Episode 215
Paul Barattiero:The Hidden Reason Your Body Craves Sugar and Carbs All Day
Paul Barattiero:
The Hidden Reason Your Body Craves Sugar and Carbs All Day
In today's episode Dr. Paul Barattiero reveals the scientific breakthrough behind why your body constantly craves sugar and carbs, and how a simple dissolved gas can heal your gut, end food cravings, and restore your energy without restrictive diets or endless supplements.
First Aired on: Oct 27, 2025
Episode 215
Paul Barattiero:The Hidden Reason Your Body Craves Sugar and Carbs All Day
Paul Barattiero:
The Hidden Reason Your Body Craves Sugar and Carbs All Day
In today's episode Dr. Paul Barattiero reveals the scientific breakthrough behind why your body constantly craves sugar and carbs, and how a simple dissolved gas can heal your gut, end food cravings, and restore your energy without restrictive diets or endless supplements.
First Aired on: Oct 27, 2025
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Introduction
Paul Barattiero is the founder of Echo Water and a pioneer in molecular hydrogen therapy with over 20 years of experience. He's the original creator of hydrogen water technology and has dedicated his life to understanding how this simple gas can transform health. In this episode, he joins me to talk about why your body constantly craves sugar and carbs, and how hydrogen water can heal your gut and end those cravings for good.
Episode Highlights
How Paul's Wife's Health Crisis Led to the Discovery of Hydrogen Water
Paul shares the personal story that led him to develop hydrogen water technology.
- His wife gained 60 pounds within four months of taking birth control after their wedding
- She developed thyroid issues, anemia, gynecological problems, and brain fog over 10 years
- Paul was working in the diabetes industry but had to learn about women's health to help her
- Echo Water was born out of the necessity to heal his wife
- Within days of giving hydrogen water to someone with diabetes, their glucose levels normalized
Why Your Body Should Be Producing 10-12 Liters of Hydrogen Gas Daily
Paul explains the fundamental role hydrogen plays in human physiology and digestion.
- 63% of your body is made up of hydrogen, mostly bound to water and proteins
- Your gut is designed to ferment food and produce hydrogen gas as a natural byproduct
- A healthy gut should produce 10-12 liters of hydrogen gas per day
- Hydrogen is essential for making stomach acid (HCl) and other bodily functions
- Most people aren't producing adequate hydrogen due to gut dysfunction
The Real Reason You Crave Sugar and Carbs All Day
Paul reveals the bacterial imbalance behind constant food cravings.
- 96-99% of gut bacteria should be anaerobic (prefers fat and fiber)
- Only 1-4% should be aerobic bacteria (prefers carbs and sugar)
- When this ratio flips, the dominant bacteria drive your cravings
- Aerobic bacteria thrive on sugar and carbs, creating constant cravings
- This imbalance also causes anxiety and depression through gut-brain connection
The Electrical Secret Your Gut Needs to Heal
Paul explains how electrical potential determines which bacteria can survive in your gut.
- Gut tissue can have positive or negative electrical potential
- Anaerobic bacteria need negative 300 to negative 400 millivolts to thrive
- Aerobic bacteria prefer positive electrical charge
- Antibiotics change gut terrain to positive, killing beneficial bacteria
- Echo water has negative 400 to negative 600 millivolts, restoring proper terrain
What Hydrogen Water Actually Is and How It Works
Paul clarifies the science behind hydrogen water and why it's different from regular water.
- H2O is a liquid molecule, not gas - hydrogen and oxygen lose their properties when combined
- Hydrogen water is H2 gas dissolved into water, like a person sitting in a car
- Water acts as a vehicle to deliver hydrogen gas to your body
- pH changes don't matter because stomach acid buffers pH in seconds
- The negative electrical potential and dissolved hydrogen are what create healing
Why the Echo Flask Can't Be Made from Glass
Paul addresses common questions about the flask design and materials.
- The flask builds up to 64 PSI during the hydrogen generation process
- Glass would shatter under this pressure, making it unsafe
- Echo uses PPSU medical-grade plastic (same as baby bottles)
- No microplastics are produced when used properly with room temperature water
- The flask separates gases - only hydrogen goes into water, oxygen/chlorine exit separately
Practical Usage Guidelines and What to Expect
Paul provides specific recommendations for incorporating hydrogen water into your routine.
- Start with 3-6 flasks per day, spread throughout the day
- People with hydrogen-based SIBO should start with smaller amounts
- Avoid drinking right before bed to prevent nighttime bathroom trips
- You have 2 hours to drink the water once poured from the flask
- Gluten and dairy intolerance often resolves within 2 weeks
Notable Quotes from this Episode
We should be producing 10 to 12 liters of hydrogen gas per day if we had a properly functioning gut with the proper bacteria.
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96 to 99% of the bacteria in the gut should be anaerobic microflora, and only one to 4% should be aerobic. That should tell you what you should be eating - fat and fiber, not carbs and sugar.
Paul Barattiero
Hydrogen water simply means you have a water molecule and you have dissolved H2 gas into that water. It's like a person who sits in a car - they don't become part of the car.
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The greatest thing, in my opinion, that helps someone become a healthy human is forgiveness. Don't hold claim on other people's lives for what they do to you.
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Episode Transcript
Paul Barattiero: You can take all the prebiotics, probiotics you want if you're not properly hydrated, and the electrical potential in your gut is not correct. The bacteria that should be in your gut will never be able to create communities.
Julie Howton: Welcome back to The Inspired Living with Autoimmunity podcast. I'm your host, Julie Houghton, and today we're joined by Dr. Paul Barattiero, who is a pioneering advocate for molecular hydrogen therapy. With over two decades of experience in the health and wellness industry, his life's mission is to spread awareness of how hydrogen water can enhance the quality of life and support health.
In today's conversation, we are discussing how incorporating hydrogen water into your wellness routine can help you heal by supporting gut health, neutralizing harmful free radicals, and mitigating oxidative stress and inflammation.
Paul, welcome to the podcast.
Paul Barattiero: Thank you much. It's a pleasure to be with you.
Julie Howton: I'm so excited for this. I'm, I'm such a, a fan of hydrogen water in general and, and what Echo is doing. But first and foremost, I want for listeners to get to know a little bit about your journey, because I, I, I know you know you this. Diving into hydrogen wasn't necessarily your life's plan.
Paul Barattiero: Definitely not. I, I talk a lot about this. People, most everyone asks, how did you know about this? Because you were the first to ever do this. It was 20 years ago. How the heck did you know?
And so I tell people. It was an accident. It, it was almost an accident, and I, I'm not some brilliant, amazing individual who planned this out strategically and was like, oh my gosh, I want to create a hydrogen water company. It, it really happened. Out of necessity. My wife, my queen, the love of my life was sick.
Uh, I've been married 31 years, my wife and I, and the first 10 years of our marriage, she was progressively getting worse and I would put it back to birth control. When we got married, I told her, I will wear a condom. Please don't use birth control. And unfortunately, she didn't listen and she took birth control and within four months of getting married, she gained 60 pounds.
So that started off a process for the first 10 years of our marriage. She had thyroid issues, she had gynecological issues, she had anemia.
She had everything you could think of that was going wrong. And I literally was like, oh crap. Um, I don't know that she is going to make it. And so here we are, 31 years later and she is amazing. Looks amazing, feels, you know, so it is what it is. But that's really, echo water is a result of healing. My wife from anemia, from adenomyosis, from hypothyroid, from gynecological issues and on and on it goes short term brain issues 'cause of, you know, mercury in our system that.
Caused yeast to go in the brain, which is pretty typical. So anyways, you know, I was in the diabetes world at the time. I was definitely not in the gynecological world, and so I had to learn all these things. I had to figure it out because someone who I loved very much needed my help.
Julie Howton: Yeah, amazing. At what point did you realize, holy cow, we like, we have to share this with the world.
Paul Barattiero: Yeah. Well as soon as she was feeling better, quite honestly, I'm like, yeah, uh, I bet you there's a lot of husbands who have no idea and a lot of people who have issues and they don't know what to do with it. And for sure when I figured out it was hydrogen mm-hmm. And it changed her life so dramatically, I was like.
Uh, there is no, uh, one else on the earth that is telling this story, that is talking about it. And just for fun, after my wife was helped, I gave the, the water that we had developed. To someone who had diabetes, and within three to five days, their glucose levels were normal. And I'm like, whoa, hold on a minute.
And at that time, I owned a shoe company that Medicare was paying for shoes every year for people with diabetes because. It was the proper size. And so they, and, and there were insoles that would spread pressure so they wouldn't get decubitus, ulcer, ulcer and therefore amputation. And I thought, well, that's really good.
We're we've reduced amputations in the United States by 65% and 15 years, however. If we can change the disease model, that's even better. Right. That got me very passionate about this. And so the rest is history now, but literally. I didn't understand at the time how important gut health was and that all disease stems from Yeah, gut dysfunction.
I didn't understand that. And, you know, it, it just took me on a path that has become my life's work and I, I love it and I'm passionate about it, and I get to talk about my wife all the time.
Julie Howton: I, and I hear you talk about your wife all the time and, and so, um, it's, it's, it's fun as, as, yeah. Somebody who's a, a fairly newlywed. So, you know, we are on round two. We've been together a long time and, and yeah. Um, it, it's nice to hear someone who's been married 31 years say such beautiful things about his wife and value that relationship so much.
Oh, here we are. Yeah. Here we Aw his bride. I love it.
Paul Barattiero: Yeah.
Julie Howton: Beautiful family. So let's, thank you. I, I want you to kind of. Give us a little bit of a hydrogen 1 0 1, if you will, of like, why hydrogen? Sure. What is going on? And we're gonna, you know, we won't dive deeply into the gut part, but of course we have to talk about it because Yeah.
It is where autoimmunity begin. Um, yeah. And, and so, you know, what is going on with why do we need hydrogen, you know. Just share with us a little bit.
Paul Barattiero: So to understand that we need to understand a couple core principles. First of all, our body is carbon hydrogen chains. If we really understand the makeup of our body, 63% of our body is hydrogen.
Now mostly that hydrogen is bound to water molecules, proteins, carbohydrates, and so it's not available to function as hydrogen gas, but hydrogen is so critical, like something as simple as stomach acid. Right. HCL, you can't make it without the H. Without the H. Without H, right, hydrogen. So yeah, from a very fundamental perspective, we require hydrogen in the body to function the way we are designed to function.
So, uh. Hydrogen, in fact, is so critical that we have a hydrogen generator built into our body, and that is when we ferment food, which that's how we digest. We ferment foods in our colon. They're just like a car has a tailpipe. We have a tailpipe, just like there's gases that come out of your car, carbon monoxide when you process fuel for energy.
