Episode 28
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In today’s episode, we are joined by Jodi Sternoff Cohen, founder of Vibrant Blue Oils and author of the best-selling book Essential Oils to Boost the Brain and Heal the Body. Our conversation explores the importance of being in the parasympathetic state in order to heal. Jodi offers a great shortcut for the practice of the Parasympathetic Pause with her Parasympathetic oil and how she has helped thousands heal from brain related challenges.
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Julie Michelson: Welcome back to the inspired living with auto-immunity podcast. I'm your host, Julie Michelson. And today I'm thrilled to share my conversation with Jodi Sternoff Cohen author of the bestselling book, essential oils to boost the brain and heal the body friend and founder of vibrant blue or. Jody has helped over 150,000 clients heal from brain-related challenges, [00:01:00] including anxiety, insomnia, and you guessed it: auto-immunity we're going to explore the importance of the parasympathetic state in healing. And Jodie has the most incredible shortcut to achieving the parasympathetic pause.
[00:01:18] Jodi welcome to the podcast. I'm so excited to have you today,
[00:01:22] Jodi Cohen: Thank you. It's always fun to connect.
[00:01:23] Julie Michelson: I would love to start off by telling listeners, you know, how did, how did you just share a little bit of your story? How did you come to create vibrant blue oils?
[00:01:36] Jodi Cohen: Yeah, it's funny. You know, I was always absent, so I thought I was healthy. And then I had my second child who was a handful. I kept taking parenting classes and our big cube. We used to point to our nose and be like, look at my nose. And he couldn't look at the nose. He was so ABD and so all over the place.
[00:01:54] And one day we were at a birthday party and the friend complimented me on how well behaved she happened to be [00:02:00] that day. And then another mom passed out Ritz crackers. He took one bite Jekyll hided, and like took off. And after I like sprinted after him and brought him back, she said, that's really interesting.
[00:02:11] I'd never seen him flip from food. You know, my brother was on Ritalin. And it turned out, he was just allergic to weird foods. You should take them to a nutritionist. And I thought that's easy enough. You know, I've tried everything else. I'd read like 17 books that point, you know, to continue nutritionist basically said he's allergic to corn, soy and dairy changes diet.
[00:02:32] We changed his bed and within two days, and I thought now he's insane. Like it was real. I was really floored by how. Significantly food impacted mood and behaviors. So I went and got a degree in nutrition and I was trying to help other moms with busy kids. And I learned this handy technique called muscle testing because I'm in Seattle with best year.
[00:02:54] And basically it's a way of really quickly assessing if a is going to work or not. And what the best [00:03:00] remedy is, and that came in handy oils and covered my life during my own rock bottom. My then husband had to be hospitalized for depression. And once I knew he was safe and he wasn't going to die on my watch, it was finally saved for my adrenals to collapse and they, they hit really hard.
[00:03:20] Basically my kids were five and seven. I could barely get up from bed. I would wake up with them, make them breakfast. Driving to school, come home, crawl back into bed and set the alarm for pickup. And it was so unsustainable. And at that point I knew it was my adrenals. I knew what I should be eating.
[00:03:39] Nothing was working, you know, it was kind of treading water wasn't. I was still able to get up with them and kind of function, but I wasn't really showing up. I was like class parent. I had a job, like so many things just weren't happening. You know, walking up the stairs felt overwhelmed. The laundry wasn't happening.
[00:03:56] It was just a disaster. And [00:04:00] fortunately, I, you know, prior to crashing, I had been kind of overachiever and I had helped a friend with a fundraiser who, as a thank you gift brought me a big box of oils. And when she was dropping them off, she said, something really intriguing. She said, you know, You've been so high stressed for so long, and we know that high stress means high cortisol and systemic inflammation.
[00:04:22] I think your gut is toast. I bet. The reason, nothing you're ingesting is helping is because it's not actually getting into your system for your digestive tract oils. You know, you can smell them, you can topically apply them. This could work. And that was intriguing enough that I was like, Hmm. So knowing less than testing, I muscle tested the box boils.
[00:04:41] When anything I'm here to help my dream. Got a really powerful yes. Which is really, I'm like, wow, hope this is encouraging. And then I couldn't narrow it down beyond these five oils. I kept getting the same five oils, which was unusual because usually I was able to get one remedy, two remedies, and then I had this [00:05:00] idea like, oh, wait a minute.
[00:05:00] They're liquid. Maybe I can combine them. And so I took the five oils and tested it. I drilled down further, you know, like three drops of this. I had never played with oils before I put 'em in a shot glass, put them on my adrenals on my low back and within literally, almost immediately, I was like, oh wow.
[00:05:17] I can go running. You know, I'm a lifelong runner. I was like, Ooh, I didn't have the energy to walk up the stairs, but I'm going to go for three mile ride came back. I know. Did the laundry went to the supermarket, made their favorite meal? Like it was like, oh my gosh. And I kept doing that and kept thinking like that it's super weird, but it works like, why not?
[00:05:36] So I kept making up other things, you know, because I had been practicing long enough. I kind of knew like, oh, the hypothalamus is off. Oh, this is interesting. Can smell it. If it gets to the brain, like I just kept winging it. It's almost like, you know, you have three food items in your house and your kids are hungry.
[00:05:52] Like let's create a new sandwich that maybe they'll eat, you know, and they chew it and you're like, all right, that one's on. And so then when I kind of [00:06:00] started to feel better, my friends were all intrigued. They're like, we want to try it, you know, and I had this whole nutritional therapy community, so everyone was kind of playing with it.
[00:06:08] And then I finally went online because it was like, I I'm curious why this. And I was super surprised. First of all, that no one was really looking at oil combinations, kind of through the lens of balancing organ systems and regions of the brain. And also they made it so incredibly complicated. Like if I had had the bandwidth to start with research, I would have thought I was unqualified and I would never have started.
[00:06:33] And so that's kind of how it got kicked off. And then we went to the nutritional therapy conference. It was like, you know, I wonder if this, this works for me. I don't know if other people like it. And I think we brought like a hundred test kits because we thought maybe there would be 200 people there.
[00:06:49] We sold out the first day and I was like, oh, this is interesting people, people want this. So I just kind of throw it online. You know, I'd fill orders. I do yoga every [00:07:00] morning. So like fill orders and bring them in my little Lulu bag and put it in the post office on the way to yoga. And that's really how.
