could throw Alzheimer's and dementia in that pool as well. Um,
Andreanna Rainville: Well, type three diabetes is what they're calling it [00:24:00] now. And so if we can look at how and I, and it's amazing how much mitochondrial dysfunction has blown up in the last
Julie Michelson: Oh, it's huge. It's
Andreanna Rainville: compared, you know, I didn't see that before. And so if we can look at. How do you tend to do on a mitochondrial level?
Can you make a t p? Just like if you can't make gasoline, it's really hard to do all the work we have to do. And you know, and so it, it, but if you do have a little glitch there, that's the joy. Nutrigenomics is amazing because it's just blowing up in how can we use different kinds of nutrients that we can't necessarily get, cuz we're not gardening, we're not, well, we're not doing it as much as we used to.
Julie Michelson: Well, and even if we are, you know, soil's depleted and, and,
Andreanna Rainville: Yeah, well it's kind of amazing how it's evolving though. And so if you could focus in on how do I support these factors? And I know that, okay, when I start [00:25:00] to feel a little bit worn down, what's my sleep doing? You know, am I doing the different genetic epigenetic support measures so that I can blossom, you know, do what my body's meant to do?
And it's amazing how. Given the right circumstances, given the right nutrients, given the right mineral, like mineral depletion we're, if we're talking about soil depletion, I can't. I used to go to, um, Boulder Fest with Robert Cran in Colorado, a lot of Finn V in, we, you know, 20 years ago we were talking about how horribly depleted the soil was from, you know, comparative to a hundred years before, and.
You know, and we're trying to get, you know, luckily there's a lot of people doing something about it. You know, we've got, Paul Stamets has done some amazing things with, you know, using mycelium to support it. So I always try to find [00:26:00] the
Julie Michelson: Right. It's not doom and gloom. And that was actually where, what I wanted to touch on we're, we're talking about using ne nutrigenomics to. In essence, help fix, right? We're, we're, you know, generally my audience is already symptomatic where they were, and so we're looking at a correction, right? Switching something off that we've already switched on and we want to change that.
But the beautiful thing is you can totally use it for prevention as well. A and that's the truly it. It's b I was gonna say, that's the truly exciting part. It's exciting on, on both levels. Um, you know, this whole idea, oh my gosh. Imagine the body can heal. Even once it's exhibited all of these other, all of these symptoms, um, and seeming decline.
But to, to be able to get that information that you said, you know, is it is power, um, a and just say, okay, [00:27:00] this is my potential and so I know I really wanna focus on X, Y, and Z so that I don't ever exhibit any of those things and I don't end up with a label.
Andreanna Rainville: Yes. And you know, even our, our founder was, Is an amazing human. And you know, went for 10 years with an autoimmune disorder that was never diagnosed, you know, and just kept telling, being told, oh, it's, you know, probably a Prozac deficiency.
Julie Michelson: in your head. Yep.
Andreanna Rainville: yeah. And it's like, Nope, it's never a Prozac deficiency ever.
Julie Michelson: No.
Andreanna Rainville: And we may need those tools to help us get to a point where we can kind of function in another way while we're building other parts. But it was amazing when she actually started, you know, Being on her custom compound, you know, her, her lab work, balanced out. Her doctor was able to see, oh wait, you do have, you know, four different, um, [00:28:00] inflammation genes, you know, your c r p, your interleukin sips, your tumor necrosis, alpha.
Like these are things we can see in labs also. So if genetically they're not working, we could use those labs to see, well, how, how is, whatever I'm doing. Functionally helping me through this glitch. And you know, and then a dear, dear, another person who actually introduced me was a mass cell patient who had been, you know, like it was not an uncommon thing.
I'm like talking to the ER docs like, don't do that. She's gonna crash on you. You don't do that. You know, and so, you know, to watch these beautiful women be able to. You know, take trips with their families, you know, have more freedom. Like, can you eat everything all the time? No, but can you have a party and, and survive it without weeks of being bedridden and pain and agony afterwards.