When we ferment foods, we end up with gases coming out of our tailpipe, and one of those gases is hydrogen and, and methane and, and things like this. But we'll talk about hydrogen. We should be producing 10 to 12 liters of hydrogen gas per day. If we had, if we had a properly functioning gut with the proper bacteria.
So let's unpack that a little bit. There are two main types of bacteria, aerobic and anaerobic. And I'm gonna oversimplify this for today's conversation. Thank you. But we have aerobic and we have anaerobic. 96 to 99% of the bacteria in the gut should be anaerobic, microflora, and only one to 4% should be aerobic.
Now, let's talk about what they do because these are bacteria, and bacteria have a role in our body, and we need to understand that role because we hear gut dysfunction. We ha we hear. Leaky gut. We hear all these crazy terms that really mean nothing because what is leaky gut? You have something going down your leg.
I, I don't think so. Like we do understand this is an open system. When you go to the bathroom, you're not unlocking some door. It is an open system and stuff comes out of you. So what is leaky gut? I, I don't even understand the term. What we need to understand is that a gut dysfunction means you have the wrong terrain and therefore the wrong bacteria.
And what we have to understand is that bacteria. Can what digest certain types of foods or not. So aerobic bacteria likes carbs and sugar, anaerobic likes fatty acids and fiber. If you really think about that, 96 to 99% of gut bacteria. Should be bacteria that want fat and fiber. That should tell you what you should be eating, right?
Only, only one to 4% of the bacteria should be carbs and sugar, because that should be a highlight, a fun thing, not a staple diet. And so what really happens is these bacteria need a terrain to live in. So what creates that terrain? It's electrical potential bacteria thrive on electrical potential, so the tissue of the gut can have a positive or a negative electrical potential.
We want a negative electrical potential for the anaerobic microflora. In fact, studies show that. Anaerobic microflora, strict anaerobes need a negative 300 to a negative 400 millivolts to have the perfect environment for them. And here's the problem. Air robes want a positive electrical charge. Sure. So the truth be known if we take an antibiotic.
Overuse. So if we overuse antibiotics, and what do I mean by that? Antibiotics get a bad rap, but antibacterial or antibiotics are life sustaining in a bacterial infection. If you have a life sustaining bacterial infection, you, you should take an antibiotic to sure help you live. However, if you have a virus or you have something else, it's gonna do nothing but destroy your gut and it's a waste of your time.
So. If you have a bacterial infection that's harming you, definitely take antibiotics and let's heal your gut after the fact, right? If you do not have a life threatening bacterial infection, do not take an antibiotic. Doesn't matter what the doctor tells you to do, do something else to fix your virus. Go to sleep, get some chicken noodle.
So. Viruses are gonna take their course. And if you bolster your system, your immune function is what you need for that. But it does give you a workout for your immune function, which is healthy to do on an annual basis. So that's one thing to understand because when we take an antibiotic, you're gonna change the terrain to a positive electrical potential.
And all of your anaerobic microflora, which should be the majority, will no longer have a home, therefore. Your cravings will become carbs and sugar, and you will have anxiety and depression because of the bacteria that's in your gut, right? Not because you have a problem with depression or you have a problem with anxiety or you like sugar and carbs.
It's because the bacteria in your gut gut, that's what they can consume. Have you ever met someone who eats a salad and has diarrhea? They're like, I'm so frustrated. I'm eating what people are saying is healthy, and I just have diarrhea. Guess what? You don't have bacteria to process fiber. Yeah, so you will have diarrhea.
You have bacteria that wants to process carbs and sugar, not a salad. So we have to change the terrain. And the beautiful thing is the very gas that your gut should be producing is what can heal your gut. We can literally have someone drink the water and in two weeks, gluten and dairy intolerance is gone and therefore.
You have healed or restored your terrain. How are we doing that? Well, I gave you a secret a minute ago, which is. The bacteria that should be in your gut wants a negative electrical potential, and if you have a positive, they're never going to grow. Thrive, create communities. You can take all the prebiotics, probiotics you want if you're not properly hydrated, and the electrical potential in your gut is not correct.
They will never be able to create communities. You have to give them the environment that they can live in. You could tell me, I'm gonna love living in the desert. I'm gonna say, no thanks. I would like to live in a different environment in a home. I don't wanna live out in the sand. Sit. So the bacteria are the same.
They're like, no, I don't want that environment and I'm not gonna live well. I can never create a community with a bunch of friends doing what we're supposed to be doing. So how do we create that with the water? Water coming out of our devices? All of them have a negative 400 to a negative 600 millivolts of electrical potential when you drink that water within the first hour, and then definitely within two weeks.
You are bathing your intestinal tract with the proper electrical potential, and you're now changing the terrain and the biome to be suitable for anaerobic microflora so we can heal the gut. Now, when you heal the gut, everything else is working properly because I, I say all the time,
Julie Howton: listeners know, like if you're listening to this podcast, yeah.
You have gut issues, like Yeah. Yeah. By the time you have that chronic inflammation. Yeah. Whether it's autoimmunity, you mentioned cancer, you know, any, any of it. Diabetes especially, you know, type two, all of it. I just, and I, I, I kind of was like, yeah. I remember back when we really started to realize how, just how integral gut health was to all of this.
And I, I, the first like year or so that I was LI just, I was like, oh, come on. I was like rolling my eyes like, oh, it's the gut. It's, I'm like, oh, it is the gut. Um,
Paul Barattiero: yeah. I
Julie Howton: wanna, I wanna clarify too, so
Paul Barattiero: yeah,
Julie Howton: tell us a little bit about. The water because I, I've had so many people say, you know, so, so, you know, are you changing, you know, is it still water?
Is it, um, I know the answer 'cause I've heard, I've heard you talk enough, but, um, yeah,
Paul Barattiero: it's a great question. People are confused and probably the number one question we get is, uh, hydrogen water isn't hydrogen already in water? And I, I understand the question because it may, of course you're gonna ask that question.
Let's unpack that a little bit. H2O is water, but it is no longer gas. Water is a liquid. Hydrogen and oxygen are gases, but when you combine those two gases, they form a liquid. They are no longer gases. So you can no longer say, well, oxygen's gonna do what oxygen does, and hydrogen's gonna do what? Hydrogen, because you've created a new thing called water and.
That's what we need to understand, so. Hydrogen water simply means three things. A, you have a water molecule. Mm-hmm. B, you have dissolved H two gas into that water. It doesn't combine. It doesn't create a new molecule. It's like a person who sits in a car. They don't become part of the car. They're still there.
Get, oh, I like that
Julie Howton: analogy. Yeah. When you get to your
Paul Barattiero: destination. They all get out. Okay. You're in a vehicle 'cause it takes you somewhere. We are using water as a vehicle to deliver H two gas to the body. That's what hydrogen water is. It doesn't change pH 'cause we don't want to change pH.
Julie Howton: Yeah.
Paul Barattiero: There's no benefit to the human body for drinking a solution that has high or low pH.
It's all nonsense science. Stomach acid will buffer the pH in seconds, so don't worry about the pH of liquids. What we want is hydrogen gas and a negative electrical potential. That's what's gonna help your gut. And if we help your gut, we're helping your immune function, and that's one of the greatest things we do.
70% of your immune function is tied to the bacteria in your gut, so having the right bacteria. Boost your immune function and all your antioxidant pathways, and that's where the oxidation is managed properly. That's where the inflammation is managed properly. That's where your mitochondrial function is managed because if you eat too much carbs and sugar, you're gonna have reactive oxygen species that will become hydroxyl radicals, which is the most cell damaging radical in the human body.
We don't want those things. We don't want people sugar and carb loading. We want the body to produce a TP in the mitochondria, so you don't need to be spiking your life with sugar constantly and hitting a turbo button all the time. You should have normal, wonderful energy to do whatever you want all the time without having to eat sugar.
Yeah,
Julie Howton: absolutely true. I, I tell people all the time as they're shifting diet, that that, you know, because almost everybody that I meet, unless they've already been doing a lot of work and they're totally car addicted, you know, again, 'cause they have this imbalance, uh, and I use that as the like kind of a driver for change of like, yes, you're gonna have cravings in the beginning.
Yeah, but it's not you, so, right. So decide not to feed them so that you can create the change
Paul Barattiero: and you might just feel like crap for a little bit. Yeah. And that's okay.
Julie Howton: Do, do, should people expect, I, because there's so much I wanna talk about, like I would deep dive on the inflammation, what we know we have to heal the gut.
And then we get this, this ripple effect, right? Yeah. We can just break that inflammatory cycle. Like you said, you know, it's this selective antioxidant. It's,
Paul Barattiero: yeah.
Julie Howton: Um, so, so somebody who is listening to this, who perhaps has an even gone down the diet change pathway, or maybe they have, they've made, you know, various healthy lifestyle changes.
When they start to incorporate hydrogen water into their, their healing regimen, do they expect disrupt? Like, to me, and actually I just had a, a, a good friend, um, ask me, she's like, because she recently got an Echo flask and she was like, you know, I, I, I have some like gi upset. Do you think it's, and I'm like, well, you're changing your balance in your microbiome.
Um, so is there like an expected disruption or not really?
Paul Barattiero: It is pretty rare. Okay. The only thing, the only thing is she could have some SIBO that is hydrogen based sibo. Gotcha. If it's methane based sibo, no issue. If it's hydrogen based, she could have some inflammation because what SIBO really is, is the right bacteria too far north in the wrong place.
Julie Howton: Yep.
Paul Barattiero: That's right. So if. And those bacteria like hydrogen, it becomes their energy source. Just like h pylori, right? They like hydrogen. It's an energy source for them. So if you have SIBO that is hydrogen based, sibo, which is not everyone, right? Even if you have sibo, you have methane or hydrogen. If you have hydrogen based SIBO or hydrogen seeking sibo, then you need to start out with smaller amounts of the water.
Gotcha. As your gut restores, it'll change the bacteria. And I, I what I tell people, 'cause people say, well, how did I get SIBO in the first place? I'm healthy. I'm this, I'm that. And I'll say, do you water fast or do you do dry fasting? And they're like, yeah. And I said, have you ever broken your fast with fermented foods?
And they're like. Yeah, I did. I said That's where you got sibo. That's it. Well, I should say that's where you would easily get sibo because if you break your fast with fermented foods, it's gonna react in the small intestine way too fast and, and it's a problem. And they're like, oh my gosh. I said, yeah, you really wanna break a fast with broths or something simpler.
Um, and be careful because you've gone without food and now you're gonna put something rich or something in your system. Just be careful of that. But if you do have sibo, there are protocols with, um, essential oils. There's other protocols. I mean, there are protocols with antibiotics that you can take to sure do that.