[00:07:08] Julie Michelson: That is amazing. And there's so many serendipitous factors starting from, you know, realizing that what your son was eating. I mean, it, it, it is unexciting. I say, how'd you start this oil company and we start back with, oh, my son had such EDD, but it was food sensitivities. But what I love about it was, was, and I want listeners to like really see it.
[00:07:36] It was you being. Right. You just stayed open. You found this one thing that kind of blew your mind. It was so simple, but yet you don't, you know, already done all this research. And you just, that that's where you, how you got to where you are is because you stayed curious and open and having for anybody who's not familiar with muscle testing, you know, [00:08:00] having that.
[00:08:00] Tool for those of us that are familiar, it is a tool. And that's exactly, you know, if you didn't have that tool, Your story probably would be really different and maybe it would have been a shorter exploration with oils. But you, I mean, it really was a way for you to literally just know, you know, to trust yourself.
[00:08:20] And, and that's what I wanted to circle back for listeners. There's a, this combo of being open and then trusting yourself and. And realizing. Cause sometimes even when something's working, if we don't understand how or why the, you know, we don't, we don't follow the path if it doesn't make sense. And so I love that and I know what a gift your oils are.
[00:08:43] I use them, I recommend them to my clients all the time. And the people that I love in my life. So I was laughing when you were talking about, and I'm thinking of the lucky people. I know we're all really excited when you show up at a conference because you always have amazing videos [00:09:00] and, and it's always like, oh, I can't wait to see what, what she's working on now. So you talked about your adrenals being tanked. Well, some of my listeners can likely relate in one way or another to their adrenals being tanked. I too remember. Getting the kids off to school and getting back in bed until it was time to pick them up, because that was the only way I would have the energy, you know, book-ending the day to, to mom to be the mom.
[00:09:28] I want to talk about, you know, how important you, you mentioned, you know, of course you weren't absorbing and digesting because you were in that sympathetic.
[00:09:39] Jodi Cohen: Yeah.
[00:09:39] Julie Michelson: Just response. Say, let's talk about, start with square one. Let's talk about what is the parasympathetic state and why do we need to achieve it?
[00:09:50] And then you have just the most amazing, I think, easy way to do it.
[00:09:56] Jodi Cohen: Thank you. Yeah. So for people that don't know, your [00:10:00] autonomic nervous system sounds complicated, but it really just controls your automatic functions, autonomic automatic breathing, heart rate, digestion, immune function. Anti-inflammation all the things you don't think about. And it's really designed to keep you alive. perceives everything, all of the senses, give it input and it has, you know, just like your car. You can speed up, you can slow down to kind of speed up and accelerate. There's danger. Either have to fight back or run away or play. That's called your sympathetic branch of your nervous system. And it's really not designed to be, you know, kind of going full throttle all the time.
[00:10:40] It's supposed to be like, wow, there's a danger. I survive it. And then I go back into what's called parasympathetic where it's like restoration, regeneration and healing, you know, think about you're having a party at your house. You clean everything you make, call this food. Everyone comes, it kind of gets the students [00:11:00] everywhere.
[00:11:00] You know, there are drink glasses everywhere. They all go home and you clean up the house and you repair it. It's not like you're constantly entertaining and running out of food. So that's kind of, your sympathetic is supposed to be kind of short and brief sprints of survival. And then your parasympathetic is supposed to kick in and you're able to recover sadly.
[00:11:23] It's not just a physical stress, like a tiger chasing you down the street. It can be an anticipatory stress in our emotional stress, you know, for those of us that have anxiety that's future worry. Oh my gosh, this could happen. That could happen. So our brain doesn't know the difference between anticipatory stress and physical, actual.
[00:11:41] So we can get stuck in what's called sympathetic overdrive and it creates this total maladaptive stress response where you're always anxious. You're always overwhelmed. You never turn off. It might interfere with your sleeping. In my presentence weight gain is inflammation as pain as all of these [00:12:00] things.
[00:12:00] So it is oh, and the gear shift between these two states is cranial nerve number 10 longest nerve in the body that most people have never heard. It's the vagus nerve, which means wandering in Latin because it connects the brain to the rest of the body, starts at the base of the head, splits ones around both sides of their neck.
[00:12:19] If you actually feel. Behind your ear lobe, there's kind of a divot between your ear lobe and the bone, the mastered them. That's an important point. That's where I actually have people stimulate the vagus nerve and turn on their sympathetic nervous system. Think of it as a gear shift. This is the gear shift, you know, and divots can always find an acupuncture place with divots.
[00:12:41] So there was a lot of research. This guy, Kevin Tracy, a neurology. Was playing with stimulating the vagus nerve. He actually it's a surgery. He inserted a pacemaker like device right there, and then another one in the chest. So two surgeries, you know, if the battery runs out, you have to repeat surgery, but by [00:13:00] using an electrical charge to stimulate the vagus nerve, he was able to help with depression, with migraines with inflammatory things, with epilepsy and the FDA approved this.
[00:13:13] There are lots of ways to activate your vagus nerve, you know, did she is Carozzi and is one of my favorites. He talks about gagging yourself with a tongue depressor, gargling, splashing your face with freezing water. You know, they're breathing techniques, meditation, all of these things work. It's just about compliance.
[00:13:29] Most people can say like, Hey, what if I send your face? They're like, no, not today. I will take a hard pass. But what I realized is that you can take a combination of essential oils. I use. Because it's highly stimulatory and lime, and it's really, you know, it's like anything that you mix together when you combine these two, you get super stimulatory and fast acting.
[00:13:53] So I just it's, it's literally an essential oil bottle. I flip it, flip it back and put it behind the [00:14:00] ear lobe. And it literally is that gear shift. Like, I, I have anxiety all the time. I get overwhelmed and I'm able to be like, okay, I'm just gonna check. I'm going to pause, I'm going to pull back and I'm like, my daughter makes fun of me.
[00:14:16] She's like, is that a current Shetty problem or a future journey problem? I realized in my mental loop or like future gee, there's nothing I can do about that today. It's either going to happen or it's not. And you know, today I can focus on this and it's amazing. It calms me down immediately.
[00:14:34] Julie Michelson: And it, it is, excuse me. It is fantastic. I have used it. And as I said, I, I recommended, I, I love you're talking about compliance because we do know there are so many things, you know Not, not as extreme as surgery and thank goodness, you know, that, that surgery really taught us a lot. Right. It gave us this idea of like, okay, how else can we do that?
