Episode 80
Susan Bratton:
Intimacy at Any Age: Find Your Path to Great Pleasure
In this episode we a shaking things up! Susan Bratton, intimacy expert to millions, joins us and we are talking all things sexual health and pleasure. This episode is for everyone! You don't want to miss this!
First Aired on: Mar 27, 2023
Episode 80
Susan Bratton:
Intimacy at Any Age: Find Your Path to Great Pleasure
In this episode we a shaking things up! Susan Bratton, intimacy expert to millions, joins us and we are talking all things sexual health and pleasure. This episode is for everyone! You don't want to miss this!
First Aired on: Mar 27, 2023
Table of Contents:
In this episode:
Susan Bratton is a Silicon Valley dynamo turned intimacy expert to millions, having helped countless couples reignite their sex lives through her teachings on pleasure, communication, libido, and orgasm. She is an advocate for female sexual empowerment and believes that it is never too late to pursue and expand one's sexuality.
11 years into her marriage, and without orgasm for 12 years, Susan Bratton embarked on a journey of sexual re-discovery with her husband that led her to uncover the secrets of female pleasure. empowering her with the skills she needs to bridge the 'Gasm Chasm'.
Susan Bratton and her husband, a successful Silicon Valley couple, had been married for 11 years. On their anniversary, Susan revealed that she had never had an orgasm during intercourse and her husband had been having affairs to compensate. Seeking to fix the problem, they began attending sex workshops, learning the skills they needed to close the orgasm gap, AKA the "Gasm Chasm"
After a decade of personal growth, they set up a publishing company to share their learned skills with the world, Personal Life Media, Inc. With a newfound understanding of each other and their bodies, they are now on an upward pleasure spiral, and have been for many years.
Susan wants everyone to know that orgasm is a learned skill (for women) and every woman can have them.
No more "man style sex."
You are not broken!
Move beyond the fear, shame and guilt associated with sex and explore self-love and pleasure.
Discover the power of nutrition, exercise and hormone balancing to improve sex life and overall vitality.
Susan shares the power that doing an elimination diet had for her! No more gluten, no more dairy, and no more embarrassing butt rash!
Susan's brand of sex:
Heart-connected
Conscious/Present
Passionate
Lovemaking
This is where the pleasure is!
The foundational essentials for overall health and wellness are the same for sexual health and pleasure!
Supplementation
Treatment options
Toys
Playdates instead of sex dates!
Susan's Gift:
sexlifebucketlist.com
48 playdate ideas.
Give up gluten - get your inflammation down to feel your best!
Susan also agreed to come back for another episode to discuss Orgasmic Cross-training!
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Episode Transcript
Julie Michelson: [Page//00:00:00] Welcome back to The Inspired Living with Autoimmunity podcast. I'm your host, Julie Michaelson, and today we're joined by intimacy expert to millions, Susan Bratton. Susan is the co-founder and CEO of two corporations, personal life media. She's a publisher of heart connected lovemaking techniques and bedroom communication skills, and the 20 L L C, a manufacturer of organic and botanical supplements that [Page//00:01:00] enhance vitality.
Today we're talking about the essential foundations for sexual health and intimacy and overall wellness. Susan shares her journey and her expertise with us and her openness leads to some spicy conversation.
Susan, welcome to the podcast.
Susan Bratton: Julie, you know, I'm so happy to be here. You and I have known each other for a few years now, and so it's finally time for us to get together and talk about some juicy stuff, and I'm looking forward to it. I, I can't even imagine what you're gonna ask me, so I'm just excited to be here.
Julie Michelson: Well, I have so many possibilities, so it's gonna be so much fun and such a treat. For, for listeners, because this is definitely a different kind of episode, we are really not gonna talk about gluten today. Um,
Susan Bratton: good cuz I don't eat any,
Julie Michelson: we, I don't either, but and now that we've established that, we have much juicier things to, to dig into.
And as you know, I said before I hit record, I've been [Page//00:02:00] a, a, a big fan. I love what you're doing. I know.
Susan Bratton: Thank you.
Julie Michelson: How important it is, um, for, for all of us for wellness at, at any age. Um, but you're just such a, a bright shining light. And I, the one piece I don't know is, you know, how did you become the intimacy expert to millions?
Like how, how does that happen?
Susan Bratton: Yeah, I know. It's so funny. Well, it's really my second career because I'm in my sixties now and I've been doing this for a couple decades. Um, and it's my second career. What happened was my husband and I were very, very successful. Silicon Valley couple at in the internet, web 1.0, the beginning of the internet.
And we'd been married for 11 years and on our anniversary evening, I had two gin martinis and I said, babe, we're like [Page//00:03:00] platonic. We're not connected. This is no good. And he said, yeah, um, it's, I don't know what we should do here. We're so disconnected. And what had happened, in all honesty, hindsight 2020, was that I had been, um, having sex with my husband for a dozen years, and by sex, I mean intercourse, and I had never had an orgasm. and you know, you can only tell yourself for so long that it's nice to be close to each other and blah, blah, blah. But if you are not really having the same level of experience as your male bodied partner, you become resentful. And I had gotten to the point where I would th I could think of a million things, a million reasons why I couldn't have sex with my husband.
I just didn't wanna do it anymore. And so he had tried to compensate by having an affair. He had had serial affairs, and I didn't even know that at the time. [Page//00:04:00] He'd hid it so well. He was trying to compensate for having a sexless, being in a sexless marriage, but loving me and loving our daughter and loving our life.
But over time, he emotionally really checked out of the relationship. And so I was like, what, what are we even doing here? This is not my idea of marriage. And he's like, this is not my idea of marriage either. . So we went to, uh, some therapists and. You know, I had had a lot of abuse from my stepfather as a child.
Sexual abuse. I had a lot of trauma from that, and I, I also had a childhood that was, um, very insecurely attached. My parents were doing the best they could do, the gentle and delicate souls they were. And, uh, often I was taking care of them. They weren't taking care of me. And so the combination of the sexual trauma, the divorces, the instability, I just really had never learned how to love [Page//00:05:00] fully.
I had a guarded heart with my husband, and we did not know how to have satisfying sex together for. . And so we said, we gotta fix this stuff. So I did therapy to really kind of move through the trauma and get to forgiveness and understanding and remember who I was before these things happened to me, how to stay present during love making and not dissociate.
And we also started taking sex workshops. We also did a lot of personal growth. We did Tony Robbins, we walked on fire, we did all kinds of things to really grow up. And we were in our early forties at the time. And a lot of people think to themselves, oh God, by the time I'm 40, my sex life will be over.
When you're young, you think that's old. You know? And when you're old, you look at that and you're like, I was, we were such
Julie Michelson: I didn't know anything. Yeah,
Susan Bratton: didn't know anything. We didn't know anything. And we saw. our friends marriages dropping like flies. We saw them all getting divorced and we knew it wasn't money.
Cause we [Page//00:06:00] were all doing very well in the Silicon Valley. We all had jobs, it was sex for sure. So we started going to these sexuality workshops because we're the kind of people who are like, if it's broken, let's fix it. We can figure it out. We believe we can learn anything and figure anything out. And we were really committed to staying together because I, I told him, I love you.
I could never do better than you. And he's like, I feel the same. We just have to fix this problem. We started going to sex workshops and it was, I mean, Juliet, it was nearly instantaneous. We started getting the skills we needed to do what I now call crossing the gam chasm, closing the orgasm gap that Dr.
Lori Mintz so eloquently defined in her TED talk about how easy it is for our male bodied partners to have satisfying climaxes from intercourse and how difficult it seems to be for women to achieve it. Well, it turns out that all it is is a learned skill. All women can have, [Page//00:07:00] not only orgasms from intercourse without even touching the tip of the clitoris, but you can learn 20 different kinds of orgasm techniques.
And so when we realized how easy it was, my husband and I, both being tech people, said, oh my God, who's gonna get naked? Spend five grand and go to a sex workshop? Hardly anybody, but who's gonna just us, but who's going to digitally download audios, videos, and eBooks online from anywhere in the world to have kind of like a workshop and a box, couples learning program, and even singles learning programs, techniques and things like that.
Pretty much anybody, anybody that's a sexual seeker that cares about their sex life, which is not everybody by the way, but lots and lots of people. And it comes down to the fact that. Number one, we're taught about, uh, in, when what we're taught about sex is pro procreation, uh, STIs, things like that. Some minimal
Julie Michelson: you[Page//00:08:00]
Susan Bratton: Right. It's mostly scare tactics. Exactly. Um, it'll scare you off of wanting sex. And then there's all the religious repression, shame, guilt, you know, all of those kinds of things. Then there's the just no good models. There's porn and movies and they're both terrible at depicting the kind of sex that especially us female bodied people need to have.
So, um, when we realized how easy it was, we said, and we fell in love with each other. Our sex life was on fire. We rekindled everything we've had. We just went through this incredible renaissance in our relationship. I finally had the kind of satisfying sex that I had wondered if people were just faking or lying.
I can remember feeling these paranoid feelings, like, what if people are just lying about it and it's not even true? It's true. If you are one of those people who hasn't yet had the kind of sex that feels, oh God, effortless. You're confident you don't have performance anxiety. [Page//00:09:00] You know, your body will give you incredibly satisfying experiences.
You feel like you're good at being pleasured and pleasuring. You can drop in. Your heart is open, you're connected to your partner. You're looking forward to the next date you have with them. Um, when you get to that point, it's really a foundation of learned skills that get you there. Well, who, where do you learn those?
That's what we decided to do, was start basically a publishing company, publishing the work of many of the teachers whose workshops we went to, and then over the last two decades of me just learning everything about. Female and male pleasure and tr. What I really think I do well is I actually explain to guys what their female bodied partners need.
Explain to women what their bodies need. Let women know that there's nothing wrong with them. They're not broken. [Page//00:10:00] It's not their libido, except in the cases where it is, which is because of poor health. Because your health and your libido are two sides of the same coin. If you don't feel well, you don't have a libido.
So that's really about energy, nutrition, exercise, hormone balancing, all those things. But it's not. Just your hormones. And a big part of why in menopause, especially women go through this time when they're like, I just have no libido. It's partly because we have had mitochondrial decline. We've had hormone loss, we've had loss of nitric oxide, we have inflammation.
We have athero atherosclerosis, we have cognitive function dysfunction from often gluten, we
Julie Michelson: That a girl,
Susan Bratton: all of these things that have kind of piled, they've piled up and they've layered on and they've taken us down. But add to it the fact that for most of [Page//00:11:00] us, We've been having sex at the pace of our male bodied partners.
We've been having man style sex and it doesn't serve us. And so if there's one thing that I want to do in this world, it's explain to men how to make love to women the way we need it done, and to explain to women that they're not broken. They can orgasm from intercourse, from all kinds of things, and that they are simply learned skills, but that we have a much slower arousal ladder.
We're not. Instantly horny. We're not always turned on. We're not driven to masturbate every day. Like our male body partners, we don't get an erection in two minutes. We get an erection in 20 minutes. It's as important for us to have an erection as our male bodied partners. We've been having sex without being fully erect our almost our entire lives most of the time.
So these are the things [Page//00:12:00] that once women hear them, they're like, what? Oh my God, I thought it was me. This is what we do. We think it's us. We don't understand. There's nothing wrong with us. So when I get women empowered with the knowledge and the techniques, And the understanding that they have a libido, they have desire, they have arousal.
There are different things. How to unlock them. What what we need. Boy, women, just our forties are the, honestly, the best, best time to begin pursuing and expanding our sexuality to move into our female sexual empowerment. To take things into our own hands and say, this is what I'm gonna need. Le a, actually, my husband and I, we have this little hash, we've had hashtags before.
The hashtag was even a hashtag. Um, we call ourselves team sweetie. He stopped feeling victimized. He stopped feeling like [Page//00:13:00] rejected. Shut down. He stopped offering me sex. He started in offering me things that we call small offers. Tiny little things we can say yes to. To get us to the point where our male bodied partners already are Ha, knowing that we just don't walk around in the world 99% of the time at the horniness level of our male bodied partners, and that it's nothing to do with us and our desire for our partner.
W so many women say, I want to want him, but I don't.
Julie Michelson: Yes.
Susan Bratton: Oh my God, if I had a nickel for every time I heard that. Right. So
Julie Michelson: I love that, that you shared, you know, that you went all those years and, and didn't have an or. I, I've seen so many women heard, so many women say, I've never had an orgasm. And, and a lot even alone, they forget with a partner, you know, they, and they think they're broken or they're just not made [Page//00:14:00] that way or,
Susan Bratton: That's what we do. We take it on ourselves. It has to be us. We have to be broken. We're different. And it's like, uh, girl, you are the same as all the rest of us. You got all the same parts. We just gotta get 'em going. And that's why Engorgement. Is literally the Rosetta Stone to all of the orgasms that you can possibly have.