Um, and, and, and the good news is. If you use antibiotic, then you start drinking the water right after that and build your gut back up in two weeks. Right. And you're golden. Yeah. So
Julie Howton: if
Paul Barattiero: you're, you can use these tools, be intentional. Sure. Yes, exactly.
Julie Howton: Absolutely. Uh, yeah, AMA, so I'm married to a physician.
Yeah. And we have a clinic and so I. Mo not most of, I'm, I'm very, I, we do a lot of lab testing, right. A lot of thorough lab testing with people. It's one of the places, especially for my autoimmune clients that have been struggling for years, I like to just, I call it, looking under all the rocks so we know what we're, what we're dealing with.
Yeah. Um, I know anecdotally, like we had a patient who. Uh, all of a sudden, you know, her, all her, her cardiac panel looked so much better and she said the only thing she had changed mm-hmm. Was she added hydrogen water in. Right. Her oxidative stress was down. Yeah. Um, so yeah, so we've seen for sure we've seen that for, for the lab geek.
'cause I care mostly about how you feel. Right. Because yeah, to me the labs tend to lag a little behind it's indicator. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Um, and I know there's so many anecdotal, you know, so many, I'm sure you get all kinds of feedback all the time from, you know, my, this got better, my doc got better. Um, any, anything trackable or testable that, that people, and again, I say that with a little bit of.
Like I always take it with a grain of salt. When my rheumatoid arthritis was, it's was destructive and active. My C-reactive protein was always normal. Right. Yeah. So I was one of those people that my labs didn't, I I was the didn't imagine know. Labs are fine. Labs are fine. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but do, are there testable?
I know there's so many, how many studies have been done to date? 1500. 1500. Yeah. This is not new science. It's just secret science.
Paul Barattiero: And, and, and the big, the big fun thing to know is the earliest studies we found are 1888.
Julie Howton: It's crazy.
Paul Barattiero: That's wild. So 150 years of research, 40 plus proven benefits, 200 disease models.
And the reason why we have so many disease models is because disease is a result of the combination of oxidative stress and chronic inflammation. So hydrogen. Reduces oxidative stress and chronic inflammation. So we would assume and expect that all pathology would be affected. And even though we don't say this is a cure for such and such, we are just saying hydrogen reduces or modulates oxidative stress to where oxidation is present.
We need oxidation to live. Yes, but we do not need oxidative stress. We don't need inflammation chronically, right? We need inflammation when needed for injury or a reaction in the body, but chronic inflammation is a problem, and that's definitely where RA comes from. Sure. And we have great studies on ra, but we have 123 studies on cancer.
We have 77 studies on diabetes. We have 22 on Parkinson's. We've got studies on Alzheimer's, colitis. We, every gut issue you could imagine. You know, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, bipolar, schizophrenia, on and on it goes, and people just need to understand that, that if they had hydrogen, they wouldn't have this disease in the first place.
And you can restore gut function. And trust me, you will feel that and you will feel good. And it is nice. And, and I don't care what people eat. The good news is eat whatever the flip you want to eat, but hopefully it's a varied diet and Right. I eat ice cream, I eat dairy, I eat gluten, I eat whatever the heck I want.
And I feel amazing all the time. But that's because that's what you're supposed to be able to do. And, and should I be eating ice cream at every meal? Heavens no. Should I be eating? No, it is common sense. What we should be eating. Mm-hmm. And that's fiber and fats. We should be eating a diet that is naturally occurring foods, what we call whole foods and vegetables and things.
Right. And then listen. But we should also
Julie Howton: be resilient. Like I remember, and I, I think it's a typical part of the healing journey. When I started to heal and I found out, you know, I was fat deprived and, and, um,
Paul Barattiero: yeah. So
Julie Howton: when I, when I found what I needed to be eating, you know, including and avoiding to feel well.
Yeah, I stayed in that little box probably way too long, held onto it way too tightly Aimed for perfection. Yeah. Right. Um, and I remember, you know, my now husband used to say all the time, but you should be resilient. You should be real. Health is resilient.
Paul Barattiero: That's right. Yeah. You, you should literally have celiac.
Julie Howton: So I'm not gonna ever try. Yeah, to eat gluten, like for me it was somebody with Celiac, even in
Paul Barattiero: Italy,
Julie Howton: you know, I'm just not, and I know people with Celiac that go to Italy and, and can do it. I'm not brave enough to potentially ruin my trip. Got it. And they have really, really good gluten-free food in Italy, so, and they take, they actually take it really seriously.
Paul Barattiero: Well, you don't even need gluten-free fruit over there. But what we need to understand is that the pesticides and the chemicals that we put in our food is where the problem is. It is not gluten. We've been eating gluten for thousands of years on this planet with no issues. Sure. It, it is the chemicals and, and clearly there are individuals like my Queen that are more susceptible to those chemicals damaging her and.
I will say that she, she dabbles can because of the water, eat gluten and not have a problem. Okay. Good for her. But she feels a bit better when she doesn't and, and so we can go over to Europe, which we do, and she can eat anything she wants and it's great. Yeah. So I, I would just say that someday we'll have food that's actually food and we'll have appropriate
Julie Howton: if we get what, as we move back toward real food.
Yeah. And, and I say that all the time here, like the, the wheat in this country, not only Yeah. Is it higher gluten, you know, it's all been modified. That's right. I mean, the last thing they do when they harvest it is spray it with more glyphosate to dry that out. Right. That's right. So it it's a, it's a, a no-brainer.
Paul Barattiero: Yeah. Yeah. So you, you, I probably 90% of my diet is organic non GMO in my life, just because, and then when I go travel, I eat whatever the flip I want. Right. And there's no way to know, because you can't control it when you're out. I have gotten to that point. Well there, I mean, there are some people I know that are friends of mine that won't eat if there's not some, and I just haven't gotten there yet because I don't have the effects that they have when they eat that way.
Well, you feel well. You feel well.
Julie Howton: Exactly. Do you feel Well, I mean, I 'cause my
Paul Barattiero: body. I can handle it. My, my gut is working wonderful, and luckily I'm a 53-year-old person who has no health challenges, and so I, but I've been drinking hydrogen water for, you know, 20 years. But the, the reality for me is, you know, I do not eat a lot of sugar, but I do enjoy eating it when I have a moment to do that.
And so, right. It is what it is. I do think diversity is good. I think it's good to eat Mediterranean food. I think it's good to eat every kind of food you could imagine, right? Because believe it or not, your gut needs that workout you. You actually don't want to be on a mono diet. However, there are some people that have to, and so I'm not talking bad about you or saying Don't do what you need to do.
Listen to your body, live your life. Yes, but get the water. And drink echo water. Don't buy some cheap thing. That's a scam. Hydrogen product, which is 99% of the products on the market, get a real evidence-based, certified third party certified hydrogen product, which is Echo. Yes, we're the largest company in the world.
We're the original company. Then enjoy your life some more. So you don't have toileting problems. You don't have to be worried about going out in public and having a bathroom issue. I'm telling you, my wife was there. I know what it's like when she has an accident years ago. It's horrible. Yeah. Unless you bring another set of clothes with you, it is even
Julie Howton: still nobody, you know?
No. No adult wants that.
Paul Barattiero: Nobody wants that, that, so.
Julie Howton: Yeah. Trust
Paul Barattiero: me. And I don't wanna share that without my wife's permission. She's given me permission. I hope so. But the, the, the, yeah. The point. Yeah. Yeah. I just threw under the bus. Right. But no, the, the reality, the reality is, no, we're all human.
Julie Howton: Right? So I love that.
Yes. Listen,
Paul Barattiero: we, we have issues. I have, yeah. You know, I, trust me, I, life is life and everything happens, the good, bad, and the ugly. But I'm simply saying, my desire in life is for you. Whoever's listening to me right now and listening to us, I want you. To accomplish and live your divine potential. I believe you have a divine potential, and I want you to live that.
I want you to be able to get up in the morning and have energy and go do what you need to do, and live the best life you can live, because it's what I want for everyone. Yeah. I I don't want you to feel fatigued all the time. I don't want you to feel like crap all the time, right? I want you to feel good and so will this solve every problem.
We not, but for many of you it will. The people, like my wife, it solved 85%. That's amazing. And then we had to go help her with the methylation issues. We had to go help her with some other things.
Julie Howton: Right. I'm glad you said, had said that
Paul Barattiero: help, you know, it helped her. Yeah. Yeah. So it wasn't like it was a, it's a magic cure.
But I will tell you, my wife is so sensitive. Her gut, you know. And, and she's not a good patient. My wife's not, she was sitting right here. I would say the same thing. She's not compliant, which is why she's got the issues that she does. She stays up too late at night, right. She thinks going to bed at one or 1:00 AM is healthy and she doesn't wanna miss, she's got fomo.
So the, the reality is, if I can ever get her to get 10 hours of sleep, we could really, you know, she'd be even better, but, right.
Julie Howton: So, so this is, this is a, a, a real needle mover. For sure as you are in incorporating a healthy lifestyle all around. Again, we're not talking about perfection. We're talking about, you know, yeah, we need to sleep, we need to move.
Those that are like me. Sounds like a lot like your wife. I, I call myself a collector. Um, you know, I, between, you know, lead and Mercury and mycotoxins. Oh, she had 'em all. I mean, you name it. Yep. You know, um, she grew
Paul Barattiero: up in la just drinking the water gets you those four things.
Julie Howton: Yeah. You know, amazing that I feel, I, I always say I talk about divine purpose, right?
I know I'm meant to be doing this because I shouldn't. Have been able to even start to heal
Paul Barattiero: Yep.
Julie Howton: Without addressing my actual underlying causes. Um, so I, I think that's the important thing for people to understand is. We, we need, and you, you mentioned that those key words, right? Like we need something to move that needle, to give us the energy to help reduce the inflammation.
Increase the tolerance. I feel like now, ever since 2020, there's more, even more reactive gut, you know?
Paul Barattiero: Yeah.
Julie Howton: Allergies, sensitivities, histamine problems.
Paul Barattiero: Yep.
Julie Howton: Um, and, and so yeah. Everybody should be drinking clean water anyway.
Paul Barattiero: Oh, that, that is a given. That's a given. And
Julie Howton: so I, I get two questions a lot that I wanna ask you in particular about the flask.
'cause I'm a huge fan of the flask. Thank you. Um, I am blessed. I, I now realize that I, I love water. You know, some people it's like a, it's hard to get them to drink water. Um, sure. So I love this because I, I do, I travel with it. I, you know, I definitely, um, you know, we were excited to start carrying the flask in the clinic, but the two questions I get are one, you know, and, and I, I already know the answer.