[00:14:59] Jodi Cohen: yeah.
[00:14:59] Julie Michelson: But like [00:15:00] you said, with anything and being a coach, I know compliance is key. If I can't get somebody to do something consistently I, you know, it's, I have so many clients who know. Exercises or no ways that work for them to stimulate their vagus nerve and they just don't do them or they don't do them regularly.
[00:15:20] So I love how easy the oil is.
[00:15:24] Jodi Cohen: Well, and you know, it's really interesting. Like there's a lot of research around smell as a trigger, you know, like my Grammy used to wear lavender proceedings. So whenever I smell lavender, I think of her, you know, there, there a, you can almost use smell it. It's almost like a Pavlovian experience. Like the dog hears the bell rang and know there's food coming, you smell this.
[00:15:44] And you're like, oh yeah, I get you to. It trains you and, and it's, it's just a really easy way to get there. You know, people who meditate, sometimes they have a mantra. Sometimes they have a certain setting. It's just a cue to your body. Like, oh yes. I crossed the finish line. I [00:16:00] can calm down.
[00:16:01] Julie Michelson: Yeah. And cause as you said, I just had this conversation this morning. Actually I say it all the time. We don't, you're aware you, if you get in the forward thinking anxiety loop, you, you clearly are very aware of that. But even without that people say to me all the time, oh, I'm not stressed. And then I look at what's going on in their life and I'm like, yeah, You don't actually necessarily need to be aware that you're feeling stressed out.
[00:16:29] I say anybody living on this earth in this moment is experiencing chronic stress. And as you mentioned, our system, isn't set up for that. We're set up for acute. And so I was thinking of when you were talking about stressors, the other thing people often don't consider are positive stressors. The body doesn't know the difference.
[00:16:51] Something like buying a new house or moving or getting married or wonderful thing, having a baby, all of these things are [00:17:00] wonderful.
[00:17:01] Jodi Cohen: Yeah.
[00:17:01] Julie Michelson: And they're also stressors and, and tend to overlay, you know, when nobody has just one thing going on in this day and age.
[00:17:12] Jodi Cohen: That's completely valid and indicators that you're stressed. I mean, you can like check your heart rate and kind of see getting contested heart rate variability. Are you bouncing back quickly? You know, it's very obvious if you feel you're having panic attacks, feeling anxious, feeling overwhelmed, you know, pain is an indication of stress here.
[00:17:30] Mental energy being able to focus, you know, Feeling exhausted more than you usually are. All of these things. And here's the good news, you know, I, I really do think the body can heal. You know, I, I joke I live in Seattle and you know, if you want to drive to Portland, it's a couple hours south and I five, you know, maybe you went in the wrong direction and you realize, oh wait, I'm going north.
[00:17:51] You can always turn around. You can always. Returned to balance, you know, and you, that is within your control. Like, I [00:18:00] love that quote by a Holocaust survivor, Viktor Frankl's man's search for meaning, you know, between the stimulus and the response. There is a space and that's the space that I call the parasympathetic part.
[00:18:12] And what I really, the message. I really want people to hear. I mean, there's a lot that's happening right now that feels very outside of our control. And that can really feel overwhelming, especially if one of your you know, coping strategies is to try to control things and you have no idea, you know, you might have a trip planned and you know, is the airline, it's an airplane going to, you know, what is it?
[00:18:34] I think all the flights got canceled blend day, you know, that's outside of
[00:18:37] Julie Michelson: That's what I was with you that day.
[00:18:40] Jodi Cohen: Yeah.
[00:18:41] Julie Michelson: I didn't know if I was going to get home. Yeah. I mean, there's just so much going on right now that so much unknown.
[00:18:47] Jodi Cohen: Yes exactly. But our flight did get canceled at the 11th hour, you know, and I had returned the car and we didn't have a place to even get our bags and I'm like all outside and that control like nothing I [00:19:00] can do about that. So I'm just going to calm my nervous system so that I can think clearly, because this is really interesting.
[00:19:06] One of the things that the parasympathetic nervous system changes is your. Your pupils get bigger and black part of your eyes, and it's called selective attention because, you know, if you're contemplating your navel and Alliance chasing, you're probably going to die. You really just need to focus on your options at the moment, but that shuts down your access to kind of your higher cognitive problem solving.
[00:19:27] So, so many of us are kind of in this survival panic state and we can't access. Access our higher problem-solving skills. So step one is to calm your nervous system. You know, like once I was able to calm down, I'm like, all right, priorities, rebooking the flight number one. So we'll, we'll take care of that.
[00:19:47] Cause I need to know if I need to find a new hotel, how many days does the airline want us to stay somewhere? Did we get to pick and what's available? You know, like once you're kind of aware of what your options are, you can work within those parameters. So. [00:20:00] That's that's really kind of my biggest headline.
[00:20:04] Julie Michelson: is, is so huge. And I need to really drive home. When you said, you know, you believe the body can heal, the body can heal. It's designed to heal. And anybody listening to this has probably heard my story and knows, you know, I, I always say, you know, it's never too late. It doesn't matter whether it's physical, whether it's emotional, mental, whatever it is you're dealing with.
[00:20:31] Like you said, you can always turn the car around. And I, I, you know, I work with people that are just diagnosed. I work with people that have been struggling for decades and decades, and this first step has to be. Three introducing that parasympathetic state into your life. And that is why they call it rest and digest.
[00:20:53] It is the healing state. And so when people say, well, I'm not stressed, or I don't want to work on [00:21:00] mindset because it's a physical problem. It's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We need to be in that.
[00:21:06] Jodi Cohen: you can't clean the house. If you can't open the front door, you know, like
[00:21:10] Julie Michelson: Yup.
[00:21:11] Jodi Cohen: step for everything and then it makes everything else. You know, like just the minute I kind of realized, like, I I've limited options. I'm going to let that go. I'm just going to kind of see what's available in it. And it all worked out.
[00:21:27] Julie Michelson: Yeah. Oh, and it always does. I mean, that's the thing. If we don't get caught in the, in the tizzy, I believe at least my experience has been, it takes practice to. Put yourself in that state or take that parasympathetic pause, find it, be aware that you have that power.
[00:21:50] Jodi Cohen: Yes.
[00:21:51] Julie Michelson: you know, people always say to me, well, you know, I'll, I'll do it when I'm stressed and I'm like, oh, but if it's not in your toolbox, you can't reach for it if you don't [00:22:00] have the tool.