And then when you know that, when you understand that actually the thing that's gonna help you do what I call crossing the gasm chasm, closing that orgasm gap, making it as easy for you to have orgasms from intercourse, from oral, from kissing, from breast play, from using your toys, from all these different stimulatory experiences, as soon as you start to come, you start to come better and better and better.
And then you start to come in new ways. Then you're confident. You've got body confidence, you know your body can perform and respond and things just get on what I like to call the [Page//00:15:00] upward pleasure spiral. They get better and better over time instead of swirling down the toilet like most of our sex lives do.
When we don't know there's nothing wrong with us and that all we need is the right stimulation at the right time.
Julie Michelson: Wow. Okay. We're done. No, I'm kidding.
Susan Bratton: Oh, that was my mic drop. No, I got more. I got more. Julie
Julie Michelson: I know you do. Have to, you know, for people that aren't familiar with you, the, the, just the fact that you're in your sixties blows me away because your, your energy and beauty just exudes and, and so, you know, some things do get, get better with age for sure. Um, but, uh, you know, whether you're in your forties or you're in your fifties or you're in, I mean, it doesn't matter.
It's an, it's, it's just like reversing autoimmunity. It's never too late. Like, don't hold the attitude like, I've made it this far without an orgasm or without, you know, truly good sex. And that's [Page//00:16:00] fine. Um, you know, because it, it just can get better and better and better. And, and seeing you with your husband is, is just always so inspiring.
And you two are so adorable.
Susan Bratton: You know what helped me a lot? A decade ago was, you know, cause it was 42 when I started exploring my sexuality. But by the time I was 50, I was having trouble even walking up the stairs. I was so exhausted, my knees ached, my joints ached. I, I just was not, I, I thought, my god, I'm getting old. And um, I went to my doctor, who's still my doctor today, and he said, you know, I wanna do an elimination diet on
Julie Michelson: Mm-hmm.
Susan Bratton: I want you to give up dairy, corn, soy, peanuts, eggs, and wheat. Just stop eating those things for the next couple weeks. And then slowly I want you to add them back in.
Julie Michelson: yeah.
Susan Bratton: And within two weeks I felt better. And as soon as I added gluten in, my [Page//00:17:00] joints started aching
Julie Michelson: Mm-hmm.
Susan Bratton: Within a couple of months of not eating gluten anymore, I'd had this rash on my butt.
That always embarrassed me from my thirties. I had right on each side of my butt crack kind of right on my butt. I had what looked like little, little red bumps and I, I mean, I tried topicals, I tried all kinds of things. I could never get rid of it. Low and behold, within a month of stopping gluten, my butt had no more bumps, and
Julie Michelson: Nest, it got beautiful Butt
Susan Bratton: That was, I mean, and you know, pa part of great sex is feeling great naked and not being embarrassed. And I'll tell you, that really helped me reverse my aging in my fifties so that I could sail into my sixties so much stronger. The bummer was I got covid [Page//00:18:00] three times, and the first time I got it really early on, I had the worst long haul.
It took me years to get over it. So I'm still, I literally am still growing my hair back from
Julie Michelson: Yes. You and every other woman,
Susan Bratton: I've been doing p r p, that's been great. I've been doing the, um, hair lift and I've been doing the p r p on my face, but I also had a face. Just about three months ago. Um, because when I started getting better from Covid, I said, I've gotta get back and start working out, because I know that when I work out, I've, I, I just have more libido, more energy, more vitality.
I feel prettier, I feel sexier. I, I, my sex is better, I've got more stamina. I, I have the energy at night to have sex, you know, all those things. And, uh, I, I lost like 25 pounds. I was, I was skinny fat. I was like, I don't know what, I didn't have any muscle. By the time I got through all that long haul [Page//00:19:00] and I lost 25 pounds and it's 61, I was like, oh, my face isn't gonna suck itself back.
So I got it trimmed off and that really helped a
Julie Michelson: They did a beautiful job. It looks, you look amazing. It's so
Susan Bratton: a, I had one at 50.
Julie Michelson: Okay.
Susan Bratton: and then I had one at 61. My mom did too. She had, she had two facelifts and she's 85 now, and she's still beautiful. Um, she had two facelifts about 15 years apart, and that's what made me know that that was an okay thing to do and that it, you know, that it, that it would work well for me.
Like it worked well for her. Um, and so I think the, now I'm getting back on my feet again, starting to work out again, and my energy's starting to go up again. I've been having to rest from getting back after
Julie Michelson: you have to be careful. Yeah.
Susan Bratton: to get back going again with my exercise routine,
Julie Michelson: Yeah.
Susan Bratton: because when you redo it, oh God, you, it has to remodel your whole face.
I mean, you can feel [Page//00:20:00] the tissue kind of having to grow back in, you know, it's, it's pretty incredible the, the, the, but this is
Julie Michelson: The body's amazing.
Susan Bratton: That's just the point I'm I'm making, which is I recovered from gluten, I recovered from Covid. You, I always feel like it's just maintenance, maintenance, maintenance, maintenance.
You gotta nip everything in the bud. You gotta keep coming back to your clean eating, your movement, your, you know, you just have to, this is what you have to do to live a vital life. So it's, there's, I'm not glowing because of orgasm power. I'm glowing because of orgasm power,
Julie Michelson: And
Susan Bratton: exercise, plus good nutrition.
Exactly.
Julie Michelson: I love that. I, I, that's, it's amazing. And you know, listeners are probably rolling eyes, like really? So we are talking about diet and movement, stress management Yes. And inflammation. And you mentioned a big one. Hormones. Um, you know, I, I, I had a complete [Page//00:21:00] hysterectomy three years ago with an oophorectomy.
Um, and so, you know, that ovaries out and so, you know, went from, you know, not menopausal to boom, you know, menopausal,
Susan Bratton: are you doing bioidenticals?
Julie Michelson: absolutely. Uh, uh, I mean, uh, you name it, no, I mean, , estradiol, estradiol, testosterone, progesterone, I mean, I, I. I have a great hormone doc. I, and, and used to joke, um, cuz I was estrogen dominant, didn't know it until I found functional medicine.
And so back when I was still cycling and he added in some progesterone for me it was life changing. And I used to say all the time, like, oh, I'm so glad I don't have to go through menopause without you. I had no idea how soon I would be going through it. But I that if you're managing, and these are, you know, we're talking about it regarding [Page//00:22:00] intimacy, but same thing, energy, you know, all skin organs.
I mean, it's, when we lose our hormones, our body is getting signals like it's time to be done. And so, you know, osteoporosis, loose skin, all, all yeah. All of all the things. Yeah.
Susan Bratton: muscle loss.
Julie Michelson: we need. Good hormone health and balance to stay young and f you know, for me to feel better in my fifties than I did in my forties, and you to feel better in your sixties, but, you know, it's, this is what's, what's possible.
Susan Bratton: You know what else?
Julie Michelson: what,
Susan Bratton: I still have my period.
Julie Michelson: what,
Susan Bratton: I started doing bioidentical horn hormone replacement in my forties. I started doing estrogen. I started topping up my estrogen, and then I started adding testosterone and progesterone. And, um, I've, I keep myself topped up and I just had a six day period, and I have them [Page//00:23:00] about four times a year.
I don't have them every 28 days, but right with the moon, I had it. I have this stupid little saying, I swear, improve on this. I'm, I'm, I keep saying it and every time I say it, I'm like, could somebody do a better job of this than I, than this? But here's what I say. I say, if she ain't bleeding, she's receding.
Julie Michelson: Ah, I
Susan Bratton: feel like if I can, I was a very late bloomer. I didn't get my period till I was almost 18, like 17 years and 11 months, and then I got my period for the first time and I just wanted to ex extend my period span.
Julie Michelson: Right,
Susan Bratton: And I did not because I was topping up my hormones. I didn't go through menopause. I haven't yet gone through menopause now.
I have no history of cancer in my family. I have nothing to worry about. All my numbers are fantastic. I have a concierge functional doctor who's got an eagle eye on all my data. I don't, you know, all of this stuff is good. And [Page//00:24:00] I'll tell you, I love, not only do I love the estrogen, I wish I could bathe in it.
So I, because I do see my skin still thinning even though I take a lot of it. Um, and I love the progesterone, but what I love the most is the
Julie Michelson: I knew it. . Oh yeah.
Susan Bratton: love it because I go in the gym and I lift weights and I love that. I'm a barbarian. I feel so good as a barbarian.
Julie Michelson: so many women don't realize, you know, that we need testosterone and we need a, a good amount of testosterone to build muscle and for energy and libido. I mean, helps with libido too.
Susan Bratton: For our clitoral structure. I mean, that's another thing that I think I wanna talk about female anatomy for a second, because I think that's really important. One of the things that I think about is I think about this notion of sexual regenerative therapies and treatments. And if you wanna have a [Page//00:25:00] great sex life, your whole life long, it's a combination of three things.
It's learning techniques, sexual pleasuring techniques, and bedroom communication skills and sexual regenerative therapies, and you can get yourself back to where you were. It's just like using hormone replacement. You can get yourself back to where you were, and you can even take yourself to a higher level of optimization.
So that's what I would call the biohacking piece of it. So, The number one thing is nitric oxide supplementation. Just like you're doing hormone supplementation, you must top up your nitric oxide. Nitric oxide is a gaseous signaling molecule that shuttles your blood around in your body to your brain when you're doing your work, to your heart, when you're exercising to your pelvic bowl, when you are making love.
[Page//00:26:00] And because the female genitals, I have this silly little banana that I always like to hold up. Imagine a banana and now imagine this is your male bodied partner's penis. H cover up half of it,
Julie Michelson: He is very well in doubt.
Susan Bratton: I know. Well, this is a
Julie Michelson: that
Susan Bratton: large banana for video
Julie Michelson: girl
Susan Bratton: um, covering up half of the half of that banana is what sticks out. In his body, he has 50% more penis that goes inside his body. So now that you're thinking about doubling the size of his penis, or you've got a banana, right, it's the same size. Now peel off the skin and the fruit inside is all erectile tissue.
His penis is full of spongy tissue, just as he can't maintain, gain or maintain an erection if he's got low blood flow, heart disease, [Page//00:27:00] inflammation from insulin dysregulation, too much gluten, sugar, crap, right? All that stuff. I'm preaching to the choir, um,
Julie Michelson: Sing it Sister
Susan Bratton: um, that's giving him shrinkage and he's atrophying as he ages. Just as we get smaller, you know, we are big when we're in our thirties and forties, and then slowly we just get smaller and smaller and smaller. If we don't work out our muscles and keep, keep our, you know, it's called sarcopenia. We, we, we shrink, his penis is shrinking too.
His penis is getting shorter and thinner. It's literally shrinking.
Julie Michelson: What no man ever wants to hear.
Susan Bratton: and it's happening to all of them. And boy are they good at denial.
Julie Michelson: Uhhuh.
Susan Bratton: They're so good at denial, especially around health issues. So now imagine that all the fruit inside that banana, I take it out and I make it into a circle. [Page//00:28:00] So now all that banana is a circle with a, comes to a little point at the top.
Julie Michelson: Mm-hmm.
Susan Bratton: That's our, our female erectile tissue structures. We have as much erectile tissue in our vulva as our male bodied partner does in his entire banana penis. And yet, hi. He has fast acting hemodynamics that he's got an Audi. So you can see he is got a quick card on. He gets hard, very fast. He's got all that testo.
Julie Michelson: can't hide it.
Susan Bratton: And he can't hide it. We have the same amount of erectile tissue, but it's kind of like nooks and crannies. So the issue for us is it takes us 20 minutes of arousal and pleasuring to get into full engorgement or too messent, get, get. Clitoral Hardon, if you will. Our clitoral erection. It's actually three systems.
It's the [Page//00:29:00] clitoral, urethral, and perineal systems that make our erectile. So there's three little systems that have to be engorged. Blood flow has to get there, so by the time we are 50, we have half the nitric oxide production that we had when we were 20, so we can eat a lot more leafy green vegetable.
But the problem is that the night trites in leafy green vegetables have been declining over the years because of monocultures, soil depletion, lack of minerals. And so we're not even getting the same amount that our grandparents and our parents got from their leafy green vegetables. And we need things like bee root cabbage, dill, arugula, romaine chard, Bach choy.
You know, this is what gives us this nitric oxide, but it's not giving it to us like it used to, and we have less ability to produce it. So the s, the down and dirty super simple, easiest thing you can do to increase your libido and increase your pleasure, [Page//00:30:00] pleasure, and reverse atrophy and improve your erectile function and your partners, is to take a nitric oxide supplement.