I'm just asking because I get it enough. Um, pe some people like really. You know, they like that kind of protocol. Like, well, how many am I supposed to be drinking? And Sure. True. Three to six. And I heard you say maybe start slow if you're somebody who
Paul Barattiero: Yep.
Julie Howton: Um, but. You know, is three a day enough? Does it matter if they're spread out?
Give us a little direction. Yeah.
Paul Barattiero: So I would say three a day is great, six is even better. And definitely let's mimic the human body. We would eat three times a day. We would have farting three times a day. We would create flatulence three times a day. So let's drink this spread out during the day. Let's say you do three to six a day, spread out, uh, try not.
For many of you, try not to drink it late at night. It will help your sleep, but if you drink it right before bed, you might have to get up and pee during the night. So try to drink, you know, an hour or two before you're going to bed to finish your drinking, but drink throughout the day and have better energy.
Have. You know, mitochondria function, gut function, brain function, all these kind of things that you want to have, that's what this is gonna do. And so, you know, you don't have to be perfect. You don't only have to drink echo water, you can drink other types of water. Make sure that there're filtered. I always say don't.
Be a filter. Buy a filter. I like that. So don't create your body or don't make your body filter out all the crap. Get it filtered before it goes in. It's a lot easier to filter water and have the contaminants out than it is to bring it in your body. Please don't ever drink tap water asking them, is this tap water or are you getting this at least from the Coke machine?
Big secret. There's a filter, there's a carbon filter right in the Coke machine, and if you can get them to give you water from that, at least it has some filtering.
Julie Howton: Yeah. So
Paul Barattiero: at least do that and you can,
Julie Howton: you can. Pour this out and drink it out of a glass. Correct. Correct. Like I just always have my flask with me.
Paul Barattiero: Um, yeah, well I I do And you got two hours to drink it. Once you poured into a glass, you got two hours. And, and so that's wonderful. You know, here's the deal. This was created for two people, skeptical people and people that travel. So once you are no longer skeptical, 'cause you're like, oh my gosh, this has changed my life.
We have a pitcher that makes a half a gallon in 10 minutes. We have an unders sink system that's reverse osmosis and a hydrogen unit that'll make a quarter gallon a minute so that you don't have to wait 10 minutes for 12 ounces. But this is amazing for travel. It's amazing for skeptical people who are like, ah, I don't know if it's, it sounds really good, but I don't know if it's gonna change my life as much as you say.
Listen, 15 cents a day, that's what this costs you. And if you divide that out by six, you, you do understand it's like two or 3 cents per drink that is a million times better than a tablet that costs you a dollar per use. This makes no sense, right? This makes sense. If you were to do for the five years, you're gonna have this.
That's $1,500 in tablets for just one time a day. If we, if we use six tablets a day, imagine you're gonna have $7,000 in three. You know, I'm just five years, I'm just telling you, this is what you want to get and you don't want to go on Alibaba or for buying buy crappy bottles. 'cause they make chlorine, not hydrogen.
Trust me. Invest in your stuff. Well, and I gave, gave one to my,
Julie Howton: my best friend and, and she's one of those, she doesn't drink out of it. She, she, oh, that's good. Pours it into a glass and then she makes a glass for her husband. And so they're actually, you know, 'cause get her would never buy one. But here's the other thing I hear all the time, and I, I understand why, but, but I would wanna address.
Because this, it, it's such a beautiful too, like the design is so slick and great. Yeah. Thank you. Um, it is not glass,
Paul Barattiero: right?
Julie Howton: I understand why it can't be glass, but can you touch on that for, for listeners and are you guys working on a workaround?
Paul Barattiero: Nope. We're not because we can't. So here, here's, here's the deal.
Uh, this part. Definitely is plastic. And the reason being is because in a 10 minute cycle, when you turn this on, yep. For example, when I turn this on, you can see
gonna start 10 minutes, right? And, and you can see all the little amazing bubbles going in now. In our product, you, this is only hydrogen in the other crappy bottles. The scan bottles on the market, it's oxygen, hydrogen, chlorine. You don't know what you're getting. Our chlorine is coming out. See that little blue light right there?
That's where oxygen, ozone, chlorine is all coming out. This is just hydrogen going in. So number one, I want you to understand that. Number two, when we are. Doing this, we will build up 64 PSI. That's why you push the top and release the pressure before taking the lid off. Otherwise the lid could, uh mm-hmm go flying.
And once, once you do that, that's 64 PSI is gonna cause. Whatever this is made out of to flex. Mm-hmm. We have tested this up to 200 PSI. You cannot use glass. It would shatter. I mean, imagine, yeah. Being a customer and having this shatter. We have other competitors that make glass bottles and people put pictures on our website of their bottles shattered.
Oh. Can you imagine how horrible that would be? So number one. We can't make it in glass. We've tried number two. The plastic that we use is PPSU. What is that Plastic? That's the plastic baby bottles are made of. That's an FDA approved medical grade plastic. It does not produce microplastics in our application.
If you take breast milk. And put it in a baby bottle. Guess what? Breast milk is incredible. But it has these wonderful little things called enzymes in it. And those enzymes eat at the plastic. Well, good news is you're not putting breast milk in here. Please don't do that. Don't, you're putting water. And guess what else?
You're not putting hot water in here. Right? So because we're the, the use of this bottle is room temperature or chilled water, right? And it's not breast milk. I know that's surprising to you all, but we're not hydrogenating breast milk in here. We're just using water with the proper use of this bottle.
There are no microplastics getting in to this,
Julie Howton: and I will say this, I, I am like, I'm hardcore. So I've been plastic free for at least a decade. 'cause again, and you do a test on me, I still have BPA. Yeah. Like it's crazy.
Paul Barattiero: Yeah. Oh yeah. You'll get it from Cane all kind stuff. But
Julie Howton: this is, I use this every day.
Yeah, yeah,
Paul Barattiero: yeah.
Julie Howton: Um, and, and people were shocked 'cause especially my clients, at first they were like, but. But then I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.
Paul Barattiero: Yeah, well, no. So trust me, I am not an advocate of U of using or overusing plastic, right? I'm 100% don't U overuse plastic. We will never not be able to use plastic in our life.
Trust me. We will have to, I know to use plastic, it's just reality of the life we live. It's you
Julie Howton: limit and you're in control. But this is. Not the same, but this
Paul Barattiero: is not gonna add microplastics, I promise you, to your, to you, you're, you're fine using this. We've engineered it perfectly for that reason. So hopefully that can alleviate and.
I don't know what else to say otherwise, but No, but I
Julie Howton: had to, I, I had to in, in good faith. Yeah. Um, yeah. You know, bring it up hundred because Thank you. Also, it, it looks like glass from afar. Yeah. Yeah. And so, um, I just wanted people to know that, you know, in this. We're, it's, it's, but I wanted them to understand that this is an intentional, there's a reason all you have to do is hear the, you know, but I, I released mine before we started recording, so Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
Um, you know, so,
Paul Barattiero: oh, and, and, and those that have the flasks mm-hmm. If it's not doing the. You're still getting the hydrogen you're supposed to, but what I would recommend you do is clean this out with a vinegar water solution. You can do 50 50 vinegar water, you can do, uh, two thirds vinegar to wa. One third water.
You can do whatever combination but. If you do a vinegar water combination, even though the electrodes in the bottom may not look like you have calcium buildup. Mm-hmm. If you've been using the flask for a while, what you do is you go to the, the settings here, you go to the the power, and you can see right on there, clean flask.
Mm-hmm. So with the vinegar water solution mixed inside. Use the Clean Flask cycle and it will self-clean and disinfect all of the flask, and then you will notice that you're producing more hydrogen because you've cleaned out the system.
Julie Howton: Interesting. Good to know. Um, yeah,
Paul Barattiero: and
Julie Howton: I'm guessing too, you know, depending on what kind of filtered wa, you know, what kind of water you're putting in as how long it'll take before you have to.
Address that. Yeah.
Paul Barattiero: Yeah. I've been, I, I've been using this since January and it's probably, I've cleaned it twice. Yeah. But I'm using reverse osmosis or distilled water mostly in here. And so that's fine. But yeah.
Julie Howton: Awesome. So we're at the point in the conversation where listeners know I am gonna ask you for one step.
That they can take starting today to improve their health.
Paul Barattiero: Go to echo water.com and order at least a flask or something else. Um, and what we're gonna do, unbeknownst to Julie, we're going, we're going to give you a nice little coupon code called Inspired. Nice inspired with a D, and that will allow you to get a discount.
Very nice in honor of Julie. So we, we love her and we love what she's doing, so use that. Go to echo water.com now. If you're wanting to understand the studies, go to hydrogen studies.com with an thank you. That is you, you've read
Julie Howton: my mind. That was gonna be my next question. Yay.
Paul Barattiero: Hydrogen Studies. It is a search page.
There's no products there. We just want you to be educated when you're bored. Friday night, get some, uh, little healthy snack and go study up on hydrogen. But literally echo water.com is where you would get the products and. I just told you the, the coupon code, but hydrogen studies.com, you can go research whatever condition organ.
You can parse the data by human studies, by a whatever country. You can do it all. But I, I definitely would say that's the first thing you do. The second thing. I strongly recommend is beyond, you know, the normal stuff, you know, of getting proper sleep and moving, like do something. Yeah. I'm not saying you gotta go into a gym two hours a day.
No, that could actually be problematic. But just move around, go outside, move. Do, do some dancing, put some music on and dance. Shake your booty. Whatever it is that gets your body moving, uh, that's great. But my, you, you already know that. You already know you should be doing that. What I'm gonna say. The greatest thing, in my opinion, that helps someone become a healthy human is forgiveness.
Ah, become good at forgiveness. And what do I mean by that? Don't hold claim on other people's lives for what they do to you. People are gonna do horrible things, unkind things, don't
Julie Howton: let it go, hold
Paul Barattiero: claim on their life.
Julie Howton: Yeah.
Paul Barattiero: Give them forgiveness. It doesn't make okay what they've done. And I'm never saying, do not be around abusive people.
Get them out of your life. You don't. You know, when we learn in life, you know, the two great commandments, love. Right? Mm-hmm. Love others and forgive. Those are two great commandments in life. We are to love and to forgive. We don't have to trust. Nothing says anywhere that you're commander to trust. Trust is a relationship, and yes, you should only trust individuals that aren't abusive or harmful to you.
So I do not advocate abuse in any way. Abuse should never. Happen in from anyone to anyone or animals or anything else,
Julie Howton: right?
Paul Barattiero: But you can choose to forgive, and that doesn't minimize you. It amplifies you. It causes you to be more healthy and to free your body so you're not holding onto that emotional content.