Yes. And, [00:29:00] and that was just so inspiring and, and to really kind of see this heartfelt movement of how can we make this easy? How can we make it accessible? How can we make it affordable because, You know, it's, it's expensive to be ill, like I'm shocked anymore. It,
Julie Michelson: Well,
Andreanna Rainville: I love things. It's like,
Julie Michelson: The, the story we all need to flip. People will say, you know, it's expensive to test, it's expensive to take supplements. Oh, it is really expensive to be ill. It's, you know, I mean, I went through a phase where I couldn't work. It's expensive,
Andreanna Rainville: yeah, well, and, and emotionally expensive and you know, to your family. I. You know, just in not being able to do the things that we are meant, you know, we're this gift of life is not to just sur survive and so
Julie Michelson: not supposed to just exist
Andreanna Rainville: no. And so,
Julie Michelson: live.
Andreanna Rainville: Yeah. In that full, whatever that means to people, you know? And, and it's super exciting to see [00:30:00] the evolution of wait, you know, we have answers.
More and more answers are coming to us all the time. And to help. And many times we have to help our healthcare practitioners. Like there's a lot of great healthcare practitioners, but all of us are sort of trained to look at what's wrong. Instead of what's right. And, and, and we can, you know, as we all collaborate, we keep bringing in, Hey, these are new ways we can measure things.
These are new ways we can support things. And it's an ongoing, um, Experiment together. And I think that my patients have always been my biggest teachers. Y you know, I've been blessed to work with amazing practitioners all over the world, but really it's the patients that help you see what actually works.
Yeah. And you know, and we're not, and you know, I loved working with kids cuz kids are not really like, they're not entrenched in [00:31:00] what they know. Filter and. You know, placebo doesn't work so well on them. So it's like they're happy to let you know I feel good or I don't feel good. But they're also easy to kind of help drift back into that wellness model.
And so, you know, now being able to do that for more because I'm always like, mom doesn't feel good. It's really hard for the household to feel good. So let's, you know, amp dad too. I mean, it's not to same one or the other, but we all have to kind of, you know, Take that health responsibility of how am I going to live as healthy as possible for myself and those around me?
Julie Michelson: Well, and what I so love about this is, is the individualization and personalization, customization. People say that to me all the time. Well, just tell me what to eat. Right. Or tell me what to, you know, how did you heal? Tell, and I'm like, so take a family. Yes, we have, we share some genetics, but there are going to be [00:32:00] differences.
And, and so to, again, that knowledge is power and oh my gosh, the gold of being able to know from the time your children are young.
Andreanna Rainville: Mm-hmm.
Julie Michelson: support they need to avoid where most so many of us either are or have been over the last decade or so, um, with chronic illness is, is, you know, just, it, it's so empowering and as a, as a mother, and we tease all the time.
My, my oldest is Celiac and you know, I used to feed him saltines, but way back when, like, who knew, you know, and who.
Andreanna Rainville: BRAT
Julie Michelson: Oh, wheat bread. You were trying to kill me, you know, holy wheat bread and, and so, you know, just the, there are so many tools available now. The not that I'm, you know, wanting to have more children in my fifties right now, um, but I would definitely do some things differently and my kids get to do things differently for their children.
And [00:33:00] that's the, that's why we do what we do. It's, you know, just changing the, the generational story of wellness, uh, is so much fun. So what is a step that, that people can take today to just. No.
Andreanna Rainville: what's kind of nice is we've put the power into everybody's hands. So you can either work with a practitioner who does use s np Nutrigenomics, or you can simply go to np. It's S N I P. And then nutrigenomics and.com and you can order your own test kit. And it's really simple. Like I said, you get a envelope, comes to you, you do a cheek swap, you drop it in the mail, and it's, there's a, you know, postage pre-addressed thing.