[00:22:00] And so. And I, I do find, I'm sure you see this all the time. People when you're in a situation like that, and you take your parasympathetic pause, people are amazed. They're like, how did you handle that, that way? It's like, well, you know, there is this space. So how do you go about, you know, setting the routine that allows that to be the tool in your toolbox?
[00:22:25] Jodi Cohen: Yeah, I really, I I'm very religious about a morning and evening routine. Like. I always start the day with gratitude because gratitude actually puts you in a space of parasympathetic and then goals. I kind of combine gratitude and goals and it could be something like I could wake up and be like, wow, that is such a pretty sunrise.
[00:22:44] Or my dog could be like, especially cuter when he was a puppy, like Aiden, he on the bed, you know, that kind of thing. It could be. It's silly, but, and then at the end of the day, I really tried to kind of wind down and again, what am I grateful for about today and what am I [00:23:00] looking forward to tomorrow?
[00:23:00] What's important to me. So I do, like, I tell people when they start you just leave it by your toothbrush. You know, everyone knows to brush their teeth first thing in the morning and. And just do it then. And the most people, what they realize is like, oh, this helps. Like, I feel good. And so sometimes they like, don't leave home without it.
[00:23:17] And it's always in their purse, so it's in their pocket. But to start, you know, just three times a day, like first thing in the morning before bed, if that's how he can handle, that's fabulous. If you want to start adding it, you know, before meals so that you are in a more receptive state to digest your food.
[00:23:33] Great. And then as needed, like, I think. I probably used it every five minutes. You know, when you
[00:23:40] Julie Michelson: I love that. That is so amazing. I was doing a round table over the weekend and somebody was asking me for tips about. You know, how do you get yourself in the state to digest your food? And I, I had a few tips, but I'm totally stealing [00:24:00] on an anti mat into the repertoire, because that is, as you mentioned, it was such a part of your journey.
[00:24:05] We can't observe or nutrients when we're in fight or flight. And so we need those nutrients to heal and we need them to function. And so I love that idea.
[00:24:16] Jodi Cohen: Well, as, you know, a mom, like that's something, oh my God. The struggle to get my kids to take supplements, you know, I've grind them up and apple sauce. But, you know what, like putting something behind their ear or on the bottom of their seat, that was easy. No, no pushback, no struggle.
[00:24:34] Julie Michelson: That's amazing. I I'm, I'm so excited because you just totally, you always do every time I talk to you, I get new ideas and new tools, but I love so the, the specific oil that we're referring to today,
[00:24:51] Jodi Cohen: Parasympathetic. You can actually, if you go to, I talked about this a lot in my book, essential oils to boost the brain and heal the body. If you go [00:25:00] to boost the brand. Dot com backslash gift. You can download a guide, a free guide of like all the different ways. If you're, if you're not in a Royal person that you can activate your parasympathetic nervous system, but there is then a coupon for the parasympathetic oil, which is clothing line smells great, smells like a half gallon box just right behind your ear lobe, but the divot between your ear lobe and that bone, which is your master down is the perfect application.
[00:25:26] And if you want to even try it now, just take your fingers and kind of gently massage there that that helps to activate your vagus nerve most accessible. They're closest to the surface and, you know, stimulate your calming response.
[00:25:39] Julie Michelson: I love that and see, you just gave me a new, I hadn't even thought about it. And next time I use it, I'm going to think about, I have dollar box.
[00:25:47] Jodi Cohen: Yeah.
[00:25:48] Julie Michelson: There's plenty of listeners who have no idea what that is, but if you do now, you know what the oil smells like. Yeah.
[00:25:56] Jodi Cohen: It just smells like and like yumminess.
[00:25:58] Julie Michelson: Happy. It smells [00:26:00] happy, but more important than how it smells, although it is essential, a smells good. So you want to put it on as what it, what it can do for you. And like I said, I've not only have I used it myself, but I recommend it often with my clients because it works. And as you said, it's so easy to do that.
[00:26:20] People are compliant and it, and it really does allow you. To heal or manager daily things that come up.
[00:26:31] Jodi Cohen: Yeah, it's an easy one. You know, like I spec it plans. Maybe not oil don't need to change on my clothes. Don't need to do anything else. Don't need you to adjust anything that.
[00:26:42] Julie Michelson: Yeah. I love it. I love it so much. And I will add. When we visit the parasympathetic state, when we take that parasympathetic pause, you know, I mentioned how in a stressful situation, people notice. But also I can tell you you're, you're a [00:27:00] better mother, a better partner, a better friend, a better.
[00:27:05] Jodi Cohen: Like. No, I'm serious. There's so many times when you know, all the alarms are going off and I'm like, I'm just going to be coming. It's going to out, you know, and the less that I react to the baster, like she processes through.
[00:27:21] Julie Michelson: Yeah. So I call this a cheat for me. This, this is the shortcut to the parasympathetic pause because it is so easy. It's no excuses. I always ask, so I know listeners are waiting at the end for the, what your tip is going to be. I'm pretty sure I know what it is, one step that listeners can take today to start to improve their health would be.
[00:27:45] Jodi Cohen: Her parasympathetic pause. I find whales to easiest, but again, I have 25 strategies. Most of them fray. If you go to boost the brain book.com backslash, if you can download a guide that goes into more detail about the [00:28:00] parasympathetic nervous. You're like me and you like to read things and maybe highlight and then gives you 25 strategies that you can start today, you know?
[00:28:08] Julie Michelson: it. And the easiest of which is the oil and telling you guys get the oil. It's amazing. So before we wrap up, I will have links in the show notes, but where's the best place for listeners to find you if they're intrigued and they want to learn more.
[00:28:21] Jodi Cohen: My website is vibrant blue oils.com. We have tons of blog posts. We go into a lot more detail. You can take some assessments and see, you know, what the best oil might be for you. And just kind of learn more about how you can topically apply essential oils on acupuncture points to balance organ systems and regions.
[00:28:42] Julie Michelson: I love it. Jodi, thank you so much for being with us today. You shared amazing gold and really I cannot encourage listeners enough to, A focus on, finding that parasympathetic pause, but really your oils, all of them, but the [00:29:00] parasympathetic is amazing and it really is a shortcut to healing.