And then. Choose not to be around them, choose to release them, at least from you, they'll have to deal with their issues. Trust me, they're gonna have, right. They have to deal with that. But you don't have to be the judge,
Julie Howton: uh, that See, I mean, and that's, that's the one step, I mean, yes, get the flask, but also, um, because we are complex humans and, and, yeah.
Yeah. All of us have that underlying emotional stuff that we can either work on and, and really the work on is the releasing I you said, become good at forgiveness. And I thought, well, yeah, practice. Just keep practicing it. Not
Paul Barattiero: everybody's good at it. Yeah. And it doesn't matter hard. I hate that dude, or I hate it's it's, or oh my gosh.
It's
Julie Howton: the practicing of it, um, that releases and heals. And so, see, this is my fa that's why it's always my favorite part because I just, you just never know what somebody's gonna say. And, and that was really, really amazing. Um, and I, I will just say, you know, for somebody who spends her life helping chronically inflame people, um, reduce their inflammation and, and really regain.
A full life. Um, I'm, I have such gratitude for the work that you have done. Um, and, and hopefully your wife feels like, like I do with my journey that you know, her, her journey has greater purpose, um, than her having 10 min 10 years that really weren't great. Um, and so we're really, really grateful that you, you dug in and she was married to the right guy.
And, uh, the rest of us, well, God,
Paul Barattiero: God, uh, it was an arranged marriage by God, so there you go. He was smarter than all of us, and I can tell you. I wouldn't have been that smart to marry her, promise you that. And, and, uh, she, you know, I wasn't her type. She wasn't my type. And here we are 31 years completely in love, and she is the love of my life.
So
Julie Howton: amazing.
Paul Barattiero: I, I, let's hear it. For someone smarter than you,
Julie Howton: we should all, we should, you know? Yeah. If we all listen to those cues, so. Yep.
Paul Barattiero: Yep. Uh, so thank, but she would say, she would say, I'm alive today because of this water. That's the impact it had on her. And that's the beauty of this is that I probably would've ended up either having, she wouldn't be around and I, yeah.
Oh, I get it. '
Julie Howton: cause I was on that same trajectory. Yeah.
Paul Barattiero: Yeah. I,
Julie Howton: you know, I'm, I don't know anybody else who's so happy to be 56, but I didn't think I'd see 50. So, yeah. It's, you know, it, it really is a, a beautiful perspective shift. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and, and you know, um, I also wanna let listeners know and, um, they can find out more about this on, on your website as well, but you do all kinds of educational webinars and I mean people who wanna like really learn.
Uh, you know, Paul is, is out there all the time. Thank you. Um, educating people and, and I've learned a lot just from listening to you on other interviews, but also from the, the webinars that you put out, they're free. Um, thank you. So I would say, you know, also Friday night like. Although yours are Thursday, they They're on Thursday.
Yeah, Thursday night. I gotta take
Paul Barattiero: my wife on a date on Friday.
Julie Howton: So Thursday night, listen to the webinar. Friday night, read the studies. It works out perfectly. All things hydrogen water.
Paul Barattiero: Yes. So, Paul, thank you. And you know, for those of you. Who wanna know who else uses our water. You know, Dwayne Johnson, Jason Sta, um, you know Joe Rogan.
Use our water. Dana White with the UFC, the 49 ERs, the Raiders, the Dodgers.
Julie Howton: So we'll all be elite athletes, is that what you're saying? Or like amazing interviewers.
Paul Barattiero: Yeah, we'll all look like the rock, but
Julie Howton: God forbid, you know, Ken
Paul Barattiero: Kendall Jenner, the Kardashians, you know, I mean, we can go on with a bunch of amazing women as well, but more
Julie Howton: importantly, a lot, a lot, a lot of people who are really taking their health seriously.
Yes, yes. Um, and either wanting to heal or wanting to uplevel and are focused on longevity.
Paul Barattiero: Well, I, I would tell you this, those of you listening. That have autoimmune issues. The reason all of these people who are famous have our water is 'cause they got issues. Right. And that's what you need to understand.
When I talked to Zach Effron years ago, he was on a mono diet for 10 years. Yeah. Because he couldn't eat stuff. He's hard
Julie Howton: hardcore into health and wellness. Yep. And so
Paul Barattiero: now he drinks echo water and he is like, you can tell anyone you want. I love you and I love your water. Because now I'm eating foods that I haven't been able to eat in 10 years.
And, and here's what I want you to understand. Doesn't matter how much money you have, all these people I mentioned have crazy, crazy cash. Yeah. But if you don't have your health, have issues, right? That's right. Yeah. Yeah. And so money doesn't get you good health. Hydrogen water will get you good health. And honestly, 2 99, right?
2 99, you imagine this is probably the least expensive money Zach Aron ever spent on health. And that was the thing that fixed him. So I would just say that invest in yourself. Uh, we do have financing. Oh. HSA and FSA. All Echo products on Echo water.com are HSA and FSA approved. So you can purchase right through our shopping cart.
With your HSA money and your FSA money. Yeah. So that's the best money you could spend your HSA funds on. So thank you so much, Julie. It's been wonderful.
Julie Howton: It's been such a pleasure. I have, you know, eight, eight hours of other questions I wanna dive into, but I promised we, you know, it's, it's gonna be date night tonight.
Paul Barattiero: Right.
Julie Howton: So, yeah. Um, I promised I would let you go, but I really, really appreciate you sharing your wisdom. Yeah. And again, just sharing your life's work with us. Sure. Um, because it's a game changer. And, and yeah. Um, I will, like full disclosure, I have been playing with hydrogen water in different forms and different ways for many years.
Yeah. Um, and, and this is, this is really the real deal. Um, and like you said, it, it, it ends up being. So affordable. Yeah. You know, I, I hear, I cringe, like, I hear my employees all the time talk about how they can't afford this or they can't afford that, and they all come in with their, you know, yeah.
Starbucks. Yeah. They, you know, the, this is $10 copies, it's an investment. Um, yeah. And, and I say for the skeptics, dig into the science. Yeah. And, um, and then give it a try. For sure.
Paul Barattiero: The other thing I would say, for those of you out there who have autoimmune, you probably have some other things like uh, low vitamin D levels and you probably have some other things.
And so. I founded and own Echo water.com, and that's where I first helped my wife. There were residual things that I had to help her with because she had extremely low vitamin D three, so she ended up with long COVID. I had two days of COVID low energy. She had six weeks. Right? And that's because her vitamin D levels were low and.
So what did I do? I developed a Vitamin D light that will double vitamin D levels in 90 days. There's nothing else in the world. It's patented and that's what we do. So I'm one of these guys that is so in love with my clean. He's not
Julie Howton: stopping.
Paul Barattiero: No, I'm not stopping because I, I have another whole company in the light space where we take the beauty of the sun and we harvest the good.
Nanometers and wavelengths out of the sun. That truly changed the body, and we've done that as well. And so we, we should do a podcast sometime on that because Yeah. Come
Julie Howton: back and, and, and, yeah, educate us on that and share that for sure. Yeah. My wife's vitamin
Paul Barattiero: D levels were so low and she had been, she had been on IV and supplements for 18 months.
Didn't move much. 90 days later after developing the light, she, she tripled her vitamin D levels and now she's like, whoa, this is so much different. 'cause that's gonna affect dopamine, it's gonna affect serotonin, it's gonna affect balance, it's gonna affect brain energy. It's a lot of things. But that's, we can talk about that, uh, another time because that's a whole podcast.
On light. Yeah. Red light, infrared, UVB. There's so many things you can do with the light. And that's
Julie Howton: the thing, it's, it's, you know, no one, we need to change that mindset of, you know, the one fix, right? If I do this one thing, all my problems are solved. Most of us got two chronic illness of, with years and years of things going on behind the scenes, and we still need to address that.
Like I still
Paul Barattiero: for sure.
Julie Howton: You know, I, I'm still supporting my body in the other ways it needs, um, yes. And, and so I love that you said that and yeah, it's now it's out there. Your invitation to come back and, and yeah. Yeah. Talk to us about, about light and, and vitamin D and all of that goodness as well. So thank you, Paul.
Paul Barattiero: Thank you, Julie. Appreciate it.
Julie Howton: For everyone listening, remember you can get the links and the show notes. And transcripts by visiting Inspired Living Show. I hope you had a great time and enjoyed this episode as much as I did. I'll see you next week.
Julie Howton: Welcome back to The Inspired Living with Autoimmunity podcast. I'm your host, Julie Houghton, and today we're joined by Dr. Paul Barattiero, who is a pioneering advocate for molecular hydrogen therapy. With over two decades of experience in the health and wellness industry, his life's mission is to spread awareness of how hydrogen water can enhance the quality of life and support health.
In today's conversation, we are discussing how incorporating hydrogen water into your wellness routine can help you heal by supporting gut health, neutralizing harmful free radicals, and mitigating oxidative stress and inflammation.
Paul, welcome to the podcast.
Paul Barattiero: Thank you much. It's a pleasure to be with you.
Julie Howton: I'm so excited for this. I'm, I'm such a, a fan of hydrogen water in general and, and what Echo is doing. But first and foremost, I want for listeners to get to know a little bit about your journey, because I, I, I know you know you this. Diving into hydrogen wasn't necessarily your life's plan.
Paul Barattiero: Definitely not. I, I talk a lot about this. People, most everyone asks, how did you know about this? Because you were the first to ever do this. It was 20 years ago. How the heck did you know?
And so I tell people. It was an accident. It, it was almost an accident, and I, I'm not some brilliant, amazing individual who planned this out strategically and was like, oh my gosh, I want to create a hydrogen water company. It, it really happened. Out of necessity. My wife, my queen, the love of my life was sick.
Uh, I've been married 31 years, my wife and I, and the first 10 years of our marriage, she was progressively getting worse and I would put it back to birth control. When we got married, I told her, I will wear a condom. Please don't use birth control. And unfortunately, she didn't listen and she took birth control and within four months of getting married, she gained 60 pounds.
So that started off a process for the first 10 years of our marriage. She had thyroid issues, she had gynecological issues, she had anemia.
She had everything you could think of that was going wrong. And I literally was like, oh crap. Um, I don't know that she is going to make it. And so here we are, 31 years later and she is amazing. Looks amazing, feels, you know, so it is what it is. But that's really, echo water is a result of healing. My wife from anemia, from adenomyosis, from hypothyroid, from gynecological issues and on and on it goes short term brain issues 'cause of, you know, mercury in our system that.
Caused yeast to go in the brain, which is pretty typical. So anyways, you know, I was in the diabetes world at the time. I was definitely not in the gynecological world, and so I had to learn all these things. I had to figure it out because someone who I loved very much needed my help.