So there's no shipping fees or anything. It's not like some lab samples where you have to refrigerate it or freeze it or do [00:34:00] anything. It's, it's more like a paternity test. So you swab and you send it off. And what's kind of cool is we never sell any of your data. Some people are worried about that cuz there are some companies that do that.
And you become, so you, you get a number and you create an online portal on your internet and the lab receives. Only what your sex is, because that's kind of, you know, XS and Y is important and so, and that's what you were born with, not necessarily what you identify with. And so although we respect that, it, it does kind of mess up your genetic testing.
So you have to be whatever you were born with is what you list. And then in about three weeks, you will get an email that is all of your beautiful reports and you get 11 different reports. On all of the different health systems and then you get what we call your code complexer part. And I always recommend people, you could [00:35:00] either do powder or a pill.
I kind of like a powder cuz I could just mix it in with my juice or my tea or my
Julie Michelson: person because
Andreanna Rainville: And it's whatever your preference, whatever preference is. And what's kind of exciting is that, and everyone's like, well, what does it taste like? And you're like, well, mine tastes different than yours. And so I don't know what your salt tastes like.
Um, but we do, um, everything is third party tested, so we do organic wherever we can. There are, you know, different kinds of vitamins and minerals and different kinds of herbs and nutrients that are all in it. And what's kind of fun is there's like specific boosts is what we call them. So let's say you have the C R P gene, which is an inflammatory gene.
If you have one mutation versus two, you get a different amount of nutrients. And so it custom compounds that out to you and it takes about 10 days from when your test is done to [00:36:00] get your. A little bottle shows up at your house and it's got your name on it and it's your special mix. And so, and then you know, you start, like I said, I always like people to do the labs according to the system that they're concerned about.
Cuz you might be concerned about autoimmunity and someone else might be concerned about heart health. So we've written down a whole list of these are the common labs to monitor, you know,
Julie Michelson: Or you can be like me and do full panels.
Andreanna Rainville: Well, and,
Julie Michelson: like to look at all of it.
Andreanna Rainville: there are many full panels and so, and it's just a course of recommendation list, but it's, it's that way.
And then we know that 120 days is a cell cycle, so most people are gonna drastically feel a change within that. But your genetics don't change. So like, these are things until you get your epigenetic world. Perfect. This is the support for those things that aren't quite, [00:37:00] you know, going the way they could be going.
And I, I always tell people, this is your multivitamin and you know, but it's gonna have your methylated bs. It's gonna have your coq tens, it's gonna have your vitamin D, your vitamin K, you know, your basic functional nutrients that humans need to function well. Now if you're on a medication that depletes magnesium and b6, which most of 'em do, you might need a little extra, add it into that.
So it's not to say this is to replace everything else. It's not, this is foundational support to help you function the way your body's designed to function. And, um, there's a. You know, we have a bunch of different things. So there's a 30 day money back if you don't wanna do it. 30 days is a little bit short to see real results in people.
But you know, if you're just like, I can't do this, that's cool. You just, you know, contact the company and they refund you because you know, it's really about how can we help? And we just start [00:38:00] excitingly, we're releasing a new extended methylation panel and you know, I'm always looking at, because we do have 95.
NPS genes that we are looking at. There's a bunch more coming out on, you know, gluten, on procrastination, on thyroid, other systems that are not the foundational systems of your body, but are often things that people wanna know. And I just, I love that there's a solution though. It's not just data that you then have to kind of go, what do I wanna do
Julie Michelson: I have to go spend $3,000 to find somebody who can help me do something about it. So, or the whole like, yeah, it means nothing and it's, you know, so it's, it's exciting and, and it, it's so directly ties into every other conversation I've, we've had on the podcast as far as, you know, this is, [00:39:00] this is, we take control and take our power back.