[00:29:04] For everyone listening. Remember you can get the show notes and transcripts by visiting inspired living.show. I hope you had a great time and enjoyed this episode as much as I did. I will see you next week.
[00:01:18] Jodi welcome to the podcast. I'm so excited to have you today,
[00:01:22] Jodi Cohen: Thank you. It's always fun to connect.
[00:01:23] Julie Michelson: I would love to start off by telling listeners, you know, how did, how did you just share a little bit of your story? How did you come to create vibrant blue oils?
[00:01:36] Jodi Cohen: Yeah, it's funny. You know, I was always absent, so I thought I was healthy. And then I had my second child who was a handful. I kept taking parenting classes and our big cube. We used to point to our nose and be like, look at my nose. And he couldn't look at the nose. He was so ABD and so all over the place.
[00:01:54] And one day we were at a birthday party and the friend complimented me on how well behaved she happened to be [00:02:00] that day. And then another mom passed out Ritz crackers. He took one bite Jekyll hided, and like took off. And after I like sprinted after him and brought him back, she said, that's really interesting.
[00:02:11] I'd never seen him flip from food. You know, my brother was on Ritalin. And it turned out, he was just allergic to weird foods. You should take them to a nutritionist. And I thought that's easy enough. You know, I've tried everything else. I'd read like 17 books that point, you know, to continue nutritionist basically said he's allergic to corn, soy and dairy changes diet.
[00:02:32] We changed his bed and within two days, and I thought now he's insane. Like it was real. I was really floored by how. Significantly food impacted mood and behaviors. So I went and got a degree in nutrition and I was trying to help other moms with busy kids. And I learned this handy technique called muscle testing because I'm in Seattle with best year.
[00:02:54] And basically it's a way of really quickly assessing if a is going to work or not. And what the best [00:03:00] remedy is, and that came in handy oils and covered my life during my own rock bottom. My then husband had to be hospitalized for depression. And once I knew he was safe and he wasn't going to die on my watch, it was finally saved for my adrenals to collapse and they, they hit really hard.
[00:03:20] Basically my kids were five and seven. I could barely get up from bed. I would wake up with them, make them breakfast. Driving to school, come home, crawl back into bed and set the alarm for pickup. And it was so unsustainable. And at that point I knew it was my adrenals. I knew what I should be eating.
[00:03:39] Nothing was working, you know, it was kind of treading water wasn't. I was still able to get up with them and kind of function, but I wasn't really showing up. I was like class parent. I had a job, like so many things just weren't happening. You know, walking up the stairs felt overwhelmed. The laundry wasn't happening.
[00:03:56] It was just a disaster. And [00:04:00] fortunately, I, you know, prior to crashing, I had been kind of overachiever and I had helped a friend with a fundraiser who, as a thank you gift brought me a big box of oils. And when she was dropping them off, she said, something really intriguing. She said, you know, You've been so high stressed for so long, and we know that high stress means high cortisol and systemic inflammation.
[00:04:22] I think your gut is toast. I bet. The reason, nothing you're ingesting is helping is because it's not actually getting into your system for your digestive tract oils. You know, you can smell them, you can topically apply them. This could work. And that was intriguing enough that I was like, Hmm. So knowing less than testing, I muscle tested the box boils.
[00:04:41] When anything I'm here to help my dream. Got a really powerful yes. Which is really, I'm like, wow, hope this is encouraging. And then I couldn't narrow it down beyond these five oils. I kept getting the same five oils, which was unusual because usually I was able to get one remedy, two remedies, and then I had this [00:05:00] idea like, oh, wait a minute.
[00:05:00] They're liquid. Maybe I can combine them. And so I took the five oils and tested it. I drilled down further, you know, like three drops of this. I had never played with oils before I put 'em in a shot glass, put them on my adrenals on my low back and within literally, almost immediately, I was like, oh wow.
[00:05:17] I can go running. You know, I'm a lifelong runner. I was like, Ooh, I didn't have the energy to walk up the stairs, but I'm going to go for three mile ride came back. I know. Did the laundry went to the supermarket, made their favorite meal? Like it was like, oh my gosh. And I kept doing that and kept thinking like that it's super weird, but it works like, why not?
[00:05:36] So I kept making up other things, you know, because I had been practicing long enough. I kind of knew like, oh, the hypothalamus is off. Oh, this is interesting. Can smell it. If it gets to the brain, like I just kept winging it. It's almost like, you know, you have three food items in your house and your kids are hungry.
[00:05:52] Like let's create a new sandwich that maybe they'll eat, you know, and they chew it and you're like, all right, that one's on. And so then when I kind of [00:06:00] started to feel better, my friends were all intrigued. They're like, we want to try it, you know, and I had this whole nutritional therapy community, so everyone was kind of playing with it.
[00:06:08] And then I finally went online because it was like, I I'm curious why this. And I was super surprised. First of all, that no one was really looking at oil combinations, kind of through the lens of balancing organ systems and regions of the brain. And also they made it so incredibly complicated. Like if I had had the bandwidth to start with research, I would have thought I was unqualified and I would never have started.
[00:06:33] And so that's kind of how it got kicked off. And then we went to the nutritional therapy conference. It was like, you know, I wonder if this, this works for me. I don't know if other people like it. And I think we brought like a hundred test kits because we thought maybe there would be 200 people there.
[00:06:49] We sold out the first day and I was like, oh, this is interesting people, people want this. So I just kind of throw it online. You know, I'd fill orders. I do yoga every [00:07:00] morning. So like fill orders and bring them in my little Lulu bag and put it in the post office on the way to yoga. And that's really how.
[00:07:08] Julie Michelson: That is amazing. And there's so many serendipitous factors starting from, you know, realizing that what your son was eating. I mean, it, it, it is unexciting. I say, how'd you start this oil company and we start back with, oh, my son had such EDD, but it was food sensitivities. But what I love about it was, was, and I want listeners to like really see it.
[00:07:36] It was you being. Right. You just stayed open. You found this one thing that kind of blew your mind. It was so simple, but yet you don't, you know, already done all this research. And you just, that that's where you, how you got to where you are is because you stayed curious and open and having for anybody who's not familiar with muscle testing, you know, [00:08:00] having that.
[00:08:00] Tool for those of us that are familiar, it is a tool. And that's exactly, you know, if you didn't have that tool, Your story probably would be really different and maybe it would have been a shorter exploration with oils. But you, I mean, it really was a way for you to literally just know, you know, to trust yourself.