Julie Howton: Yeah, amazing. At what point did you realize, holy cow, we like, we have to share this with the world.
Paul Barattiero: Yeah. Well as soon as she was feeling better, quite honestly, I'm like, yeah, uh, I bet you there's a lot of husbands who have no idea and a lot of people who have issues and they don't know what to do with it. And for sure when I figured out it was hydrogen mm-hmm. And it changed her life so dramatically, I was like.
Uh, there is no, uh, one else on the earth that is telling this story, that is talking about it. And just for fun, after my wife was helped, I gave the, the water that we had developed. To someone who had diabetes, and within three to five days, their glucose levels were normal. And I'm like, whoa, hold on a minute.
And at that time, I owned a shoe company that Medicare was paying for shoes every year for people with diabetes because. It was the proper size. And so they, and, and there were insoles that would spread pressure so they wouldn't get decubitus, ulcer, ulcer and therefore amputation. And I thought, well, that's really good.
We're we've reduced amputations in the United States by 65% and 15 years, however. If we can change the disease model, that's even better. Right. That got me very passionate about this. And so the rest is history now, but literally. I didn't understand at the time how important gut health was and that all disease stems from Yeah, gut dysfunction.
I didn't understand that. And, you know, it, it just took me on a path that has become my life's work and I, I love it and I'm passionate about it, and I get to talk about my wife all the time.
Julie Howton: I, and I hear you talk about your wife all the time and, and so, um, it's, it's, it's fun as, as, yeah. Somebody who's a, a fairly newlywed. So, you know, we are on round two. We've been together a long time and, and yeah. Um, it, it's nice to hear someone who's been married 31 years say such beautiful things about his wife and value that relationship so much.
Oh, here we are. Yeah. Here we Aw his bride. I love it.
Paul Barattiero: Yeah.
Julie Howton: Beautiful family. So let's, thank you. I, I want you to kind of. Give us a little bit of a hydrogen 1 0 1, if you will, of like, why hydrogen? Sure. What is going on? And we're gonna, you know, we won't dive deeply into the gut part, but of course we have to talk about it because Yeah.
It is where autoimmunity begin. Um, yeah. And, and so, you know, what is going on with why do we need hydrogen, you know. Just share with us a little bit.
Paul Barattiero: So to understand that we need to understand a couple core principles. First of all, our body is carbon hydrogen chains. If we really understand the makeup of our body, 63% of our body is hydrogen.
Now mostly that hydrogen is bound to water molecules, proteins, carbohydrates, and so it's not available to function as hydrogen gas, but hydrogen is so critical, like something as simple as stomach acid. Right. HCL, you can't make it without the H. Without the H. Without H, right, hydrogen. So yeah, from a very fundamental perspective, we require hydrogen in the body to function the way we are designed to function.
So, uh. Hydrogen, in fact, is so critical that we have a hydrogen generator built into our body, and that is when we ferment food, which that's how we digest. We ferment foods in our colon. They're just like a car has a tailpipe. We have a tailpipe, just like there's gases that come out of your car, carbon monoxide when you process fuel for energy.
When we ferment foods, we end up with gases coming out of our tailpipe, and one of those gases is hydrogen and, and methane and, and things like this. But we'll talk about hydrogen. We should be producing 10 to 12 liters of hydrogen gas per day. If we had, if we had a properly functioning gut with the proper bacteria.
So let's unpack that a little bit. There are two main types of bacteria, aerobic and anaerobic. And I'm gonna oversimplify this for today's conversation. Thank you. But we have aerobic and we have anaerobic. 96 to 99% of the bacteria in the gut should be anaerobic, microflora, and only one to 4% should be aerobic.
Now, let's talk about what they do because these are bacteria, and bacteria have a role in our body, and we need to understand that role because we hear gut dysfunction. We ha we hear. Leaky gut. We hear all these crazy terms that really mean nothing because what is leaky gut? You have something going down your leg.
I, I don't think so. Like we do understand this is an open system. When you go to the bathroom, you're not unlocking some door. It is an open system and stuff comes out of you. So what is leaky gut? I, I don't even understand the term. What we need to understand is that a gut dysfunction means you have the wrong terrain and therefore the wrong bacteria.
And what we have to understand is that bacteria. Can what digest certain types of foods or not. So aerobic bacteria likes carbs and sugar, anaerobic likes fatty acids and fiber. If you really think about that, 96 to 99% of gut bacteria. Should be bacteria that want fat and fiber. That should tell you what you should be eating, right?
Only, only one to 4% of the bacteria should be carbs and sugar, because that should be a highlight, a fun thing, not a staple diet. And so what really happens is these bacteria need a terrain to live in. So what creates that terrain? It's electrical potential bacteria thrive on electrical potential, so the tissue of the gut can have a positive or a negative electrical potential.
We want a negative electrical potential for the anaerobic microflora. In fact, studies show that. Anaerobic microflora, strict anaerobes need a negative 300 to a negative 400 millivolts to have the perfect environment for them. And here's the problem. Air robes want a positive electrical charge. Sure. So the truth be known if we take an antibiotic.
Overuse. So if we overuse antibiotics, and what do I mean by that? Antibiotics get a bad rap, but antibacterial or antibiotics are life sustaining in a bacterial infection. If you have a life sustaining bacterial infection, you, you should take an antibiotic to sure help you live. However, if you have a virus or you have something else, it's gonna do nothing but destroy your gut and it's a waste of your time.
So. If you have a bacterial infection that's harming you, definitely take antibiotics and let's heal your gut after the fact, right? If you do not have a life threatening bacterial infection, do not take an antibiotic. Doesn't matter what the doctor tells you to do, do something else to fix your virus. Go to sleep, get some chicken noodle.
So. Viruses are gonna take their course. And if you bolster your system, your immune function is what you need for that. But it does give you a workout for your immune function, which is healthy to do on an annual basis. So that's one thing to understand because when we take an antibiotic, you're gonna change the terrain to a positive electrical potential.
And all of your anaerobic microflora, which should be the majority, will no longer have a home, therefore. Your cravings will become carbs and sugar, and you will have anxiety and depression because of the bacteria that's in your gut, right? Not because you have a problem with depression or you have a problem with anxiety or you like sugar and carbs.
It's because the bacteria in your gut gut, that's what they can consume. Have you ever met someone who eats a salad and has diarrhea? They're like, I'm so frustrated. I'm eating what people are saying is healthy, and I just have diarrhea. Guess what? You don't have bacteria to process fiber. Yeah, so you will have diarrhea.
You have bacteria that wants to process carbs and sugar, not a salad. So we have to change the terrain. And the beautiful thing is the very gas that your gut should be producing is what can heal your gut. We can literally have someone drink the water and in two weeks, gluten and dairy intolerance is gone and therefore.
You have healed or restored your terrain. How are we doing that? Well, I gave you a secret a minute ago, which is. The bacteria that should be in your gut wants a negative electrical potential, and if you have a positive, they're never going to grow. Thrive, create communities. You can take all the prebiotics, probiotics you want if you're not properly hydrated, and the electrical potential in your gut is not correct.
They will never be able to create communities. You have to give them the environment that they can live in. You could tell me, I'm gonna love living in the desert. I'm gonna say, no thanks. I would like to live in a different environment in a home. I don't wanna live out in the sand. Sit. So the bacteria are the same.
They're like, no, I don't want that environment and I'm not gonna live well. I can never create a community with a bunch of friends doing what we're supposed to be doing. So how do we create that with the water? Water coming out of our devices? All of them have a negative 400 to a negative 600 millivolts of electrical potential when you drink that water within the first hour, and then definitely within two weeks.
You are bathing your intestinal tract with the proper electrical potential, and you're now changing the terrain and the biome to be suitable for anaerobic microflora so we can heal the gut. Now, when you heal the gut, everything else is working properly because I, I say all the time,
Julie Howton: listeners know, like if you're listening to this podcast, yeah.
You have gut issues, like Yeah. Yeah. By the time you have that chronic inflammation. Yeah. Whether it's autoimmunity, you mentioned cancer, you know, any, any of it. Diabetes especially, you know, type two, all of it. I just, and I, I, I kind of was like, yeah. I remember back when we really started to realize how, just how integral gut health was to all of this.
And I, I, the first like year or so that I was LI just, I was like, oh, come on. I was like rolling my eyes like, oh, it's the gut. It's, I'm like, oh, it is the gut. Um,
Paul Barattiero: yeah. I
Julie Howton: wanna, I wanna clarify too, so
Paul Barattiero: yeah,
Julie Howton: tell us a little bit about. The water because I, I've had so many people say, you know, so, so, you know, are you changing, you know, is it still water?
Is it, um, I know the answer 'cause I've heard, I've heard you talk enough, but, um, yeah,
Paul Barattiero: it's a great question. People are confused and probably the number one question we get is, uh, hydrogen water isn't hydrogen already in water? And I, I understand the question because it may, of course you're gonna ask that question.
Let's unpack that a little bit. H2O is water, but it is no longer gas. Water is a liquid. Hydrogen and oxygen are gases, but when you combine those two gases, they form a liquid. They are no longer gases. So you can no longer say, well, oxygen's gonna do what oxygen does, and hydrogen's gonna do what? Hydrogen, because you've created a new thing called water and.
That's what we need to understand, so. Hydrogen water simply means three things. A, you have a water molecule. Mm-hmm. B, you have dissolved H two gas into that water. It doesn't combine. It doesn't create a new molecule. It's like a person who sits in a car. They don't become part of the car. They're still there.
Get, oh, I like that
Julie Howton: analogy. Yeah. When you get to your
Paul Barattiero: destination. They all get out. Okay. You're in a vehicle 'cause it takes you somewhere. We are using water as a vehicle to deliver H two gas to the body. That's what hydrogen water is. It doesn't change pH 'cause we don't want to change pH.
Julie Howton: Yeah.
Paul Barattiero: There's no benefit to the human body for drinking a solution that has high or low pH.
It's all nonsense science. Stomach acid will buffer the pH in seconds, so don't worry about the pH of liquids. What we want is hydrogen gas and a negative electrical potential. That's what's gonna help your gut. And if we help your gut, we're helping your immune function, and that's one of the greatest things we do.
70% of your immune function is tied to the bacteria in your gut, so having the right bacteria. Boost your immune function and all your antioxidant pathways, and that's where the oxidation is managed properly. That's where the inflammation is managed properly. That's where your mitochondrial function is managed because if you eat too much carbs and sugar, you're gonna have reactive oxygen species that will become hydroxyl radicals, which is the most cell damaging radical in the human body.