And, and I love having the spotlight, whether it's to correct or prevent, um, I, it's the, it's the same. So it's amazing. So if somebody wants to know, I know you g you gave us the website already, but if somebody's like, wow, nurse Andy is just the bomb. Where do I, where do they find you?
Andreanna Rainville: Well, I'm andy@snpnutrition.com. Um, and it's, I also, you know, it's been a quite an amazing, we have a YouTube channel. We also, I do a lot of blog posts for, you know, on the SNP nutrition website, you know, water, healthy fats, different things like that. So those are different ways of doing that. And then also, um, I'm Andy Rainville, so you know, that's, I have a website also, and it's just amazing.
And, you know, my whole [00:40:00] goal is always empowerment. I want to help people know you've got this. Because your body is designed to really do well, and if you just kind of find the right little pieces together, no matter where you are right now, it can, it can be better. And, and to remember that and to kind of embrace that and, and so there's more, we're doing all kinds of educational things for both practitioners and, you know, Lay people as well, and and it's just an evolving area that I'm so thrilled to be part of.
Julie Michelson: Well, it is, it's super exciting. It is an amazing time in wellness. Um, I don't even wanna say medicine, like just wellness, right? Because, because again, we can use. This, all of this new information to, to prevent decline. And so, um, I think it's great. I can't wait to to play with it. I have done. [00:41:00] Um, you know, a, a variety of other genetic testing and, but I love this idea because even for me, it's the, then what, right?
It's either you need the software to run it through, or a doctor who knows what it means, or a, and so I love that you're just taking all of, all of the, those needs for the middlemen out and, and just really letting people have that change in their homes.
Andreanna Rainville: Yeah, and well, and you can see there's sample reports that you can download and look at. I mean, it's just the main one, and we really tried to make it user friendly. It's extremely affordable. I mean at currently the testing is only $219, which is a fraction of many of them.
Julie Michelson: Yes. Yeah, it
Andreanna Rainville: you know, and you get like these reports, oh, I've got my little filter.
The reports are, if you can read, you can understand them. Because I'm a nurse and I [00:42:00] came from, I need people to understand what this is about because when people understand, then they can actually be empowered and comply. And then the supplementation is only a, it's if you only order it once, it's 1 69, but you could do subscription and cancel it the next day and it's 1 49 a month, which for what all of that is, is a.
You know, it's not nothing, but it's definitely affordable when you look at all the bottles that you need to support all the different things.
Julie Michelson: Sure. Absolutely. Amazing. Well, nurse Andy, I cannot thank you enough for sharing all of this with us. I, I really think it is changing the conversation. Um, and, and I love that we have this shared goal of empowerment. This is why we do what we do. Um, and so it's been such a pleasure to have you today.
Andreanna Rainville: Uh, it's wonderful to get to talk with you and [00:43:00] thank you for all that you're putting out there and all the people that you're helping. It's, it's just wonderful and you have a fantastic day Also.
Julie Michelson: Thank you, and for everyone listening, remember that you can get the show notes and transcripts, including all of the links to all of the places by visiting inspiredliving.show. I hope you had a great time and enjoyed this episode as much as I did. I'll see you next week.
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Andreanna Rainville (“Nurse Andi”), RN, NC, is a registered nurse and nutritional counselor, respected lecturer, instructor, and practitioner focusing on issues of genetics and methylation evaluation and support, nutraceutical medicine, diet therapy, immunotherapy, chronic illness and infection, detoxification, fertility, mold, pain management, and pediatrics.
Raised on Kauai, Hawaii’s “garden island,” Rainville has a lifelong curiosity for and connection to plant- and nature-based health and wellness practices, serving individuals in all stages of human development.
Rainville’s life’s passion is empowering people to envision multiple choices for wellness. In addition to her work as Scientific Advisor for SNiP Nutrigenomics, Rainville maintains a private clinical practice in Kenmore, WA.
Rainville is also a wife and mother to a 13-year-old child, Aqua, whom Rainville calls her “…source of never-ending learning and love.”
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