[00:08:20] And, and that's what I wanted to circle back for listeners. There's a, this combo of being open and then trusting yourself and. And realizing. Cause sometimes even when something's working, if we don't understand how or why the, you know, we don't, we don't follow the path if it doesn't make sense. And so I love that and I know what a gift your oils are.
[00:08:43] I use them, I recommend them to my clients all the time. And the people that I love in my life. So I was laughing when you were talking about, and I'm thinking of the lucky people. I know we're all really excited when you show up at a conference because you always have amazing videos [00:09:00] and, and it's always like, oh, I can't wait to see what, what she's working on now. So you talked about your adrenals being tanked. Well, some of my listeners can likely relate in one way or another to their adrenals being tanked. I too remember. Getting the kids off to school and getting back in bed until it was time to pick them up, because that was the only way I would have the energy, you know, book-ending the day to, to mom to be the mom.
[00:09:28] I want to talk about, you know, how important you, you mentioned, you know, of course you weren't absorbing and digesting because you were in that sympathetic.
[00:09:39] Jodi Cohen: Yeah.
[00:09:39] Julie Michelson: Just response. Say, let's talk about, start with square one. Let's talk about what is the parasympathetic state and why do we need to achieve it?
[00:09:50] And then you have just the most amazing, I think, easy way to do it.
[00:09:56] Jodi Cohen: Thank you. Yeah. So for people that don't know, your [00:10:00] autonomic nervous system sounds complicated, but it really just controls your automatic functions, autonomic automatic breathing, heart rate, digestion, immune function. Anti-inflammation all the things you don't think about. And it's really designed to keep you alive. perceives everything, all of the senses, give it input and it has, you know, just like your car. You can speed up, you can slow down to kind of speed up and accelerate. There's danger. Either have to fight back or run away or play. That's called your sympathetic branch of your nervous system. And it's really not designed to be, you know, kind of going full throttle all the time.
[00:10:40] It's supposed to be like, wow, there's a danger. I survive it. And then I go back into what's called parasympathetic where it's like restoration, regeneration and healing, you know, think about you're having a party at your house. You clean everything you make, call this food. Everyone comes, it kind of gets the students [00:11:00] everywhere.
[00:11:00] You know, there are drink glasses everywhere. They all go home and you clean up the house and you repair it. It's not like you're constantly entertaining and running out of food. So that's kind of, your sympathetic is supposed to be kind of short and brief sprints of survival. And then your parasympathetic is supposed to kick in and you're able to recover sadly.
[00:11:23] It's not just a physical stress, like a tiger chasing you down the street. It can be an anticipatory stress in our emotional stress, you know, for those of us that have anxiety that's future worry. Oh my gosh, this could happen. That could happen. So our brain doesn't know the difference between anticipatory stress and physical, actual.
[00:11:41] So we can get stuck in what's called sympathetic overdrive and it creates this total maladaptive stress response where you're always anxious. You're always overwhelmed. You never turn off. It might interfere with your sleeping. In my presentence weight gain is inflammation as pain as all of these [00:12:00] things.
[00:12:00] So it is oh, and the gear shift between these two states is cranial nerve number 10 longest nerve in the body that most people have never heard. It's the vagus nerve, which means wandering in Latin because it connects the brain to the rest of the body, starts at the base of the head, splits ones around both sides of their neck.
[00:12:19] If you actually feel. Behind your ear lobe, there's kind of a divot between your ear lobe and the bone, the mastered them. That's an important point. That's where I actually have people stimulate the vagus nerve and turn on their sympathetic nervous system. Think of it as a gear shift. This is the gear shift, you know, and divots can always find an acupuncture place with divots.
[00:12:41] So there was a lot of research. This guy, Kevin Tracy, a neurology. Was playing with stimulating the vagus nerve. He actually it's a surgery. He inserted a pacemaker like device right there, and then another one in the chest. So two surgeries, you know, if the battery runs out, you have to repeat surgery, but by [00:13:00] using an electrical charge to stimulate the vagus nerve, he was able to help with depression, with migraines with inflammatory things, with epilepsy and the FDA approved this.
[00:13:13] There are lots of ways to activate your vagus nerve, you know, did she is Carozzi and is one of my favorites. He talks about gagging yourself with a tongue depressor, gargling, splashing your face with freezing water. You know, they're breathing techniques, meditation, all of these things work. It's just about compliance.
[00:13:29] Most people can say like, Hey, what if I send your face? They're like, no, not today. I will take a hard pass. But what I realized is that you can take a combination of essential oils. I use. Because it's highly stimulatory and lime, and it's really, you know, it's like anything that you mix together when you combine these two, you get super stimulatory and fast acting.
[00:13:53] So I just it's, it's literally an essential oil bottle. I flip it, flip it back and put it behind the [00:14:00] ear lobe. And it literally is that gear shift. Like, I, I have anxiety all the time. I get overwhelmed and I'm able to be like, okay, I'm just gonna check. I'm going to pause, I'm going to pull back and I'm like, my daughter makes fun of me.
[00:14:16] She's like, is that a current Shetty problem or a future journey problem? I realized in my mental loop or like future gee, there's nothing I can do about that today. It's either going to happen or it's not. And you know, today I can focus on this and it's amazing. It calms me down immediately.
[00:14:34] Julie Michelson: And it, it is, excuse me. It is fantastic. I have used it. And as I said, I, I recommended, I, I love you're talking about compliance because we do know there are so many things, you know Not, not as extreme as surgery and thank goodness, you know, that, that surgery really taught us a lot. Right. It gave us this idea of like, okay, how else can we do that?
[00:14:59] Jodi Cohen: yeah.
[00:14:59] Julie Michelson: But like [00:15:00] you said, with anything and being a coach, I know compliance is key. If I can't get somebody to do something consistently I, you know, it's, I have so many clients who know. Exercises or no ways that work for them to stimulate their vagus nerve and they just don't do them or they don't do them regularly.
[00:15:20] So I love how easy the oil is.
[00:15:24] Jodi Cohen: Well, and you know, it's really interesting. Like there's a lot of research around smell as a trigger, you know, like my Grammy used to wear lavender proceedings. So whenever I smell lavender, I think of her, you know, there, there a, you can almost use smell it. It's almost like a Pavlovian experience. Like the dog hears the bell rang and know there's food coming, you smell this.