We don't want those things. We don't want people sugar and carb loading. We want the body to produce a TP in the mitochondria, so you don't need to be spiking your life with sugar constantly and hitting a turbo button all the time. You should have normal, wonderful energy to do whatever you want all the time without having to eat sugar.
Yeah,
Julie Howton: absolutely true. I, I tell people all the time as they're shifting diet, that that, you know, because almost everybody that I meet, unless they've already been doing a lot of work and they're totally car addicted, you know, again, 'cause they have this imbalance, uh, and I use that as the like kind of a driver for change of like, yes, you're gonna have cravings in the beginning.
Yeah, but it's not you, so, right. So decide not to feed them so that you can create the change
Paul Barattiero: and you might just feel like crap for a little bit. Yeah. And that's okay.
Julie Howton: Do, do, should people expect, I, because there's so much I wanna talk about, like I would deep dive on the inflammation, what we know we have to heal the gut.
And then we get this, this ripple effect, right? Yeah. We can just break that inflammatory cycle. Like you said, you know, it's this selective antioxidant. It's,
Paul Barattiero: yeah.
Julie Howton: Um, so, so somebody who is listening to this, who perhaps has an even gone down the diet change pathway, or maybe they have, they've made, you know, various healthy lifestyle changes.
When they start to incorporate hydrogen water into their, their healing regimen, do they expect disrupt? Like, to me, and actually I just had a, a, a good friend, um, ask me, she's like, because she recently got an Echo flask and she was like, you know, I, I, I have some like gi upset. Do you think it's, and I'm like, well, you're changing your balance in your microbiome.
Um, so is there like an expected disruption or not really?
Paul Barattiero: It is pretty rare. Okay. The only thing, the only thing is she could have some SIBO that is hydrogen based sibo. Gotcha. If it's methane based sibo, no issue. If it's hydrogen based, she could have some inflammation because what SIBO really is, is the right bacteria too far north in the wrong place.
Julie Howton: Yep.
Paul Barattiero: That's right. So if. And those bacteria like hydrogen, it becomes their energy source. Just like h pylori, right? They like hydrogen. It's an energy source for them. So if you have SIBO that is hydrogen based, sibo, which is not everyone, right? Even if you have sibo, you have methane or hydrogen. If you have hydrogen based SIBO or hydrogen seeking sibo, then you need to start out with smaller amounts of the water.
Gotcha. As your gut restores, it'll change the bacteria. And I, I what I tell people, 'cause people say, well, how did I get SIBO in the first place? I'm healthy. I'm this, I'm that. And I'll say, do you water fast or do you do dry fasting? And they're like, yeah. And I said, have you ever broken your fast with fermented foods?
And they're like. Yeah, I did. I said That's where you got sibo. That's it. Well, I should say that's where you would easily get sibo because if you break your fast with fermented foods, it's gonna react in the small intestine way too fast and, and it's a problem. And they're like, oh my gosh. I said, yeah, you really wanna break a fast with broths or something simpler.
Um, and be careful because you've gone without food and now you're gonna put something rich or something in your system. Just be careful of that. But if you do have sibo, there are protocols with, um, essential oils. There's other protocols. I mean, there are protocols with antibiotics that you can take to sure do that.
Um, and, and, and the good news is. If you use antibiotic, then you start drinking the water right after that and build your gut back up in two weeks. Right. And you're golden. Yeah. So
Julie Howton: if
Paul Barattiero: you're, you can use these tools, be intentional. Sure. Yes, exactly.
Julie Howton: Absolutely. Uh, yeah, AMA, so I'm married to a physician.
Yeah. And we have a clinic and so I. Mo not most of, I'm, I'm very, I, we do a lot of lab testing, right. A lot of thorough lab testing with people. It's one of the places, especially for my autoimmune clients that have been struggling for years, I like to just, I call it, looking under all the rocks so we know what we're, what we're dealing with.
Yeah. Um, I know anecdotally, like we had a patient who. Uh, all of a sudden, you know, her, all her, her cardiac panel looked so much better and she said the only thing she had changed mm-hmm. Was she added hydrogen water in. Right. Her oxidative stress was down. Yeah. Um, so yeah, so we've seen for sure we've seen that for, for the lab geek.
'cause I care mostly about how you feel. Right. Because yeah, to me the labs tend to lag a little behind it's indicator. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Um, and I know there's so many anecdotal, you know, so many, I'm sure you get all kinds of feedback all the time from, you know, my, this got better, my doc got better. Um, any, anything trackable or testable that, that people, and again, I say that with a little bit of.
Like I always take it with a grain of salt. When my rheumatoid arthritis was, it's was destructive and active. My C-reactive protein was always normal. Right. Yeah. So I was one of those people that my labs didn't, I I was the didn't imagine know. Labs are fine. Labs are fine. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but do, are there testable?
I know there's so many, how many studies have been done to date? 1500. 1500. Yeah. This is not new science. It's just secret science.
Paul Barattiero: And, and, and the big, the big fun thing to know is the earliest studies we found are 1888.
Julie Howton: It's crazy.
Paul Barattiero: That's wild. So 150 years of research, 40 plus proven benefits, 200 disease models.
And the reason why we have so many disease models is because disease is a result of the combination of oxidative stress and chronic inflammation. So hydrogen. Reduces oxidative stress and chronic inflammation. So we would assume and expect that all pathology would be affected. And even though we don't say this is a cure for such and such, we are just saying hydrogen reduces or modulates oxidative stress to where oxidation is present.
We need oxidation to live. Yes, but we do not need oxidative stress. We don't need inflammation chronically, right? We need inflammation when needed for injury or a reaction in the body, but chronic inflammation is a problem, and that's definitely where RA comes from. Sure. And we have great studies on ra, but we have 123 studies on cancer.
We have 77 studies on diabetes. We have 22 on Parkinson's. We've got studies on Alzheimer's, colitis. We, every gut issue you could imagine. You know, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, bipolar, schizophrenia, on and on it goes, and people just need to understand that, that if they had hydrogen, they wouldn't have this disease in the first place.
And you can restore gut function. And trust me, you will feel that and you will feel good. And it is nice. And, and I don't care what people eat. The good news is eat whatever the flip you want to eat, but hopefully it's a varied diet and Right. I eat ice cream, I eat dairy, I eat gluten, I eat whatever the heck I want.
And I feel amazing all the time. But that's because that's what you're supposed to be able to do. And, and should I be eating ice cream at every meal? Heavens no. Should I be eating? No, it is common sense. What we should be eating. Mm-hmm. And that's fiber and fats. We should be eating a diet that is naturally occurring foods, what we call whole foods and vegetables and things.
Right. And then listen. But we should also
Julie Howton: be resilient. Like I remember, and I, I think it's a typical part of the healing journey. When I started to heal and I found out, you know, I was fat deprived and, and, um,
Paul Barattiero: yeah. So
Julie Howton: when I, when I found what I needed to be eating, you know, including and avoiding to feel well.
Yeah, I stayed in that little box probably way too long, held onto it way too tightly Aimed for perfection. Yeah. Right. Um, and I remember, you know, my now husband used to say all the time, but you should be resilient. You should be real. Health is resilient.
Paul Barattiero: That's right. Yeah. You, you should literally have celiac.
Julie Howton: So I'm not gonna ever try. Yeah, to eat gluten, like for me it was somebody with Celiac, even in
Paul Barattiero: Italy,
Julie Howton: you know, I'm just not, and I know people with Celiac that go to Italy and, and can do it. I'm not brave enough to potentially ruin my trip. Got it. And they have really, really good gluten-free food in Italy, so, and they take, they actually take it really seriously.
Paul Barattiero: Well, you don't even need gluten-free fruit over there. But what we need to understand is that the pesticides and the chemicals that we put in our food is where the problem is. It is not gluten. We've been eating gluten for thousands of years on this planet with no issues. Sure. It, it is the chemicals and, and clearly there are individuals like my Queen that are more susceptible to those chemicals damaging her and.
I will say that she, she dabbles can because of the water, eat gluten and not have a problem. Okay. Good for her. But she feels a bit better when she doesn't and, and so we can go over to Europe, which we do, and she can eat anything she wants and it's great. Yeah. So I, I would just say that someday we'll have food that's actually food and we'll have appropriate
Julie Howton: if we get what, as we move back toward real food.
Yeah. And, and I say that all the time here, like the, the wheat in this country, not only Yeah. Is it higher gluten, you know, it's all been modified. That's right. I mean, the last thing they do when they harvest it is spray it with more glyphosate to dry that out. Right. That's right. So it it's a, it's a, a no-brainer.
Paul Barattiero: Yeah. Yeah. So you, you, I probably 90% of my diet is organic non GMO in my life, just because, and then when I go travel, I eat whatever the flip I want. Right. And there's no way to know, because you can't control it when you're out. I have gotten to that point. Well there, I mean, there are some people I know that are friends of mine that won't eat if there's not some, and I just haven't gotten there yet because I don't have the effects that they have when they eat that way.
Well, you feel well. You feel well.
Julie Howton: Exactly. Do you feel Well, I mean, I 'cause my
Paul Barattiero: body. I can handle it. My, my gut is working wonderful, and luckily I'm a 53-year-old person who has no health challenges, and so I, but I've been drinking hydrogen water for, you know, 20 years. But the, the reality for me is, you know, I do not eat a lot of sugar, but I do enjoy eating it when I have a moment to do that.
And so, right. It is what it is. I do think diversity is good. I think it's good to eat Mediterranean food. I think it's good to eat every kind of food you could imagine, right? Because believe it or not, your gut needs that workout you. You actually don't want to be on a mono diet. However, there are some people that have to, and so I'm not talking bad about you or saying Don't do what you need to do.
Listen to your body, live your life. Yes, but get the water. And drink echo water. Don't buy some cheap thing. That's a scam. Hydrogen product, which is 99% of the products on the market, get a real evidence-based, certified third party certified hydrogen product, which is Echo. Yes, we're the largest company in the world.
We're the original company. Then enjoy your life some more. So you don't have toileting problems. You don't have to be worried about going out in public and having a bathroom issue. I'm telling you, my wife was there. I know what it's like when she has an accident years ago. It's horrible. Yeah. Unless you bring another set of clothes with you, it is even
Julie Howton: still nobody, you know?
No. No adult wants that.
Paul Barattiero: Nobody wants that, that, so.
Julie Howton: Yeah. Trust
Paul Barattiero: me. And I don't wanna share that without my wife's permission. She's given me permission. I hope so. But the, the, the, yeah. The point. Yeah. Yeah. I just threw under the bus. Right. But no, the, the reality, the reality is, no, we're all human.
Julie Howton: Right? So I love that.