The nitric oxide supplements are either arginine or citraline. If you're over 40, the clinical data shows that citraline is a better pathway for improving nitric oxide
Julie Michelson: good. I'm doing it right.
Susan Bratton: Yay.
Julie Michelson: Yay.
Susan Bratton: see. I've got one right here. One of the, so I have two companies. I have a publishing company and I have a supplement company.
I don't know if I've sent you my supplements, but I shall make sure I get your address. I make two things. I make one that's called Flow, F L O W, and it is, it is an organic it. It's citraline made from organic watermelon rind, organic spinach powder, and organic pine bark. These, and then organic vitamin C from the ch, from a cherry, from a, a bitter cherry.
Those are the perfect set of ingredients to [Page//00:31:00] produce more nitric oxide for you, which is gonna help you with cognitive function, with exercise, with everything including estrogen production. I just took a full CME class at the A4M longevity event and, uh, Dr. Felice Gersh, have you had her on your show yet?
Julie Michelson: Oh, I have. Love her.
Susan Bratton: She's fabulous. She did a whole segment on why estrogen and nitric oxide are twins. They're paired and you need one, or you can't have the other fully without the other. So flow, and I'll give you a link. The cheapest place I always sound like a special podcast link. It's by flow now, B U Y F L O W N O W.
That's the place to go to get the organic nitric oxide. Because most citraline is made in China. It's white powder made from corn liquor from pesticide laden corn. And believe you me, the pesticides do not go away in the production process. So you wanna watch
Julie Michelson: don't want the [Page//00:32:00] corn either, so
Susan Bratton: either.
Julie Michelson: No. No.
Susan Bratton: So that's like your down and dirty thing you must start doing in addition to hormone replacement, if you plan to do hormone replacement. And if you don't still do nitric oxide supplementation added in with your daily multivitamin, multimineral complex with your, you know, your essential fatty acids with your magnesium and your zinc.
I mean, these are, these are your fun, your fundamentals over 40. And most people don't even realize that. They're like, oh, wow, I just thought it was my hormones. And I'm like, oh no, it's, it's your nitric oxide. What's interesting too is that the vagina itself, so the number one issue that women have is becau, because our function WANs so slowly, constantly as we age, we don't realize how much orgasmic pleasure we are losing until we get it back and we're like, whoa, man, I didn't even know how
Julie Michelson: Especially if you're one of [Page//00:33:00] the majority of women who don't experience much and don't orgasmic pleasure to begin with. I have the, the doc I work with, I can't tell you how many times I've heard him ask when he is talking about hormones with a woman, you know, and it may be somebody I'm working with, so I know a lot about them and he'll say, you know, are you experiencing vaginal dryness?
And I'm like, stop asking it that way cuz so many women have no idea. because they're not even active anymore. They're just not engaging in sex. So they have no idea if they're having vaginal dryness. , you know, I'm like, you have to find a different way to word it, you
Susan Bratton: How would you word it?
Julie Michelson: uh, well just simply asking, you know, like, have you noticed vaginal dry, you know, if he doesn't wanna get into right away, the, you know, do you know or don't, you know, just gently, because women will say, no, I'm not, but it's cuz they don't know.
Susan Bratton: Yeah. That makes sense. That's fair.
Julie Michelson: A and so, and people don't realize, you know, it's not with the [Page//00:34:00] hormones and it's the same thing. You know, you talk about all the time with a, a slow cookers needing to really get ready, but when our hormones are depleting and, and there is dryness, that also means, we were talking about the skin on your face, but our tissues get thinner.
Susan Bratton: Yes they do.
Julie Michelson: And, and so, you know, it becomes this snowball, but it doesn't need to be that way. really doesn't need, my mom uses her estrogen cream on her face.
Susan Bratton: Yeah. Yeah. I I, I did that for a long time too. I'm, I was funny. I was thinking about going back to that, especially for my arms. My arms are getting very thin. Um, I, when you said if you're a slow cooker and if you're a slow cooker, I would reframe that we're all slow cookers. If you're in a female body, you're a slow cooker.
Julie Michelson: Oh no. I was quoting you with the slow cookie. Yeah. Yeah.
Susan Bratton: I think we are all,
Julie Michelson: people
Susan Bratton: not you. It's all of
Julie Michelson: were design, well, you just said it. If it, you know, he can instantly get aroused and if it's taking [Page//00:35:00] 20 minutes for our tissues to, to achieve erection at the, you know, at that rate. Like he, he is done half the time.
You know, unfortunately, they could be done
Susan Bratton: right? Well, the thing is that I want women to hold the line on being penetrated till we are ready. Uh, because every time you have unsatisfying sex, you're putting another brick in the wall of your future sex life. You're just building resentment. And even if you think to yourself, you're rationally justifying, I want, I'll just do it to be close to him, I've gotta do it.
Or he'll get grumpy, whatever it is. If you actually just waited and did more foreplay, and by the way, I don't even like the term sex and foreplay, because that puts all the emphasis on intercourse. That intercourse is the goal. And really that came from the idea that sex was for procreation only and not for pleasure, especially not women's pleasure.
So what I wanna do is I want people to think about sex as all the things, the [Page//00:36:00] kissing, the full body touch, the verbal appreciation, the foot rubs, the body rubs, the breast pleasuring, uh, the yoni massages -yoni being the tantric love making term for the woman's vulva, the yi massages, the oral pleasuring. All of those things are what we need to actually achieve satisfying penetration where we become orgasmic because they are the things that get the blood flowing into our genitals.
And so helping the blood flow with nitric oxide is really, really helpful. It's also super helpful for lubrication because the vagina isn't a gland, it's not a self wetting thing. It's actually a muscle, a super stretchy, amazing muscle. More like a pocket than a, than an inside out penis, by the way. And uh, so the whole friction, that's not good.
Learning, new love making stroking techniques is also very important.
And, uh, on my [Page//00:37:00] website at personallifemedia.com, I do a whole series of lovemaking intercourse techniques that go, that expand beyond just this kind of piston thing that men see on porn and think sex is. So it's another thing to start trying some of these new, uh, stroking, thrusting, entering techniques so that sex also intercourse becomes more satisfying for us.
We owe it to our men to start helping them understand how we need them to make love to us. They want to do it, they just don't know. They don't live in our bodies. And so
Julie Michelson: gives a man more pleasure than truly pleasuring his woman. I mean,
Susan Bratton: his number one thing he'll give up His pleasure for your pleasure.
Julie Michelson: Oh my gosh. And then he won't need to is the bonus
Susan Bratton: Exactly.
Julie Michelson: It's It's the best. And it's, and it's so empowering for, for [Page//00:38:00] both parties really. For the women and the men.
Susan Bratton: it is. It's such a beautiful part of your relationship if you're lucky enough to have a partner, cuz I know there are women listening to us that don't have a partner and they're like, I'm not even sure if I want one. And I hope that what I'm doing is giving you the confidence to know that when, that if you decide to have a partner, you can get back in the saddle and start to have the kind of love making that suits your body.
And the other thing I wanted to say about vaginal lubrication is that because it's not a gland, the way that our vaginas lubricate, the way that we get engorged and our vaginas get lubricated is that blood flows to the pelvis and it seeps through the blood plasma, seeps through the vaginal mucosal lining all the layers of the vagina skin and wets it.
So for women starting flow, starting the nitric oxide supplement, anyone you can buy mine, you can buy any, anything that works for you. Um, They say, oh my God, within 10 days I was wetter than ever. I was wetter than I have [Page//00:39:00] been, you know, since I can't remember when. And that although how lubricated you are is not technically correlated to your arousal levels, when you are wet, you feel sexier and more aroused.
So it's. Helpful.
Julie Michelson: Yes.
Susan Bratton: so that's the first line of defense is the, you know, getting the nitric oxide, getting the flow going. The second thing is that there are a couple of next steps you can take. One of them is using an at-home device. It's a vagina device, and the other is that you may want to layer on top of that, stack on top of that, going out and getting femme wave treatments.
And you can stack on top of that getting an O shot, which is p r p. And the other kind of parallel universe is what I call orgasmic [Page//00:40:00] cross-training, which is getting the five different ki types of pleasure toys. That stimulate and activate all of the different areas of your vulva. Not just the tip of your clitoris, but all the different areas of your vulva so that you are engorging and awakening all that tissue.
It's never too late,
Julie Michelson: That's not.
Susan Bratton: it's a really nice way to increase your turn on your arousal, your engorgement, your lubrication, your libido, your desire for sex is to self-pleasure with these five different tools. So I can show you the, the vagina device and talk about it. Um, I could show you the tools, whatever, wherever you wanna go from here.
I, I'd love to talk to you about how femme wave works, if you wanna do any of that. Or, or we can skip to something else. Um, I leave it in your hands as
Julie Michelson: I want all the things. Do you have three more hours? Um, . No,
Susan Bratton: I can come back.
Julie Michelson: I would love to have you come back for, for sure. I, I love the, um, [Page//00:41:00] Because you have so much knowledge and such a beautiful way to deliver, to make people comfortable even when they thought they were uncomfortable. Um, I, I would love to, let's touch on if we can the, the devices, but, but, um, look, I love just the, the nitric oxide.
I, I'm thinking about the listener who, you know, is maybe in that nowhere zone either they don't have the partner, they don't have that intimacy right now, and they don't have the energy, right? And so I wanna circle back before we get into, I, I was joking with a doctor last week about, somebody asked me what's my favorite detox protocol?
And I'm like, okay, well, are you drinking water? Are you pooping? Are you moving? You know, we want that. I'm a biohacker too. So we love the, the gadgets and the, and the supplements and the things. But I want listeners to remember where we started,
Susan Bratton: You got Biome.
Julie Michelson: gut, gut. You [Page//00:42:00] know, the diet, the movement, the sle, you need those foundational things.
Everything you guys hear me talk about all the time to reverse your autoimmunity is the same with sexual health and increasing pleasure and intimacy. Um, and then beyond that, we've got the master here. So yes, let's, let's talk about tools.
Susan Bratton: I always say that if your poops aren't falling out of your butt and swirling down the toilet, like ballerinas, start there. Like literally, that's the thing. Have you tried, by the way, have you tried that equilibrium probiotic?
Julie Michelson: I have not
Susan Bratton: Okay, so that thing makes my poops magic. It's actually a,
Julie Michelson: unicorn poop now?
Susan Bratton: it's a unicorn poop.
It comes out sparkle rainbow. I shoot sparkles outta my butt now.
Julie Michelson: I'm, I'm still just on bouquets, so I, I'm ready to uplevel
Susan Bratton: Girl, you got to get to Sparkle.
Julie Michelson: ask my
Susan Bratton: Sparkle Ponies we're Sparkle Ponies. So, um, [Page//00:43:00] equilibrium is a, is a probiotic that they developed by taking, um, health healthy fecal material and basically backward engineering what the bacterial, the symbiotic bacteria were. And then turning that into a probiotic. So it's like a fecal transplant, but you don't have to have a fecal transplant.
You're actually taking the probiotic.
Julie Michelson: is it a probiotic or a postbiotics? Now I'm
Susan Bratton: pro, it's
Julie Michelson: It is. Okay. Cuz
Susan Bratton: a, it's a symphony of probiotics.
Julie Michelson: taken one, um, and it's called Fein Biotic, we call it, in my house. We call it the Poop biotic. This is a company that was doing, um, I don't even know what you would call, you know, they, they were distributing the poop for fecal transplants and covid shut them down.
Susan Bratton: Okay.
Julie Michelson: and what they ended up doing is they cleaned the poop and it, it's, you know, it doesn't look like poop or smell like poop, but we, we do call [Page//00:44:00] it poop pills. Same concept. They, they refer to it as a postbiotics. Um, but it's that fecal, it's the goodies in the fecal matter. Um, see, just not where I thought we were going today.
I'm
Susan Bratton: Oh, uh, it always ends up at the gut.
Julie Michelson: It's always, and I always talk about poop. It is always, I dunno.
Susan Bratton: Me too. Yeah, you have to, you can't, you can't do, you can't stack any of this other stuff on top till you're pooping. Well, I mean, it really is your number one goal, so, okay. So let me show you and talk about the femme wave. So the, uh, I'm sorry about the vagina device. This is your at-home device. That's really good.
It's, uh, it's at, it's at vagina device.com. It's called a vfi, and it's an f d a class two vaginal rejuvenation device that has three modes that works simultaneously and synergistically red light. Photobiomodulation up inside the vagina.
Julie Michelson: Such a biohacker.
Susan Bratton: I know. And, um, warmth. It feels so good. The warmth and toning. Uh, it has a [Page//00:45:00] vibration for keel toning.
So what it does is it tightens tones, helps with incontinence. It remodels the glycogen in the vagina so that it's wonderful. There's no smell. If you have a little smell, but it's not that vaginosis, you know, and you're like, Hmm. It makes it, you smell like nothing. Um, it's just, this is, this is my personal experience of it, right?