[00:15:44] And you're like, oh yeah, I get you to. It trains you and, and it's, it's just a really easy way to get there. You know, people who meditate, sometimes they have a mantra. Sometimes they have a certain setting. It's just a cue to your body. Like, oh yes. I crossed the finish line. I [00:16:00] can calm down.
[00:16:01] Julie Michelson: Yeah. And cause as you said, I just had this conversation this morning. Actually I say it all the time. We don't, you're aware you, if you get in the forward thinking anxiety loop, you, you clearly are very aware of that. But even without that people say to me all the time, oh, I'm not stressed. And then I look at what's going on in their life and I'm like, yeah, You don't actually necessarily need to be aware that you're feeling stressed out.
[00:16:29] I say anybody living on this earth in this moment is experiencing chronic stress. And as you mentioned, our system, isn't set up for that. We're set up for acute. And so I was thinking of when you were talking about stressors, the other thing people often don't consider are positive stressors. The body doesn't know the difference.
[00:16:51] Something like buying a new house or moving or getting married or wonderful thing, having a baby, all of these things are [00:17:00] wonderful.
[00:17:01] Jodi Cohen: Yeah.
[00:17:01] Julie Michelson: And they're also stressors and, and tend to overlay, you know, when nobody has just one thing going on in this day and age.
[00:17:12] Jodi Cohen: That's completely valid and indicators that you're stressed. I mean, you can like check your heart rate and kind of see getting contested heart rate variability. Are you bouncing back quickly? You know, it's very obvious if you feel you're having panic attacks, feeling anxious, feeling overwhelmed, you know, pain is an indication of stress here.
[00:17:30] Mental energy being able to focus, you know, Feeling exhausted more than you usually are. All of these things. And here's the good news, you know, I, I really do think the body can heal. You know, I, I joke I live in Seattle and you know, if you want to drive to Portland, it's a couple hours south and I five, you know, maybe you went in the wrong direction and you realize, oh wait, I'm going north.
[00:17:51] You can always turn around. You can always. Returned to balance, you know, and you, that is within your control. Like, I [00:18:00] love that quote by a Holocaust survivor, Viktor Frankl's man's search for meaning, you know, between the stimulus and the response. There is a space and that's the space that I call the parasympathetic part.
[00:18:12] And what I really, the message. I really want people to hear. I mean, there's a lot that's happening right now that feels very outside of our control. And that can really feel overwhelming, especially if one of your you know, coping strategies is to try to control things and you have no idea, you know, you might have a trip planned and you know, is the airline, it's an airplane going to, you know, what is it?
[00:18:34] I think all the flights got canceled blend day, you know, that's outside of
[00:18:37] Julie Michelson: That's what I was with you that day.
[00:18:40] Jodi Cohen: Yeah.
[00:18:41] Julie Michelson: I didn't know if I was going to get home. Yeah. I mean, there's just so much going on right now that so much unknown.
[00:18:47] Jodi Cohen: Yes exactly. But our flight did get canceled at the 11th hour, you know, and I had returned the car and we didn't have a place to even get our bags and I'm like all outside and that control like nothing I [00:19:00] can do about that. So I'm just going to calm my nervous system so that I can think clearly, because this is really interesting.
[00:19:06] One of the things that the parasympathetic nervous system changes is your. Your pupils get bigger and black part of your eyes, and it's called selective attention because, you know, if you're contemplating your navel and Alliance chasing, you're probably going to die. You really just need to focus on your options at the moment, but that shuts down your access to kind of your higher cognitive problem solving.
[00:19:27] So, so many of us are kind of in this survival panic state and we can't access. Access our higher problem-solving skills. So step one is to calm your nervous system. You know, like once I was able to calm down, I'm like, all right, priorities, rebooking the flight number one. So we'll, we'll take care of that.
[00:19:47] Cause I need to know if I need to find a new hotel, how many days does the airline want us to stay somewhere? Did we get to pick and what's available? You know, like once you're kind of aware of what your options are, you can work within those parameters. So. [00:20:00] That's that's really kind of my biggest headline.
[00:20:04] Julie Michelson: is, is so huge. And I need to really drive home. When you said, you know, you believe the body can heal, the body can heal. It's designed to heal. And anybody listening to this has probably heard my story and knows, you know, I, I always say, you know, it's never too late. It doesn't matter whether it's physical, whether it's emotional, mental, whatever it is you're dealing with.
[00:20:31] Like you said, you can always turn the car around. And I, I, you know, I work with people that are just diagnosed. I work with people that have been struggling for decades and decades, and this first step has to be. Three introducing that parasympathetic state into your life. And that is why they call it rest and digest.
[00:20:53] It is the healing state. And so when people say, well, I'm not stressed, or I don't want to work on [00:21:00] mindset because it's a physical problem. It's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We need to be in that.
[00:21:06] Jodi Cohen: you can't clean the house. If you can't open the front door, you know, like
[00:21:10] Julie Michelson: Yup.
[00:21:11] Jodi Cohen: step for everything and then it makes everything else. You know, like just the minute I kind of realized, like, I I've limited options. I'm going to let that go. I'm just going to kind of see what's available in it. And it all worked out.
[00:21:27] Julie Michelson: Yeah. Oh, and it always does. I mean, that's the thing. If we don't get caught in the, in the tizzy, I believe at least my experience has been, it takes practice to. Put yourself in that state or take that parasympathetic pause, find it, be aware that you have that power.
[00:21:50] Jodi Cohen: Yes.
[00:21:51] Julie Michelson: you know, people always say to me, well, you know, I'll, I'll do it when I'm stressed and I'm like, oh, but if it's not in your toolbox, you can't reach for it if you don't [00:22:00] have the tool.
[00:22:00] And so. And I, I do find, I'm sure you see this all the time. People when you're in a situation like that, and you take your parasympathetic pause, people are amazed. They're like, how did you handle that, that way? It's like, well, you know, there is this space. So how do you go about, you know, setting the routine that allows that to be the tool in your toolbox?
[00:22:25] Jodi Cohen: Yeah, I really, I I'm very religious about a morning and evening routine. Like. I always start the day with gratitude because gratitude actually puts you in a space of parasympathetic and then goals. I kind of combine gratitude and goals and it could be something like I could wake up and be like, wow, that is such a pretty sunrise.
[00:22:44] Or my dog could be like, especially cuter when he was a puppy, like Aiden, he on the bed, you know, that kind of thing. It could be. It's silly, but, and then at the end of the day, I really tried to kind of wind down and again, what am I grateful for about today and what am I [00:23:00] looking forward to tomorrow?