They market it as an incontinence device because it's very difficult to market rejuvenation devices. So I love.
Julie Michelson: of, of an at-home, uh, there's a, a device we use in the clinic treatments. This is more of like an at-home deal, which I love.
Susan Bratton: right? And so I don't recommend that women go get lasered or RF devices or things like that because they're too damaging for 90% of women. You start with an at-home device, like this vagina device, or you ca and you can layer on the Femmy wave. And Femmy wave is the female version of GAINSWave.
[Page//00:46:00] GAINSWave is what is like the gold standard for guys who want to reverse atrophy, reverse ed, knock the plaque off the arteries, stimulate new nerve and tissue growth. Um, and that's what Femme Wave does and it's administered on the vulva. And the thing that I like about it in combination with the vagina device is that what the femme wave does, you go in for six treatments and I love it.
I have never been more lubricated since getting femmewave and I'm constantly chasing incontinence and it really helps me with that. I have the urge incontinence where I get into my garage, I get out of my car, I'm trying to get
Julie Michelson: and your
Susan Bratton: in my
Julie Michelson: bladder knows your home.
Susan Bratton: and I gotta pee so bad and I gotta take my shoes off cuz I got white carpet and I'm gonna pee my pants.
I hate that. So the femme wave is what I do to keep that at bay and it, it, it's put on your vulva. So it's put on your [Page//00:47:00] labia, your mos, your clitoral structure, your perineal structure. So it helps with not only your inco, not only the incontinence and the loss of lubrication and the laxity, but it also helps beef up your clitoral erectile tissue.
Again, reversing the atrophy of that and. . The only thing out there that plumps the labia back up because they get saggy as you get old and they look like man's balls down there. So it's really nice to get all that tissue plumped up. Joan River says she looked down and she's like, oh my God, it looks like fuzzy, fuzzy rabbit bunny slippers down there.
And I'm like, yeah, I'm not gonna get any fuzzy bunny slippers down there. I'm gonna keep everything nice and rejuvenated. And then if you're going to get femme wave, it's most likely that your femme wave and it's a femme wave.com, it's most likely that your practitioner. Also does the p r p into the [Page//00:48:00] clitoral and urethral
Julie Michelson: The O Shots.
Susan Bratton: So if you have any problem with achieving orgasm, if you have any problem with incontinence, if you've got any kind of tears, pedia, episiotomies, uh, horseback riding, bicycle injuries, things like that, um, getting the p r P into all those hery places and those places that are atrophying will really accelerate the benefits of the femme wave and take it even to the next level.
So let's go over it. It goes from budget. Super down and dirty is take your flow or whatever nitric oxide supplement you want. Next would be get your vagina device for at-home rejuvenation. Next would be add your femme wave, which if you could only do one thing it to me, it would be femme wave. If you can afford it, go straight to that.
And then you don't have to do the vagina device. But if you can't do the vagina device and then cherry on top is your OShot, and if you get an [Page//00:49:00] OShot and you're like, I didn't notice anything, then you need another one because you're
Julie Michelson: this, which I love. Yep,
Susan Bratton: It's like p r P fricking works.
Julie Michelson: it does.
Susan Bratton: your hair, it fixes your skin, it fixes your joints.
It fixes your vulva. Yeah,
Julie Michelson: Well, it's true rejuvenation. I mean, that's what it is, is, is true rejuvenation. I love that. So do you think somebody listening who you know, is still struggling with energy but working on the things, you know, starting with adding nitric oxide into their supplement regimen, is it sounds like you think will be noticeable.
Susan Bratton: Oh yeah. It's fundamental. Yeah. And give it to your husband too.
Julie Michelson: Yes. And they love it. guys love it.
Susan Bratton: two capsules before bed. If you can take two capsules before lovemaking, if you can take and take it whenever you want. It's one of those things like a [Page//00:50:00] probiotic. You can, you can kind of pop it in whenever you can.
It's just gonna replace and ta top up
Julie Michelson: I take two, twice a day. I mean, I, I'm not messing around. Like that's just in my, it's in my stack.
Susan Bratton: Yes,
Julie Michelson: For heart health, for, you know, cir all the good thing again, and, and that's what people don't seem to realize is, you know, any kind of sexual dysfunction is usually an early sign of cardiovascular stuff going on.
Yeah.
Susan Bratton: And if you have insulin dysregulation, you were also having nerve damage because when you have vascular issues, you're not getting the nerves. I innovated, you're not getting the blood supply to the nerves. And then when you have insulin dysregulation of any kind, your, uh, your essentially, your nerves don't operate.
Right. The inflammation wrecks your nerve sensitivity, so you lose feeling. Um, so if you have like edema, if your, if your ankles swell, if your, if you have tingling numbness, these [Page//00:51:00] are both signs of vascular and neuro neurologic, uh, issues.
Julie Michelson: and we tend, people tend to, we all normalize, uh, what's going on. These, this is, these are signs that we need to address underlying issues, um, which I love. Oh my gosh, I definitely wanna have you come back. , we have so much more to, so much more to talk about. Um, I always ask, I think I know what you're gonna say, but it's an opportunity to say whatever you want.
Um, I love to have you give listeners, you know, one. It can take today to start to move the needle in the right direction.
Susan Bratton: Yeah. I'm gonna give you something that's a real wild card.
Julie Michelson: Awesome. Love it.
Susan Bratton: I have, um, something new that I've recently created because we've been talking about the health side of things. But in all honesty, one of the things that happens is that we, we end up doing the same o samos in our sex life, and that gets boring.
[Page//00:52:00] And remember when I mentioned earlier, one of the things I should do when I come back is we should talk more about orgasmic cross training.
Julie Michelson: Ooh,
Susan Bratton: should talk about the toys that I recommend, why I recommend them, how to do it. The different types of female pleasure, the different types of male pleasure. I think that people don't even understand that they're working in a chocolate, vanilla world when it's sparkle rainbow territory.
So one of the things I like to do is basically be aspirational. I like to give people ideas of how to expand their pleasure because the more that you're confident and you know what you're going for, the more I give you the ideas, the more you were like, oh, that's a good idea. I can do that, right? You don't know where to go.
And then I give you the idea and you're like, oh, that's awesome. So I wanna give you something called my Sex life bucket list. It's at sex life bucket list.com. and it is 48 erotic play dates that you can do, [Page//00:53:00] and you do not need a partner for many, many, many of them. So even if you're a solo flyer right now, your sex life is your sex life and it's part of your personal growth.
And so you can continue to do these things too. You go to Sex Life bucket list and you get two things from me. It's free. The first one is a personalized sex life. It's an eight page printout, which by the way has all the toys I recommend for orgasmic cross training on the last page. It has all kinds of links to all the devices and things I've talked about.
That's all there as a resource too. But what I like about this is it essentially, let's just say you do have a partner, and you can do this on solo, but if you have a partner, you get, you print out the download twice, give your partner one, and you have one, and it comes with a video where I walk you through each one of 48 erotic play dates and you mark them A, B, or C.
A is, oh, this is definitely going on [Page//00:54:00] my
Julie Michelson: do it.
Susan Bratton: You know, we talked about doing that. We never did it kind of thing B is, well, it's not the thing I'd go on my bucket list, but if my partner wanted to do it, I would totally do it. It might be their bucket list and csr. It's not for me right now. Never say never.
And by the way, nothing on this list is going to make you guys go, Ew. There's a lot of stuff out there with a lot of freaky things on it. My brand of sex, if you will, if sex could have a brand, is heart connected, conscious, like we're awake, we're aware, we're conversational, we're not hiding, we're not pretending.
It's not happening. We're we're present with each other. Passionate. It feels good. We're playing off each other. It's loving. It's like we're turning each other on just being together. Lovemaking, heart connected, conscious, passionate lovemaking. That's my brand. So the things on this 48 erotic play dates are [Page//00:55:00] sweet, sexy, sassy, spicy darling, wonderful things.
And when you come up with your A list and your partner comes up with their A list, then you kind of merge them. And instead of having, oh God, we should be having sex and I know he wants me to have sex with them. You go, you move into, we're not having sex a k a, the goal is intercourse and we're just gonna go there too fast.
And then one more brick in my wall kind of thing. It's, oh, now we're doing play dates. And so now you have erotic play dates. And I'll give you, I've done a play date with my husband this week and I'm doing another one. The play date I did with him, the other, not last night, but the night be last night we had to watch White Lotus the night before , the night before.
Julie Michelson: So wait a minute. You're not always having sex all the time.
Susan Bratton: No, no, no, no. We, you know,
Julie Michelson: every, every day is not a play date.
Susan Bratton: No. But, um, the other night we used this new tool called The Handy. It's [Page//00:56:00] a, a sleeve that goes over his penis and this little device slides the sleeve up and down. And so we were literally lying there and he was, he had it on and he was messing with the buttons, trying to figure out how to make it work and, and like pushing all the buttons and it wasn't working.
And I'm like, hang on. And I get my phone out and I turn on the, the flashlight and I'm shining the flashlight and we're laughing. We're just laughing and laughing cuz we're trying this toy and I've got the light on, you know, and it's like, we're such nerds and we just had a really good time doing it. It was a really fun experience.
Tomorrow night or tonight, I, whenever we get to it, I'm trying a new product called The Booty Femme, which is a tiny little insertion into your rectum. A little, what are called butt plugs. Um, that's woman sized from fun factory. It's, um, it, you can put it in while you have intercourse. It doesn't get in the way.
And it's petite, it's diminutive. [Page//00:57:00] And I've, I'm not a big kind of backdoor play gal. I've done it, but I always lean toward pissing oral pleasuring, intercourse, things like that. That's just kind of my, my thing. I like lingerie photo shoots. I like trying new toys. I like those kinds of things. And so those are all of course on here.
But, uh, we're gonna try the booty fem and I'm looking forward to it, and so is my husband. So we're always trying new things and this is what we do as erotic play dates. Cuz I don't like sex dates. I mean, I just feel like, okay, but I'm not even turned on,
Julie Michelson: Right. But I have to, cuz I said I would,
Susan Bratton: Yeah. And I don't like that.
Julie Michelson: I wanna highlight because, you know, I would say on the one hand, you, you take sex and intimacy seriously.
Susan Bratton: I do.
Julie Michelson: But I lo I wanna highlight cuz I talk about it with, with healing period, is the importance of fun. And so I just wanna [Page//00:58:00] highlight how you're saying, you know, like you were laughing, you were having fun and that's sexy even if the gadget isn't doing what it's supposed to or you know, you're in it together.
That's that, that partnership piece.
Susan Bratton: the new relationship energy that you can have any time in your sex life when you try new things together. That's why having erotic play dates is better than having sex. And that's why I made the sex life bucket list, because it's not enough to learn techniques. You need the good ideas for fun things to do together, and that's what I created.
And then that's a, that's an on-ramp to all kinds of techniques. So now, now you've got access to, okay, I could learn this from her. I could learn this from her. Or, I'll just do this stuff that's free. I just wanna meet you where you are, and this is a way I can do it, is just give you the ideas and let you find what your path is to your greater pleasure.
That's my goal.
Julie Michelson: Amazing. And what a, what an incredible gift. I [Page//00:59:00] want to, I know we're at time, but I wanna circle back also to what you said, your, your brand. You
Susan Bratton: Yeah, I know.
Julie Michelson: you do, uh, um, of sex. I is, we're, you know, we're talking about, like you said, this, this is for people flying solo. This is for people in a partnership.
It doesn't matter. When I think of the, the words that you said, heart connected, conscious, present, lovemaking,
Susan Bratton: yeah,
Julie Michelson: will even somebody. Who is flying solo. I mean, those are all beautiful healing things that we need to work on, and what a fun way to do it. Um, so I just, I wanna, because I, I know that there is a, a variety out there and listeners, and I was somebody who was, I was, I didn't date for.
over 15 years. I was, when I was sick, I was, I kind of retreated and then I was working on myself. I was working on my health, I was working on. And, and [Page//01:00:00] so that's why when I say it's never too late, like as I'm talking from personal experience, um, you know, I have the most magical relationship beyond anything I've ever
Susan Bratton: Hmm.
Julie Michelson: And, and fun. So much fun. Um, so it is really never too late. It doesn't matter. And that's starting on working with you, you know, working on yourself, loving yourself is the best starting point. So you set it on air, we're gonna have you back. Cuz I
Susan Bratton: I will. , of course,
Julie Michelson: I wanna talk about, you know, the, the toys and the, and the cross training.
Um, a and, you know, let li listeners start with this incredible gift and they'll be ready to take it to the next level for the next
Susan Bratton: sounds so great. Thank you so much for having me, Julie. And if you do the sex life bucket list with your man, I would love to know what's on your sex life bucket list. It's always interesting for me to get the feedback. If you're a [Page//01:01:00] listener and you're doing it, you'll be on my email list if you opt in for the sex life bucket list.
And if you reply to any email I send you, it goes personally to my inbox and it's private. So the way that I got to be as good as I am is that people trust me with their most personal questions. And I just wanna let you know that I am here for you. If there was anything I said you didn't understand, I've got tons of assets to point you in the right direction.
So I really am here for you. My passion is passion. My passion is your passion. So, uh, hit me up anytime. And Julie, thanks for having me. Definitely come back and, um, I really appreciate y how much fun it was and yay for the goo gluten bee gone and the poops rainbow poops.
Julie Michelson: Rainbow poops! We all have new, new aspirations now, I love it. Susan, thank you so, so much For everyone listening. Remember, you can get the show notes and transcripts by visiting inspired living.show. [Page//01:02:00] I hope you had a great time. I hope we surprised you a little bit, and I hope you enjoyed this episode as much as I did.
I'll see you next week.
Today we're talking about the essential foundations for sexual health and intimacy and overall wellness. Susan shares her journey and her expertise with us and her openness leads to some spicy conversation.
Susan, welcome to the podcast.
Susan Bratton: Julie, you know, I'm so happy to be here. You and I have known each other for a few years now, and so it's finally time for us to get together and talk about some juicy stuff, and I'm looking forward to it. I, I can't even imagine what you're gonna ask me, so I'm just excited to be here.
Julie Michelson: Well, I have so many possibilities, so it's gonna be so much fun and such a treat. For, for listeners, because this is definitely a different kind of episode, we are really not gonna talk about gluten today. Um,
Susan Bratton: good cuz I don't eat any,
Julie Michelson: we, I don't either, but and now that we've established that, we have much juicier things to, to dig into.
And as you know, I said before I hit record, I've been [Page//00:02:00] a, a, a big fan. I love what you're doing. I know.
Susan Bratton: Thank you.
Julie Michelson: How important it is, um, for, for all of us for wellness at, at any age. Um, but you're just such a, a bright shining light. And I, the one piece I don't know is, you know, how did you become the intimacy expert to millions?
Like how, how does that happen?
Susan Bratton: Yeah, I know. It's so funny. Well, it's really my second career because I'm in my sixties now and I've been doing this for a couple decades. Um, and it's my second career. What happened was my husband and I were very, very successful. Silicon Valley couple at in the internet, web 1.0, the beginning of the internet.
And we'd been married for 11 years and on our anniversary evening, I had two gin martinis and I said, babe, we're like [Page//00:03:00] platonic. We're not connected. This is no good. And he said, yeah, um, it's, I don't know what we should do here. We're so disconnected. And what had happened, in all honesty, hindsight 2020, was that I had been, um, having sex with my husband for a dozen years, and by sex, I mean intercourse, and I had never had an orgasm. and you know, you can only tell yourself for so long that it's nice to be close to each other and blah, blah, blah. But if you are not really having the same level of experience as your male bodied partner, you become resentful. And I had gotten to the point where I would th I could think of a million things, a million reasons why I couldn't have sex with my husband.
I just didn't wanna do it anymore. And so he had tried to compensate by having an affair. He had had serial affairs, and I didn't even know that at the time. [Page//00:04:00] He'd hid it so well. He was trying to compensate for having a sexless, being in a sexless marriage, but loving me and loving our daughter and loving our life.
But over time, he emotionally really checked out of the relationship. And so I was like, what, what are we even doing here? This is not my idea of marriage. And he's like, this is not my idea of marriage either. . So we went to, uh, some therapists and. You know, I had had a lot of abuse from my stepfather as a child.
Sexual abuse. I had a lot of trauma from that, and I, I also had a childhood that was, um, very insecurely attached. My parents were doing the best they could do, the gentle and delicate souls they were. And, uh, often I was taking care of them. They weren't taking care of me. And so the combination of the sexual trauma, the divorces, the instability, I just really had never learned how to love [Page//00:05:00] fully.
I had a guarded heart with my husband, and we did not know how to have satisfying sex together for. . And so we said, we gotta fix this stuff. So I did therapy to really kind of move through the trauma and get to forgiveness and understanding and remember who I was before these things happened to me, how to stay present during love making and not dissociate.
And we also started taking sex workshops. We also did a lot of personal growth. We did Tony Robbins, we walked on fire, we did all kinds of things to really grow up. And we were in our early forties at the time. And a lot of people think to themselves, oh God, by the time I'm 40, my sex life will be over.
When you're young, you think that's old. You know? And when you're old, you look at that and you're like, I was, we were such
Julie Michelson: I didn't know anything. Yeah,
Susan Bratton: didn't know anything. We didn't know anything. And we saw. our friends marriages dropping like flies. We saw them all getting divorced and we knew it wasn't money.
Cause we [Page//00:06:00] were all doing very well in the Silicon Valley. We all had jobs, it was sex for sure. So we started going to these sexuality workshops because we're the kind of people who are like, if it's broken, let's fix it. We can figure it out. We believe we can learn anything and figure anything out. And we were really committed to staying together because I, I told him, I love you.
I could never do better than you. And he's like, I feel the same. We just have to fix this problem. We started going to sex workshops and it was, I mean, Juliet, it was nearly instantaneous. We started getting the skills we needed to do what I now call crossing the gam chasm, closing the orgasm gap that Dr.
Lori Mintz so eloquently defined in her TED talk about how easy it is for our male bodied partners to have satisfying climaxes from intercourse and how difficult it seems to be for women to achieve it. Well, it turns out that all it is is a learned skill. All women can have, [Page//00:07:00] not only orgasms from intercourse without even touching the tip of the clitoris, but you can learn 20 different kinds of orgasm techniques.
And so when we realized how easy it was, my husband and I, both being tech people, said, oh my God, who's gonna get naked? Spend five grand and go to a sex workshop? Hardly anybody, but who's gonna just us, but who's going to digitally download audios, videos, and eBooks online from anywhere in the world to have kind of like a workshop and a box, couples learning program, and even singles learning programs, techniques and things like that.
Pretty much anybody, anybody that's a sexual seeker that cares about their sex life, which is not everybody by the way, but lots and lots of people. And it comes down to the fact that. Number one, we're taught about, uh, in, when what we're taught about sex is pro procreation, uh, STIs, things like that. Some minimal
Julie Michelson: you[Page//00:08:00]
Susan Bratton: Right. It's mostly scare tactics. Exactly. Um, it'll scare you off of wanting sex. And then there's all the religious repression, shame, guilt, you know, all of those kinds of things. Then there's the just no good models. There's porn and movies and they're both terrible at depicting the kind of sex that especially us female bodied people need to have.
So, um, when we realized how easy it was, we said, and we fell in love with each other. Our sex life was on fire. We rekindled everything we've had. We just went through this incredible renaissance in our relationship. I finally had the kind of satisfying sex that I had wondered if people were just faking or lying.
I can remember feeling these paranoid feelings, like, what if people are just lying about it and it's not even true? It's true. If you are one of those people who hasn't yet had the kind of sex that feels, oh God, effortless. You're confident you don't have performance anxiety. [Page//00:09:00] You know, your body will give you incredibly satisfying experiences.
You feel like you're good at being pleasured and pleasuring. You can drop in. Your heart is open, you're connected to your partner. You're looking forward to the next date you have with them. Um, when you get to that point, it's really a foundation of learned skills that get you there. Well, who, where do you learn those?
That's what we decided to do, was start basically a publishing company, publishing the work of many of the teachers whose workshops we went to, and then over the last two decades of me just learning everything about. Female and male pleasure and tr. What I really think I do well is I actually explain to guys what their female bodied partners need.
Explain to women what their bodies need. Let women know that there's nothing wrong with them. They're not broken. [Page//00:10:00] It's not their libido, except in the cases where it is, which is because of poor health. Because your health and your libido are two sides of the same coin. If you don't feel well, you don't have a libido.
So that's really about energy, nutrition, exercise, hormone balancing, all those things. But it's not. Just your hormones. And a big part of why in menopause, especially women go through this time when they're like, I just have no libido. It's partly because we have had mitochondrial decline. We've had hormone loss, we've had loss of nitric oxide, we have inflammation.
We have athero atherosclerosis, we have cognitive function dysfunction from often gluten, we
Julie Michelson: That a girl,
Susan Bratton: all of these things that have kind of piled, they've piled up and they've layered on and they've taken us down. But add to it the fact that for most of [Page//00:11:00] us, We've been having sex at the pace of our male bodied partners.
We've been having man style sex and it doesn't serve us. And so if there's one thing that I want to do in this world, it's explain to men how to make love to women the way we need it done, and to explain to women that they're not broken. They can orgasm from intercourse, from all kinds of things, and that they are simply learned skills, but that we have a much slower arousal ladder.
We're not. Instantly horny. We're not always turned on. We're not driven to masturbate every day. Like our male body partners, we don't get an erection in two minutes. We get an erection in 20 minutes. It's as important for us to have an erection as our male bodied partners. We've been having sex without being fully erect our almost our entire lives most of the time.
So these are the things [Page//00:12:00] that once women hear them, they're like, what? Oh my God, I thought it was me. This is what we do. We think it's us. We don't understand. There's nothing wrong with us. So when I get women empowered with the knowledge and the techniques, And the understanding that they have a libido, they have desire, they have arousal.
There are different things. How to unlock them. What what we need. Boy, women, just our forties are the, honestly, the best, best time to begin pursuing and expanding our sexuality to move into our female sexual empowerment. To take things into our own hands and say, this is what I'm gonna need. Le a, actually, my husband and I, we have this little hash, we've had hashtags before.
The hashtag was even a hashtag. Um, we call ourselves team sweetie. He stopped feeling victimized. He stopped feeling like [Page//00:13:00] rejected. Shut down. He stopped offering me sex. He started in offering me things that we call small offers. Tiny little things we can say yes to. To get us to the point where our male bodied partners already are Ha, knowing that we just don't walk around in the world 99% of the time at the horniness level of our male bodied partners, and that it's nothing to do with us and our desire for our partner.
W so many women say, I want to want him, but I don't.
Julie Michelson: Yes.
Susan Bratton: Oh my God, if I had a nickel for every time I heard that. Right. So
Julie Michelson: I love that, that you shared, you know, that you went all those years and, and didn't have an or. I, I've seen so many women heard, so many women say, I've never had an orgasm. And, and a lot even alone, they forget with a partner, you know, they, and they think they're broken or they're just not made [Page//00:14:00] that way or,
Susan Bratton: That's what we do. We take it on ourselves. It has to be us. We have to be broken. We're different. And it's like, uh, girl, you are the same as all the rest of us. You got all the same parts. We just gotta get 'em going. And that's why Engorgement. Is literally the Rosetta Stone to all of the orgasms that you can possibly have.
And then when you know that, when you understand that actually the thing that's gonna help you do what I call crossing the gasm chasm, closing that orgasm gap, making it as easy for you to have orgasms from intercourse, from oral, from kissing, from breast play, from using your toys, from all these different stimulatory experiences, as soon as you start to come, you start to come better and better and better.
And then you start to come in new ways. Then you're confident. You've got body confidence, you know your body can perform and respond and things just get on what I like to call the [Page//00:15:00] upward pleasure spiral. They get better and better over time instead of swirling down the toilet like most of our sex lives do.
When we don't know there's nothing wrong with us and that all we need is the right stimulation at the right time.
Julie Michelson: Wow. Okay. We're done. No, I'm kidding.
Susan Bratton: Oh, that was my mic drop. No, I got more. I got more. Julie
Julie Michelson: I know you do. Have to, you know, for people that aren't familiar with you, the, the, just the fact that you're in your sixties blows me away because your, your energy and beauty just exudes and, and so, you know, some things do get, get better with age for sure. Um, but, uh, you know, whether you're in your forties or you're in your fifties or you're in, I mean, it doesn't matter.
It's an, it's, it's just like reversing autoimmunity. It's never too late. Like, don't hold the attitude like, I've made it this far without an orgasm or without, you know, truly good sex. And that's [Page//00:16:00] fine. Um, you know, because it, it just can get better and better and better. And, and seeing you with your husband is, is just always so inspiring.
And you two are so adorable.
Susan Bratton: You know what helped me a lot? A decade ago was, you know, cause it was 42 when I started exploring my sexuality. But by the time I was 50, I was having trouble even walking up the stairs. I was so exhausted, my knees ached, my joints ached. I, I just was not, I, I thought, my god, I'm getting old. And um, I went to my doctor, who's still my doctor today, and he said, you know, I wanna do an elimination diet on
Julie Michelson: Mm-hmm.