[00:23:00] What's important to me. So I do, like, I tell people when they start you just leave it by your toothbrush. You know, everyone knows to brush their teeth first thing in the morning and. And just do it then. And the most people, what they realize is like, oh, this helps. Like, I feel good. And so sometimes they like, don't leave home without it.
[00:23:17] And it's always in their purse, so it's in their pocket. But to start, you know, just three times a day, like first thing in the morning before bed, if that's how he can handle, that's fabulous. If you want to start adding it, you know, before meals so that you are in a more receptive state to digest your food.
[00:23:33] Great. And then as needed, like, I think. I probably used it every five minutes. You know, when you
[00:23:40] Julie Michelson: I love that. That is so amazing. I was doing a round table over the weekend and somebody was asking me for tips about. You know, how do you get yourself in the state to digest your food? And I, I had a few tips, but I'm totally stealing [00:24:00] on an anti mat into the repertoire, because that is, as you mentioned, it was such a part of your journey.
[00:24:05] We can't observe or nutrients when we're in fight or flight. And so we need those nutrients to heal and we need them to function. And so I love that idea.
[00:24:16] Jodi Cohen: Well, as, you know, a mom, like that's something, oh my God. The struggle to get my kids to take supplements, you know, I've grind them up and apple sauce. But, you know what, like putting something behind their ear or on the bottom of their seat, that was easy. No, no pushback, no struggle.
[00:24:34] Julie Michelson: That's amazing. I I'm, I'm so excited because you just totally, you always do every time I talk to you, I get new ideas and new tools, but I love so the, the specific oil that we're referring to today,
[00:24:51] Jodi Cohen: Parasympathetic. You can actually, if you go to, I talked about this a lot in my book, essential oils to boost the brain and heal the body. If you go [00:25:00] to boost the brand. Dot com backslash gift. You can download a guide, a free guide of like all the different ways. If you're, if you're not in a Royal person that you can activate your parasympathetic nervous system, but there is then a coupon for the parasympathetic oil, which is clothing line smells great, smells like a half gallon box just right behind your ear lobe, but the divot between your ear lobe and that bone, which is your master down is the perfect application.
[00:25:26] And if you want to even try it now, just take your fingers and kind of gently massage there that that helps to activate your vagus nerve most accessible. They're closest to the surface and, you know, stimulate your calming response.
[00:25:39] Julie Michelson: I love that and see, you just gave me a new, I hadn't even thought about it. And next time I use it, I'm going to think about, I have dollar box.
[00:25:47] Jodi Cohen: Yeah.
[00:25:48] Julie Michelson: There's plenty of listeners who have no idea what that is, but if you do now, you know what the oil smells like. Yeah.
[00:25:56] Jodi Cohen: It just smells like and like yumminess.
[00:25:58] Julie Michelson: Happy. It smells [00:26:00] happy, but more important than how it smells, although it is essential, a smells good. So you want to put it on as what it, what it can do for you. And like I said, I've not only have I used it myself, but I recommend it often with my clients because it works. And as you said, it's so easy to do that.
[00:26:20] People are compliant and it, and it really does allow you. To heal or manager daily things that come up.
[00:26:31] Jodi Cohen: Yeah, it's an easy one. You know, like I spec it plans. Maybe not oil don't need to change on my clothes. Don't need to do anything else. Don't need you to adjust anything that.
[00:26:42] Julie Michelson: Yeah. I love it. I love it so much. And I will add. When we visit the parasympathetic state, when we take that parasympathetic pause, you know, I mentioned how in a stressful situation, people notice. But also I can tell you you're, you're a [00:27:00] better mother, a better partner, a better friend, a better.
[00:27:05] Jodi Cohen: Like. No, I'm serious. There's so many times when you know, all the alarms are going off and I'm like, I'm just going to be coming. It's going to out, you know, and the less that I react to the baster, like she processes through.
[00:27:21] Julie Michelson: Yeah. So I call this a cheat for me. This, this is the shortcut to the parasympathetic pause because it is so easy. It's no excuses. I always ask, so I know listeners are waiting at the end for the, what your tip is going to be. I'm pretty sure I know what it is, one step that listeners can take today to start to improve their health would be.
[00:27:45] Jodi Cohen: Her parasympathetic pause. I find whales to easiest, but again, I have 25 strategies. Most of them fray. If you go to boost the brain book.com backslash, if you can download a guide that goes into more detail about the [00:28:00] parasympathetic nervous. You're like me and you like to read things and maybe highlight and then gives you 25 strategies that you can start today, you know?
[00:28:08] Julie Michelson: it. And the easiest of which is the oil and telling you guys get the oil. It's amazing. So before we wrap up, I will have links in the show notes, but where's the best place for listeners to find you if they're intrigued and they want to learn more.
[00:28:21] Jodi Cohen: My website is vibrant blue oils.com. We have tons of blog posts. We go into a lot more detail. You can take some assessments and see, you know, what the best oil might be for you. And just kind of learn more about how you can topically apply essential oils on acupuncture points to balance organ systems and regions.
[00:28:42] Julie Michelson: I love it. Jodi, thank you so much for being with us today. You shared amazing gold and really I cannot encourage listeners enough to, A focus on, finding that parasympathetic pause, but really your oils, all of them, but the [00:29:00] parasympathetic is amazing and it really is a shortcut to healing.
[00:29:04] For everyone listening. Remember you can get the show notes and transcripts by visiting inspired living.show. I hope you had a great time and enjoyed this episode as much as I did. I will see you next week.
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Jodi Sternoff Cohen is a bestselling author, award-winning journalist, functional practitioner and founder of Vibrant Blue Oils, where she has combined her training in nutritional therapy and aromatherapy to create unique proprietary blends of organic and wild-crafted essential oils.
She has helped over 150,000 clients heal from brain related challenges, including anxiety, insomnia, and autoimmunity.
Her website, vibrantblueoils.com, is visited by over 500,000 natural health seekers every year, and she has rapidly become a top resource for essential oils education on the Internet today.
She has helped over 150,000 clients heal from brain related challenges, including anxiety, insomnia, and autoimmunity.
Her website, vibrantblueoils.com, is visited by over 500,000 natural health seekers every year, and she has rapidly become a top resource for essential oils education on the Internet today.
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