Susan Bratton: I want you to give up dairy, corn, soy, peanuts, eggs, and wheat. Just stop eating those things for the next couple weeks. And then slowly I want you to add them back in.
Julie Michelson: yeah.
Susan Bratton: And within two weeks I felt better. And as soon as I added gluten in, my [Page//00:17:00] joints started aching
Julie Michelson: Mm-hmm.
Susan Bratton: Within a couple of months of not eating gluten anymore, I'd had this rash on my butt.
That always embarrassed me from my thirties. I had right on each side of my butt crack kind of right on my butt. I had what looked like little, little red bumps and I, I mean, I tried topicals, I tried all kinds of things. I could never get rid of it. Low and behold, within a month of stopping gluten, my butt had no more bumps, and
Julie Michelson: Nest, it got beautiful Butt
Susan Bratton: That was, I mean, and you know, pa part of great sex is feeling great naked and not being embarrassed. And I'll tell you, that really helped me reverse my aging in my fifties so that I could sail into my sixties so much stronger. The bummer was I got covid [Page//00:18:00] three times, and the first time I got it really early on, I had the worst long haul.
It took me years to get over it. So I'm still, I literally am still growing my hair back from
Julie Michelson: Yes. You and every other woman,
Susan Bratton: I've been doing p r p, that's been great. I've been doing the, um, hair lift and I've been doing the p r p on my face, but I also had a face. Just about three months ago. Um, because when I started getting better from Covid, I said, I've gotta get back and start working out, because I know that when I work out, I've, I, I just have more libido, more energy, more vitality.
I feel prettier, I feel sexier. I, I, my sex is better, I've got more stamina. I, I have the energy at night to have sex, you know, all those things. And, uh, I, I lost like 25 pounds. I was, I was skinny fat. I was like, I don't know what, I didn't have any muscle. By the time I got through all that long haul [Page//00:19:00] and I lost 25 pounds and it's 61, I was like, oh, my face isn't gonna suck itself back.
So I got it trimmed off and that really helped a
Julie Michelson: They did a beautiful job. It looks, you look amazing. It's so
Susan Bratton: a, I had one at 50.
Julie Michelson: Okay.
Susan Bratton: and then I had one at 61. My mom did too. She had, she had two facelifts and she's 85 now, and she's still beautiful. Um, she had two facelifts about 15 years apart, and that's what made me know that that was an okay thing to do and that it, you know, that it, that it would work well for me.
Like it worked well for her. Um, and so I think the, now I'm getting back on my feet again, starting to work out again, and my energy's starting to go up again. I've been having to rest from getting back after
Julie Michelson: you have to be careful. Yeah.
Susan Bratton: to get back going again with my exercise routine,
Julie Michelson: Yeah.
Susan Bratton: because when you redo it, oh God, you, it has to remodel your whole face.
I mean, you can feel [Page//00:20:00] the tissue kind of having to grow back in, you know, it's, it's pretty incredible the, the, the, but this is
Julie Michelson: The body's amazing.
Susan Bratton: That's just the point I'm I'm making, which is I recovered from gluten, I recovered from Covid. You, I always feel like it's just maintenance, maintenance, maintenance, maintenance.
You gotta nip everything in the bud. You gotta keep coming back to your clean eating, your movement, your, you know, you just have to, this is what you have to do to live a vital life. So it's, there's, I'm not glowing because of orgasm power. I'm glowing because of orgasm power,
Julie Michelson: And
Susan Bratton: exercise, plus good nutrition.
Exactly.
Julie Michelson: I love that. I, I, that's, it's amazing. And you know, listeners are probably rolling eyes, like really? So we are talking about diet and movement, stress management Yes. And inflammation. And you mentioned a big one. Hormones. Um, you know, I, I, I had a complete [Page//00:21:00] hysterectomy three years ago with an oophorectomy.
Um, and so, you know, that ovaries out and so, you know, went from, you know, not menopausal to boom, you know, menopausal,
Susan Bratton: are you doing bioidenticals?
Julie Michelson: absolutely. Uh, uh, I mean, uh, you name it, no, I mean, , estradiol, estradiol, testosterone, progesterone, I mean, I, I. I have a great hormone doc. I, and, and used to joke, um, cuz I was estrogen dominant, didn't know it until I found functional medicine.
And so back when I was still cycling and he added in some progesterone for me it was life changing. And I used to say all the time, like, oh, I'm so glad I don't have to go through menopause without you. I had no idea how soon I would be going through it. But I that if you're managing, and these are, you know, we're talking about it regarding [Page//00:22:00] intimacy, but same thing, energy, you know, all skin organs.
I mean, it's, when we lose our hormones, our body is getting signals like it's time to be done. And so, you know, osteoporosis, loose skin, all, all yeah. All of all the things. Yeah.
Susan Bratton: muscle loss.
Julie Michelson: we need. Good hormone health and balance to stay young and f you know, for me to feel better in my fifties than I did in my forties, and you to feel better in your sixties, but, you know, it's, this is what's, what's possible.
Susan Bratton: You know what else?
Julie Michelson: what,
Susan Bratton: I still have my period.
Julie Michelson: what,
Susan Bratton: I started doing bioidentical horn hormone replacement in my forties. I started doing estrogen. I started topping up my estrogen, and then I started adding testosterone and progesterone. And, um, I've, I keep myself topped up and I just had a six day period, and I have them [Page//00:23:00] about four times a year.
I don't have them every 28 days, but right with the moon, I had it. I have this stupid little saying, I swear, improve on this. I'm, I'm, I keep saying it and every time I say it, I'm like, could somebody do a better job of this than I, than this? But here's what I say. I say, if she ain't bleeding, she's receding.
Julie Michelson: Ah, I
Susan Bratton: feel like if I can, I was a very late bloomer. I didn't get my period till I was almost 18, like 17 years and 11 months, and then I got my period for the first time and I just wanted to ex extend my period span.
Julie Michelson: Right,
Susan Bratton: And I did not because I was topping up my hormones. I didn't go through menopause. I haven't yet gone through menopause now.
I have no history of cancer in my family. I have nothing to worry about. All my numbers are fantastic. I have a concierge functional doctor who's got an eagle eye on all my data. I don't, you know, all of this stuff is good. And [Page//00:24:00] I'll tell you, I love, not only do I love the estrogen, I wish I could bathe in it.
So I, because I do see my skin still thinning even though I take a lot of it. Um, and I love the progesterone, but what I love the most is the
Julie Michelson: I knew it. . Oh yeah.
Susan Bratton: love it because I go in the gym and I lift weights and I love that. I'm a barbarian. I feel so good as a barbarian.
Julie Michelson: so many women don't realize, you know, that we need testosterone and we need a, a good amount of testosterone to build muscle and for energy and libido. I mean, helps with libido too.
Susan Bratton: For our clitoral structure. I mean, that's another thing that I think I wanna talk about female anatomy for a second, because I think that's really important. One of the things that I think about is I think about this notion of sexual regenerative therapies and treatments. And if you wanna have a [Page//00:25:00] great sex life, your whole life long, it's a combination of three things.
It's learning techniques, sexual pleasuring techniques, and bedroom communication skills and sexual regenerative therapies, and you can get yourself back to where you were. It's just like using hormone replacement. You can get yourself back to where you were, and you can even take yourself to a higher level of optimization.
So that's what I would call the biohacking piece of it. So, The number one thing is nitric oxide supplementation. Just like you're doing hormone supplementation, you must top up your nitric oxide. Nitric oxide is a gaseous signaling molecule that shuttles your blood around in your body to your brain when you're doing your work, to your heart, when you're exercising to your pelvic bowl, when you are making love.
[Page//00:26:00] And because the female genitals, I have this silly little banana that I always like to hold up. Imagine a banana and now imagine this is your male bodied partner's penis. H cover up half of it,
Julie Michelson: He is very well in doubt.
Susan Bratton: I know. Well, this is a
Julie Michelson: that
Susan Bratton: large banana for video
Julie Michelson: girl
Susan Bratton: um, covering up half of the half of that banana is what sticks out. In his body, he has 50% more penis that goes inside his body. So now that you're thinking about doubling the size of his penis, or you've got a banana, right, it's the same size. Now peel off the skin and the fruit inside is all erectile tissue.
His penis is full of spongy tissue, just as he can't maintain, gain or maintain an erection if he's got low blood flow, heart disease, [Page//00:27:00] inflammation from insulin dysregulation, too much gluten, sugar, crap, right? All that stuff. I'm preaching to the choir, um,
Julie Michelson: Sing it Sister
Susan Bratton: um, that's giving him shrinkage and he's atrophying as he ages. Just as we get smaller, you know, we are big when we're in our thirties and forties, and then slowly we just get smaller and smaller and smaller. If we don't work out our muscles and keep, keep our, you know, it's called sarcopenia. We, we, we shrink, his penis is shrinking too.
His penis is getting shorter and thinner. It's literally shrinking.
Julie Michelson: What no man ever wants to hear.
Susan Bratton: and it's happening to all of them. And boy are they good at denial.
Julie Michelson: Uhhuh.
Susan Bratton: They're so good at denial, especially around health issues. So now imagine that all the fruit inside that banana, I take it out and I make it into a circle. [Page//00:28:00] So now all that banana is a circle with a, comes to a little point at the top.
Julie Michelson: Mm-hmm.
Susan Bratton: That's our, our female erectile tissue structures. We have as much erectile tissue in our vulva as our male bodied partner does in his entire banana penis. And yet, hi. He has fast acting hemodynamics that he's got an Audi. So you can see he is got a quick card on. He gets hard, very fast. He's got all that testo.
Julie Michelson: can't hide it.
Susan Bratton: And he can't hide it. We have the same amount of erectile tissue, but it's kind of like nooks and crannies. So the issue for us is it takes us 20 minutes of arousal and pleasuring to get into full engorgement or too messent, get, get. Clitoral Hardon, if you will. Our clitoral erection. It's actually three systems.
It's the [Page//00:29:00] clitoral, urethral, and perineal systems that make our erectile. So there's three little systems that have to be engorged. Blood flow has to get there, so by the time we are 50, we have half the nitric oxide production that we had when we were 20, so we can eat a lot more leafy green vegetable.
But the problem is that the night trites in leafy green vegetables have been declining over the years because of monocultures, soil depletion, lack of minerals. And so we're not even getting the same amount that our grandparents and our parents got from their leafy green vegetables. And we need things like bee root cabbage, dill, arugula, romaine chard, Bach choy.
You know, this is what gives us this nitric oxide, but it's not giving it to us like it used to, and we have less ability to produce it. So the s, the down and dirty super simple, easiest thing you can do to increase your libido and increase your pleasure, [Page//00:30:00] pleasure, and reverse atrophy and improve your erectile function and your partners, is to take a nitric oxide supplement.
The nitric oxide supplements are either arginine or citraline. If you're over 40, the clinical data shows that citraline is a better pathway for improving nitric oxide
Julie Michelson: good. I'm doing it right.
Susan Bratton: Yay.
Julie Michelson: Yay.
Susan Bratton: see. I've got one right here. One of the, so I have two companies. I have a publishing company and I have a supplement company.
I don't know if I've sent you my supplements, but I shall make sure I get your address. I make two things. I make one that's called Flow, F L O W, and it is, it is an organic it. It's citraline made from organic watermelon rind, organic spinach powder, and organic pine bark. These, and then organic vitamin C from the ch, from a cherry, from a, a bitter cherry.
Those are the perfect set of ingredients to [Page//00:31:00] produce more nitric oxide for you, which is gonna help you with cognitive function, with exercise, with everything including estrogen production. I just took a full CME class at the A4M longevity event and, uh, Dr. Felice Gersh, have you had her on your show yet?
Julie Michelson: Oh, I have. Love her.
Susan Bratton: She's fabulous. She did a whole segment on why estrogen and nitric oxide are twins. They're paired and you need one, or you can't have the other fully without the other. So flow, and I'll give you a link. The cheapest place I always sound like a special podcast link. It's by flow now, B U Y F L O W N O W.
That's the place to go to get the organic nitric oxide. Because most citraline is made in China. It's white powder made from corn liquor from pesticide laden corn. And believe you me, the pesticides do not go away in the production process. So you wanna watch
Julie Michelson: don't want the [Page//00:32:00] corn either, so
Susan Bratton: either.
Julie Michelson: No. No.
Susan Bratton: So that's like your down and dirty thing you must start doing in addition to hormone replacement, if you plan to do hormone replacement. And if you don't still do nitric oxide supplementation added in with your daily multivitamin, multimineral complex with your, you know, your essential fatty acids with your magnesium and your zinc.
I mean, these are, these are your fun, your fundamentals over 40. And most people don't even realize that. They're like, oh, wow, I just thought it was my hormones. And I'm like, oh no, it's, it's your nitric oxide. What's interesting too is that the vagina itself, so the number one issue that women have is becau, because our function WANs so slowly, constantly as we age, we don't realize how much orgasmic pleasure we are losing until we get it back and we're like, whoa, man, I didn't even know how
Julie Michelson: Especially if you're one of [Page//00:33:00] the majority of women who don't experience much and don't orgasmic pleasure to begin with. I have the, the doc I work with, I can't tell you how many times I've heard him ask when he is talking about hormones with a woman, you know, and it may be somebody I'm working with, so I know a lot about them and he'll say, you know, are you experiencing vaginal dryness?
And I'm like, stop asking it that way cuz so many women have no idea. because they're not even active anymore. They're just not engaging in sex. So they have no idea if they're having vaginal dryness. , you know, I'm like, you have to find a different way to word it, you
Susan Bratton: How would you word it?
Julie Michelson: uh, well just simply asking, you know, like, have you noticed vaginal dry, you know, if he doesn't wanna get into right away, the, you know, do you know or don't, you know, just gently, because women will say, no, I'm not, but it's cuz they don't know.
Susan Bratton: Yeah. That makes sense. That's fair.
Julie Michelson: A and so, and people don't realize, you know, it's not with the [Page//00:34:00] hormones and it's the same thing. You know, you talk about all the time with a, a slow cookers needing to really get ready, but when our hormones are depleting and, and there is dryness, that also means, we were talking about the skin on your face, but our tissues get thinner.
Susan Bratton: Yes they do.
Julie Michelson: And, and so, you know, it becomes this snowball, but it doesn't need to be that way. really doesn't need, my mom uses her estrogen cream on her face.
Susan Bratton: Yeah. Yeah. I I, I did that for a long time too. I'm, I was funny. I was thinking about going back to that, especially for my arms. My arms are getting very thin. Um, I, when you said if you're a slow cooker and if you're a slow cooker, I would reframe that we're all slow cookers. If you're in a female body, you're a slow cooker.
Julie Michelson: Oh no. I was quoting you with the slow cookie. Yeah. Yeah.
Susan Bratton: I think we are all,
Julie Michelson: people
Susan Bratton: not you. It's all of
Julie Michelson: were design, well, you just said it. If it, you know, he can instantly get aroused and if it's taking [Page//00:35:00] 20 minutes for our tissues to, to achieve erection at the, you know, at that rate. Like he, he is done half the time.
You know, unfortunately, they could be done
Susan Bratton: right? Well, the thing is that I want women to hold the line on being penetrated till we are ready. Uh, because every time you have unsatisfying sex, you're putting another brick in the wall of your future sex life. You're just building resentment. And even if you think to yourself, you're rationally justifying, I want, I'll just do it to be close to him, I've gotta do it.
Or he'll get grumpy, whatever it is. If you actually just waited and did more foreplay, and by the way, I don't even like the term sex and foreplay, because that puts all the emphasis on intercourse. That intercourse is the goal. And really that came from the idea that sex was for procreation only and not for pleasure, especially not women's pleasure.
So what I wanna do is I want people to think about sex as all the things, the [Page//00:36:00] kissing, the full body touch, the verbal appreciation, the foot rubs, the body rubs, the breast pleasuring, uh, the yoni massages -yoni being the tantric love making term for the woman's vulva, the yi massages, the oral pleasuring. All of those things are what we need to actually achieve satisfying penetration where we become orgasmic because they are the things that get the blood flowing into our genitals.
And so helping the blood flow with nitric oxide is really, really helpful. It's also super helpful for lubrication because the vagina isn't a gland, it's not a self wetting thing. It's actually a muscle, a super stretchy, amazing muscle. More like a pocket than a, than an inside out penis, by the way. And uh, so the whole friction, that's not good.
Learning, new love making stroking techniques is also very important.
And, uh, on my [Page//00:37:00] website at personallifemedia.com, I do a whole series of lovemaking intercourse techniques that go, that expand beyond just this kind of piston thing that men see on porn and think sex is. So it's another thing to start trying some of these new, uh, stroking, thrusting, entering techniques so that sex also intercourse becomes more satisfying for us.
We owe it to our men to start helping them understand how we need them to make love to us. They want to do it, they just don't know. They don't live in our bodies. And so
Julie Michelson: gives a man more pleasure than truly pleasuring his woman. I mean,
Susan Bratton: his number one thing he'll give up His pleasure for your pleasure.
Julie Michelson: Oh my gosh. And then he won't need to is the bonus
Susan Bratton: Exactly.
Julie Michelson: It's It's the best. And it's, and it's so empowering for, for [Page//00:38:00] both parties really. For the women and the men.
Susan Bratton: it is. It's such a beautiful part of your relationship if you're lucky enough to have a partner, cuz I know there are women listening to us that don't have a partner and they're like, I'm not even sure if I want one. And I hope that what I'm doing is giving you the confidence to know that when, that if you decide to have a partner, you can get back in the saddle and start to have the kind of love making that suits your body.
And the other thing I wanted to say about vaginal lubrication is that because it's not a gland, the way that our vaginas lubricate, the way that we get engorged and our vaginas get lubricated is that blood flows to the pelvis and it seeps through the blood plasma, seeps through the vaginal mucosal lining all the layers of the vagina skin and wets it.
So for women starting flow, starting the nitric oxide supplement, anyone you can buy mine, you can buy any, anything that works for you. Um, They say, oh my God, within 10 days I was wetter than ever. I was wetter than I have [Page//00:39:00] been, you know, since I can't remember when. And that although how lubricated you are is not technically correlated to your arousal levels, when you are wet, you feel sexier and more aroused.
So it's. Helpful.
Julie Michelson: Yes.
Susan Bratton: so that's the first line of defense is the, you know, getting the nitric oxide, getting the flow going. The second thing is that there are a couple of next steps you can take. One of them is using an at-home device. It's a vagina device, and the other is that you may want to layer on top of that, stack on top of that, going out and getting femme wave treatments.
And you can stack on top of that getting an O shot, which is p r p. And the other kind of parallel universe is what I call orgasmic [Page//00:40:00] cross-training, which is getting the five different ki types of pleasure toys. That stimulate and activate all of the different areas of your vulva. Not just the tip of your clitoris, but all the different areas of your vulva so that you are engorging and awakening all that tissue.
It's never too late,
Julie Michelson: That's not.
Susan Bratton: it's a really nice way to increase your turn on your arousal, your engorgement, your lubrication, your libido, your desire for sex is to self-pleasure with these five different tools. So I can show you the, the vagina device and talk about it. Um, I could show you the tools, whatever, wherever you wanna go from here.
I, I'd love to talk to you about how femme wave works, if you wanna do any of that. Or, or we can skip to something else. Um, I leave it in your hands as
Julie Michelson: I want all the things. Do you have three more hours? Um, . No,
Susan Bratton: I can come back.
Julie Michelson: I would love to have you come back for, for sure. I, I love the, um, [Page//00:41:00] Because you have so much knowledge and such a beautiful way to deliver, to make people comfortable even when they thought they were uncomfortable. Um, I, I would love to, let's touch on if we can the, the devices, but, but, um, look, I love just the, the nitric oxide.
I, I'm thinking about the listener who, you know, is maybe in that nowhere zone either they don't have the partner, they don't have that intimacy right now, and they don't have the energy, right? And so I wanna circle back before we get into, I, I was joking with a doctor last week about, somebody asked me what's my favorite detox protocol?
And I'm like, okay, well, are you drinking water? Are you pooping? Are you moving? You know, we want that. I'm a biohacker too. So we love the, the gadgets and the, and the supplements and the things. But I want listeners to remember where we started,
Susan Bratton: You got Biome.
Julie Michelson: gut, gut. You [Page//00:42:00] know, the diet, the movement, the sle, you need those foundational things.
Everything you guys hear me talk about all the time to reverse your autoimmunity is the same with sexual health and increasing pleasure and intimacy. Um, and then beyond that, we've got the master here. So yes, let's, let's talk about tools.
Susan Bratton: I always say that if your poops aren't falling out of your butt and swirling down the toilet, like ballerinas, start there. Like literally, that's the thing. Have you tried, by the way, have you tried that equilibrium probiotic?
Julie Michelson: I have not
Susan Bratton: Okay, so that thing makes my poops magic. It's actually a,
Julie Michelson: unicorn poop now?
Susan Bratton: it's a unicorn poop.
It comes out sparkle rainbow. I shoot sparkles outta my butt now.
Julie Michelson: I'm, I'm still just on bouquets, so I, I'm ready to uplevel
Susan Bratton: Girl, you got to get to Sparkle.
Julie Michelson: ask my
Susan Bratton: Sparkle Ponies we're Sparkle Ponies. So, um, [Page//00:43:00] equilibrium is a, is a probiotic that they developed by taking, um, health healthy fecal material and basically backward engineering what the bacterial, the symbiotic bacteria were. And then turning that into a probiotic. So it's like a fecal transplant, but you don't have to have a fecal transplant.
You're actually taking the probiotic.
Julie Michelson: is it a probiotic or a postbiotics? Now I'm
Susan Bratton: pro, it's
Julie Michelson: It is. Okay. Cuz
Susan Bratton: a, it's a symphony of probiotics.
Julie Michelson: taken one, um, and it's called Fein Biotic, we call it, in my house. We call it the Poop biotic. This is a company that was doing, um, I don't even know what you would call, you know, they, they were distributing the poop for fecal transplants and covid shut them down.
Susan Bratton: Okay.
Julie Michelson: and what they ended up doing is they cleaned the poop and it, it's, you know, it doesn't look like poop or smell like poop, but we, we do call [Page//00:44:00] it poop pills. Same concept. They, they refer to it as a postbiotics. Um, but it's that fecal, it's the goodies in the fecal matter. Um, see, just not where I thought we were going today.
I'm
Susan Bratton: Oh, uh, it always ends up at the gut.
Julie Michelson: It's always, and I always talk about poop. It is always, I dunno.
Susan Bratton: Me too. Yeah, you have to, you can't, you can't do, you can't stack any of this other stuff on top till you're pooping. Well, I mean, it really is your number one goal, so, okay. So let me show you and talk about the femme wave. So the, uh, I'm sorry about the vagina device. This is your at-home device. That's really good.
It's, uh, it's at, it's at vagina device.com. It's called a vfi, and it's an f d a class two vaginal rejuvenation device that has three modes that works simultaneously and synergistically red light. Photobiomodulation up inside the vagina.
Julie Michelson: Such a biohacker.
Susan Bratton: I know. And, um, warmth. It feels so good. The warmth and toning. Uh, it has a [Page//00:45:00] vibration for keel toning.
So what it does is it tightens tones, helps with incontinence. It remodels the glycogen in the vagina so that it's wonderful. There's no smell. If you have a little smell, but it's not that vaginosis, you know, and you're like, Hmm. It makes it, you smell like nothing. Um, it's just, this is, this is my personal experience of it, right?
They market it as an incontinence device because it's very difficult to market rejuvenation devices. So I love.
Julie Michelson: of, of an at-home, uh, there's a, a device we use in the clinic treatments. This is more of like an at-home deal, which I love.
Susan Bratton: right? And so I don't recommend that women go get lasered or RF devices or things like that because they're too damaging for 90% of women. You start with an at-home device, like this vagina device, or you ca and you can layer on the Femmy wave. And Femmy wave is the female version of GAINSWave.
[Page//00:46:00] GAINSWave is what is like the gold standard for guys who want to reverse atrophy, reverse ed, knock the plaque off the arteries, stimulate new nerve and tissue growth. Um, and that's what Femme Wave does and it's administered on the vulva. And the thing that I like about it in combination with the vagina device is that what the femme wave does, you go in for six treatments and I love it.
I have never been more lubricated since getting femmewave and I'm constantly chasing incontinence and it really helps me with that. I have the urge incontinence where I get into my garage, I get out of my car, I'm trying to get
Julie Michelson: and your
Susan Bratton: in my
Julie Michelson: bladder knows your home.
Susan Bratton: and I gotta pee so bad and I gotta take my shoes off cuz I got white carpet and I'm gonna pee my pants.
I hate that. So the femme wave is what I do to keep that at bay and it, it, it's put on your vulva. So it's put on your [Page//00:47:00] labia, your mos, your clitoral structure, your perineal structure. So it helps with not only your inco, not only the incontinence and the loss of lubrication and the laxity, but it also helps beef up your clitoral erectile tissue.
Again, reversing the atrophy of that and. . The only thing out there that plumps the labia back up because they get saggy as you get old and they look like man's balls down there. So it's really nice to get all that tissue plumped up. Joan River says she looked down and she's like, oh my God, it looks like fuzzy, fuzzy rabbit bunny slippers down there.
And I'm like, yeah, I'm not gonna get any fuzzy bunny slippers down there. I'm gonna keep everything nice and rejuvenated. And then if you're going to get femme wave, it's most likely that your femme wave and it's a femme wave.com, it's most likely that your practitioner. Also does the p r p into the [Page//00:48:00] clitoral and urethral
Julie Michelson: The O Shots.
Susan Bratton: So if you have any problem with achieving orgasm, if you have any problem with incontinence, if you've got any kind of tears, pedia, episiotomies, uh, horseback riding, bicycle injuries, things like that, um, getting the p r P into all those hery places and those places that are atrophying will really accelerate the benefits of the femme wave and take it even to the next level.
So let's go over it. It goes from budget. Super down and dirty is take your flow or whatever nitric oxide supplement you want. Next would be get your vagina device for at-home rejuvenation. Next would be add your femme wave, which if you could only do one thing it to me, it would be femme wave. If you can afford it, go straight to that.
And then you don't have to do the vagina device. But if you can't do the vagina device and then cherry on top is your OShot, and if you get an [Page//00:49:00] OShot and you're like, I didn't notice anything, then you need another one because you're
Julie Michelson: this, which I love. Yep,
Susan Bratton: It's like p r P fricking works.
Julie Michelson: it does.
Susan Bratton: your hair, it fixes your skin, it fixes your joints.
It fixes your vulva. Yeah,
Julie Michelson: Well, it's true rejuvenation. I mean, that's what it is, is, is true rejuvenation. I love that. So do you think somebody listening who you know, is still struggling with energy but working on the things, you know, starting with adding nitric oxide into their supplement regimen, is it sounds like you think will be noticeable.
Susan Bratton: Oh yeah. It's fundamental. Yeah. And give it to your husband too.
Julie Michelson: Yes. And they love it. guys love it.
Susan Bratton: two capsules before bed. If you can take two capsules before lovemaking, if you can take and take it whenever you want. It's one of those things like a [Page//00:50:00] probiotic. You can, you can kind of pop it in whenever you can.
It's just gonna replace and ta top up
Julie Michelson: I take two, twice a day. I mean, I, I'm not messing around. Like that's just in my, it's in my stack.
Susan Bratton: Yes,
Julie Michelson: For heart health, for, you know, cir all the good thing again, and, and that's what people don't seem to realize is, you know, any kind of sexual dysfunction is usually an early sign of cardiovascular stuff going on.
Yeah.
Susan Bratton: And if you have insulin dysregulation, you were also having nerve damage because when you have vascular issues, you're not getting the nerves. I innovated, you're not getting the blood supply to the nerves. And then when you have insulin dysregulation of any kind, your, uh, your essentially, your nerves don't operate.
Right. The inflammation wrecks your nerve sensitivity, so you lose feeling. Um, so if you have like edema, if your, if your ankles swell, if your, if you have tingling numbness, these [Page//00:51:00] are both signs of vascular and neuro neurologic, uh, issues.
Julie Michelson: and we tend, people tend to, we all normalize, uh, what's going on. These, this is, these are signs that we need to address underlying issues, um, which I love. Oh my gosh, I definitely wanna have you come back. , we have so much more to, so much more to talk about. Um, I always ask, I think I know what you're gonna say, but it's an opportunity to say whatever you want.
Um, I love to have you give listeners, you know, one. It can take today to start to move the needle in the right direction.
Susan Bratton: Yeah. I'm gonna give you something that's a real wild card.
Julie Michelson: Awesome. Love it.
Susan Bratton: I have, um, something new that I've recently created because we've been talking about the health side of things. But in all honesty, one of the things that happens is that we, we end up doing the same o samos in our sex life, and that gets boring.
[Page//00:52:00] And remember when I mentioned earlier, one of the things I should do when I come back is we should talk more about orgasmic cross training.
Julie Michelson: Ooh,
Susan Bratton: should talk about the toys that I recommend, why I recommend them, how to do it. The different types of female pleasure, the different types of male pleasure. I think that people don't even understand that they're working in a chocolate, vanilla world when it's sparkle rainbow territory.
So one of the things I like to do is basically be aspirational. I like to give people ideas of how to expand their pleasure because the more that you're confident and you know what you're going for, the more I give you the ideas, the more you were like, oh, that's a good idea. I can do that, right? You don't know where to go.
And then I give you the idea and you're like, oh, that's awesome. So I wanna give you something called my Sex life bucket list. It's at sex life bucket list.com. and it is 48 erotic play dates that you can do, [Page//00:53:00] and you do not need a partner for many, many, many of them. So even if you're a solo flyer right now, your sex life is your sex life and it's part of your personal growth.
And so you can continue to do these things too. You go to Sex Life bucket list and you get two things from me. It's free. The first one is a personalized sex life. It's an eight page printout, which by the way has all the toys I recommend for orgasmic cross training on the last page. It has all kinds of links to all the devices and things I've talked about.
That's all there as a resource too. But what I like about this is it essentially, let's just say you do have a partner, and you can do this on solo, but if you have a partner, you get, you print out the download twice, give your partner one, and you have one, and it comes with a video where I walk you through each one of 48 erotic play dates and you mark them A, B, or C.
A is, oh, this is definitely going on [Page//00:54:00] my
Julie Michelson: do it.
Susan Bratton: You know, we talked about doing that. We never did it kind of thing B is, well, it's not the thing I'd go on my bucket list, but if my partner wanted to do it, I would totally do it. It might be their bucket list and csr. It's not for me right now. Never say never.
And by the way, nothing on this list is going to make you guys go, Ew. There's a lot of stuff out there with a lot of freaky things on it. My brand of sex, if you will, if sex could have a brand, is heart connected, conscious, like we're awake, we're aware, we're conversational, we're not hiding, we're not pretending.
It's not happening. We're we're present with each other. Passionate. It feels good. We're playing off each other. It's loving. It's like we're turning each other on just being together. Lovemaking, heart connected, conscious, passionate lovemaking. That's my brand. So the things on this 48 erotic play dates are [Page//00:55:00] sweet, sexy, sassy, spicy darling, wonderful things.
And when you come up with your A list and your partner comes up with their A list, then you kind of merge them. And instead of having, oh God, we should be having sex and I know he wants me to have sex with them. You go, you move into, we're not having sex a k a, the goal is intercourse and we're just gonna go there too fast.
And then one more brick in my wall kind of thing. It's, oh, now we're doing play dates. And so now you have erotic play dates. And I'll give you, I've done a play date with my husband this week and I'm doing another one. The play date I did with him, the other, not last night, but the night be last night we had to watch White Lotus the night before , the night before.
Julie Michelson: So wait a minute. You're not always having sex all the time.
Susan Bratton: No, no, no, no. We, you know,
Julie Michelson: every, every day is not a play date.
Susan Bratton: No. But, um, the other night we used this new tool called The Handy. It's [Page//00:56:00] a, a sleeve that goes over his penis and this little device slides the sleeve up and down. And so we were literally lying there and he was, he had it on and he was messing with the buttons, trying to figure out how to make it work and, and like pushing all the buttons and it wasn't working.
And I'm like, hang on. And I get my phone out and I turn on the, the flashlight and I'm shining the flashlight and we're laughing. We're just laughing and laughing cuz we're trying this toy and I've got the light on, you know, and it's like, we're such nerds and we just had a really good time doing it. It was a really fun experience.
Tomorrow night or tonight, I, whenever we get to it, I'm trying a new product called The Booty Femme, which is a tiny little insertion into your rectum. A little, what are called butt plugs. Um, that's woman sized from fun factory. It's, um, it, you can put it in while you have intercourse. It doesn't get in the way.
And it's petite, it's diminutive. [Page//00:57:00] And I've, I'm not a big kind of backdoor play gal. I've done it, but I always lean toward pissing oral pleasuring, intercourse, things like that. That's just kind of my, my thing. I like lingerie photo shoots. I like trying new toys. I like those kinds of things. And so those are all of course on here.
But, uh, we're gonna try the booty fem and I'm looking forward to it, and so is my husband. So we're always trying new things and this is what we do as erotic play dates. Cuz I don't like sex dates. I mean, I just feel like, okay, but I'm not even turned on,
Julie Michelson: Right. But I have to, cuz I said I would,
Susan Bratton: Yeah. And I don't like that.
Julie Michelson: I wanna highlight because, you know, I would say on the one hand, you, you take sex and intimacy seriously.
Susan Bratton: I do.
Julie Michelson: But I lo I wanna highlight cuz I talk about it with, with healing period, is the importance of fun. And so I just wanna [Page//00:58:00] highlight how you're saying, you know, like you were laughing, you were having fun and that's sexy even if the gadget isn't doing what it's supposed to or you know, you're in it together.
That's that, that partnership piece.
Susan Bratton: the new relationship energy that you can have any time in your sex life when you try new things together. That's why having erotic play dates is better than having sex. And that's why I made the sex life bucket list, because it's not enough to learn techniques. You need the good ideas for fun things to do together, and that's what I created.
And then that's a, that's an on-ramp to all kinds of techniques. So now, now you've got access to, okay, I could learn this from her. I could learn this from her. Or, I'll just do this stuff that's free. I just wanna meet you where you are, and this is a way I can do it, is just give you the ideas and let you find what your path is to your greater pleasure.
That's my goal.
Julie Michelson: Amazing. And what a, what an incredible gift. I [Page//00:59:00] want to, I know we're at time, but I wanna circle back also to what you said, your, your brand. You
Susan Bratton: Yeah, I know.
Julie Michelson: you do, uh, um, of sex. I is, we're, you know, we're talking about, like you said, this, this is for people flying solo. This is for people in a partnership.
It doesn't matter. When I think of the, the words that you said, heart connected, conscious, present, lovemaking,
Susan Bratton: yeah,
Julie Michelson: will even somebody. Who is flying solo. I mean, those are all beautiful healing things that we need to work on, and what a fun way to do it. Um, so I just, I wanna, because I, I know that there is a, a variety out there and listeners, and I was somebody who was, I was, I didn't date for.
over 15 years. I was, when I was sick, I was, I kind of retreated and then I was working on myself. I was working on my health, I was working on. And, and [Page//01:00:00] so that's why when I say it's never too late, like as I'm talking from personal experience, um, you know, I have the most magical relationship beyond anything I've ever
Susan Bratton: Hmm.
Julie Michelson: And, and fun. So much fun. Um, so it is really never too late. It doesn't matter. And that's starting on working with you, you know, working on yourself, loving yourself is the best starting point. So you set it on air, we're gonna have you back. Cuz I
Susan Bratton: I will. , of course,
Julie Michelson: I wanna talk about, you know, the, the toys and the, and the cross training.
Um, a and, you know, let li listeners start with this incredible gift and they'll be ready to take it to the next level for the next
Susan Bratton: sounds so great. Thank you so much for having me, Julie. And if you do the sex life bucket list with your man, I would love to know what's on your sex life bucket list. It's always interesting for me to get the feedback. If you're a [Page//01:01:00] listener and you're doing it, you'll be on my email list if you opt in for the sex life bucket list.
And if you reply to any email I send you, it goes personally to my inbox and it's private. So the way that I got to be as good as I am is that people trust me with their most personal questions. And I just wanna let you know that I am here for you. If there was anything I said you didn't understand, I've got tons of assets to point you in the right direction.
So I really am here for you. My passion is passion. My passion is your passion. So, uh, hit me up anytime. And Julie, thanks for having me. Definitely come back and, um, I really appreciate y how much fun it was and yay for the goo gluten bee gone and the poops rainbow poops.
Julie Michelson: Rainbow poops! We all have new, new aspirations now, I love it. Susan, thank you so, so much For everyone listening. Remember, you can get the show notes and transcripts by visiting inspired living.show. [Page//01:02:00] I hope you had a great time. I hope we surprised you a little bit, and I hope you enjoyed this episode as much as I did.
I'll see you next week.
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Susan Bratton "Intimacy Expert to Millions" is a champion and advocate for all those who desire intimacy and passion their whole life long.
She is co-founder and CEO of two corporations: Personal Life Media, Inc., a publisher of heart-connected lovemaking techniques and bedroom communication skills and The20, LLC., a manufacturer of organic and botanical supplements that enhance vitality.
Susan has been featured in the New York Times and on CNBC and the TODAY Show. She makes frequent appearances on ABC, CBS, The CW, Fox and NBC.
She is co-founder and CEO of two corporations: Personal Life Media, Inc., a publisher of heart-connected lovemaking techniques and bedroom communication skills and The20, LLC., a manufacturer of organic and botanical supplements that enhance vitality.
Susan has been featured in the New York Times and on CNBC and the TODAY Show. She makes frequent appearances on ABC, CBS, The CW, Fox and NBC.
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