Yes. Listen,
Paul Barattiero: we, we have issues. I have, yeah. You know, I, trust me, I, life is life and everything happens, the good, bad, and the ugly. But I'm simply saying, my desire in life is for you. Whoever's listening to me right now and listening to us, I want you. To accomplish and live your divine potential. I believe you have a divine potential, and I want you to live that.
I want you to be able to get up in the morning and have energy and go do what you need to do, and live the best life you can live, because it's what I want for everyone. Yeah. I I don't want you to feel fatigued all the time. I don't want you to feel like crap all the time, right? I want you to feel good and so will this solve every problem.
We not, but for many of you it will. The people, like my wife, it solved 85%. That's amazing. And then we had to go help her with the methylation issues. We had to go help her with some other things.
Julie Howton: Right. I'm glad you said, had said that
Paul Barattiero: help, you know, it helped her. Yeah. Yeah. So it wasn't like it was a, it's a magic cure.
But I will tell you, my wife is so sensitive. Her gut, you know. And, and she's not a good patient. My wife's not, she was sitting right here. I would say the same thing. She's not compliant, which is why she's got the issues that she does. She stays up too late at night, right. She thinks going to bed at one or 1:00 AM is healthy and she doesn't wanna miss, she's got fomo.
So the, the reality is, if I can ever get her to get 10 hours of sleep, we could really, you know, she'd be even better, but, right.
Julie Howton: So, so this is, this is a, a, a real needle mover. For sure as you are in incorporating a healthy lifestyle all around. Again, we're not talking about perfection. We're talking about, you know, yeah, we need to sleep, we need to move.
Those that are like me. Sounds like a lot like your wife. I, I call myself a collector. Um, you know, I, between, you know, lead and Mercury and mycotoxins. Oh, she had 'em all. I mean, you name it. Yep. You know, um, she grew
Paul Barattiero: up in la just drinking the water gets you those four things.
Julie Howton: Yeah. You know, amazing that I feel, I, I always say I talk about divine purpose, right?
I know I'm meant to be doing this because I shouldn't. Have been able to even start to heal
Paul Barattiero: Yep.
Julie Howton: Without addressing my actual underlying causes. Um, so I, I think that's the important thing for people to understand is. We, we need, and you, you mentioned that those key words, right? Like we need something to move that needle, to give us the energy to help reduce the inflammation.
Increase the tolerance. I feel like now, ever since 2020, there's more, even more reactive gut, you know?
Paul Barattiero: Yeah.
Julie Howton: Allergies, sensitivities, histamine problems.
Paul Barattiero: Yep.
Julie Howton: Um, and, and so yeah. Everybody should be drinking clean water anyway.
Paul Barattiero: Oh, that, that is a given. That's a given. And
Julie Howton: so I, I get two questions a lot that I wanna ask you in particular about the flask.
'cause I'm a huge fan of the flask. Thank you. Um, I am blessed. I, I now realize that I, I love water. You know, some people it's like a, it's hard to get them to drink water. Um, sure. So I love this because I, I do, I travel with it. I, you know, I definitely, um, you know, we were excited to start carrying the flask in the clinic, but the two questions I get are one, you know, and, and I, I already know the answer.
I'm just asking because I get it enough. Um, pe some people like really. You know, they like that kind of protocol. Like, well, how many am I supposed to be drinking? And Sure. True. Three to six. And I heard you say maybe start slow if you're somebody who
Paul Barattiero: Yep.
Julie Howton: Um, but. You know, is three a day enough? Does it matter if they're spread out?
Give us a little direction. Yeah.
Paul Barattiero: So I would say three a day is great, six is even better. And definitely let's mimic the human body. We would eat three times a day. We would have farting three times a day. We would create flatulence three times a day. So let's drink this spread out during the day. Let's say you do three to six a day, spread out, uh, try not.
For many of you, try not to drink it late at night. It will help your sleep, but if you drink it right before bed, you might have to get up and pee during the night. So try to drink, you know, an hour or two before you're going to bed to finish your drinking, but drink throughout the day and have better energy.
Have. You know, mitochondria function, gut function, brain function, all these kind of things that you want to have, that's what this is gonna do. And so, you know, you don't have to be perfect. You don't only have to drink echo water, you can drink other types of water. Make sure that there're filtered. I always say don't.
Be a filter. Buy a filter. I like that. So don't create your body or don't make your body filter out all the crap. Get it filtered before it goes in. It's a lot easier to filter water and have the contaminants out than it is to bring it in your body. Please don't ever drink tap water asking them, is this tap water or are you getting this at least from the Coke machine?
Big secret. There's a filter, there's a carbon filter right in the Coke machine, and if you can get them to give you water from that, at least it has some filtering.
Julie Howton: Yeah. So
Paul Barattiero: at least do that and you can,
Julie Howton: you can. Pour this out and drink it out of a glass. Correct. Correct. Like I just always have my flask with me.
Paul Barattiero: Um, yeah, well I I do And you got two hours to drink it. Once you poured into a glass, you got two hours. And, and so that's wonderful. You know, here's the deal. This was created for two people, skeptical people and people that travel. So once you are no longer skeptical, 'cause you're like, oh my gosh, this has changed my life.
We have a pitcher that makes a half a gallon in 10 minutes. We have an unders sink system that's reverse osmosis and a hydrogen unit that'll make a quarter gallon a minute so that you don't have to wait 10 minutes for 12 ounces. But this is amazing for travel. It's amazing for skeptical people who are like, ah, I don't know if it's, it sounds really good, but I don't know if it's gonna change my life as much as you say.
Listen, 15 cents a day, that's what this costs you. And if you divide that out by six, you, you do understand it's like two or 3 cents per drink that is a million times better than a tablet that costs you a dollar per use. This makes no sense, right? This makes sense. If you were to do for the five years, you're gonna have this.
That's $1,500 in tablets for just one time a day. If we, if we use six tablets a day, imagine you're gonna have $7,000 in three. You know, I'm just five years, I'm just telling you, this is what you want to get and you don't want to go on Alibaba or for buying buy crappy bottles. 'cause they make chlorine, not hydrogen.
Trust me. Invest in your stuff. Well, and I gave, gave one to my,
Julie Howton: my best friend and, and she's one of those, she doesn't drink out of it. She, she, oh, that's good. Pours it into a glass and then she makes a glass for her husband. And so they're actually, you know, 'cause get her would never buy one. But here's the other thing I hear all the time, and I, I understand why, but, but I would wanna address.
Because this, it, it's such a beautiful too, like the design is so slick and great. Yeah. Thank you. Um, it is not glass,
Paul Barattiero: right?
Julie Howton: I understand why it can't be glass, but can you touch on that for, for listeners and are you guys working on a workaround?
Paul Barattiero: Nope. We're not because we can't. So here, here's, here's the deal.
Uh, this part. Definitely is plastic. And the reason being is because in a 10 minute cycle, when you turn this on, yep. For example, when I turn this on, you can see
gonna start 10 minutes, right? And, and you can see all the little amazing bubbles going in now. In our product, you, this is only hydrogen in the other crappy bottles. The scan bottles on the market, it's oxygen, hydrogen, chlorine. You don't know what you're getting. Our chlorine is coming out. See that little blue light right there?
That's where oxygen, ozone, chlorine is all coming out. This is just hydrogen going in. So number one, I want you to understand that. Number two, when we are. Doing this, we will build up 64 PSI. That's why you push the top and release the pressure before taking the lid off. Otherwise the lid could, uh mm-hmm go flying.
And once, once you do that, that's 64 PSI is gonna cause. Whatever this is made out of to flex. Mm-hmm. We have tested this up to 200 PSI. You cannot use glass. It would shatter. I mean, imagine, yeah. Being a customer and having this shatter. We have other competitors that make glass bottles and people put pictures on our website of their bottles shattered.
Oh. Can you imagine how horrible that would be? So number one. We can't make it in glass. We've tried number two. The plastic that we use is PPSU. What is that Plastic? That's the plastic baby bottles are made of. That's an FDA approved medical grade plastic. It does not produce microplastics in our application.
If you take breast milk. And put it in a baby bottle. Guess what? Breast milk is incredible. But it has these wonderful little things called enzymes in it. And those enzymes eat at the plastic. Well, good news is you're not putting breast milk in here. Please don't do that. Don't, you're putting water. And guess what else?
You're not putting hot water in here. Right? So because we're the, the use of this bottle is room temperature or chilled water, right? And it's not breast milk. I know that's surprising to you all, but we're not hydrogenating breast milk in here. We're just using water with the proper use of this bottle.
There are no microplastics getting in to this,
Julie Howton: and I will say this, I, I am like, I'm hardcore. So I've been plastic free for at least a decade. 'cause again, and you do a test on me, I still have BPA. Yeah. Like it's crazy.
Paul Barattiero: Yeah. Oh yeah. You'll get it from Cane all kind stuff. But
Julie Howton: this is, I use this every day.
Yeah, yeah,
Paul Barattiero: yeah.
Julie Howton: Um, and, and people were shocked 'cause especially my clients, at first they were like, but. But then I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.
Paul Barattiero: Yeah, well, no. So trust me, I am not an advocate of U of using or overusing plastic, right? I'm 100% don't U overuse plastic. We will never not be able to use plastic in our life.
Trust me. We will have to, I know to use plastic, it's just reality of the life we live. It's you
Julie Howton: limit and you're in control. But this is. Not the same, but this
Paul Barattiero: is not gonna add microplastics, I promise you, to your, to you, you're, you're fine using this. We've engineered it perfectly for that reason. So hopefully that can alleviate and.
I don't know what else to say otherwise, but No, but I
Julie Howton: had to, I, I had to in, in good faith. Yeah. Um, yeah. You know, bring it up hundred because Thank you. Also, it, it looks like glass from afar. Yeah. Yeah. And so, um, I just wanted people to know that, you know, in this. We're, it's, it's, but I wanted them to understand that this is an intentional, there's a reason all you have to do is hear the, you know, but I, I released mine before we started recording, so Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
Um, you know, so,
Paul Barattiero: oh, and, and, and those that have the flasks mm-hmm. If it's not doing the. You're still getting the hydrogen you're supposed to, but what I would recommend you do is clean this out with a vinegar water solution. You can do 50 50 vinegar water, you can do, uh, two thirds vinegar to wa. One third water.
You can do whatever combination but. If you do a vinegar water combination, even though the electrodes in the bottom may not look like you have calcium buildup. Mm-hmm. If you've been using the flask for a while, what you do is you go to the, the settings here, you go to the the power, and you can see right on there, clean flask.
Mm-hmm. So with the vinegar water solution mixed inside. Use the Clean Flask cycle and it will self-clean and disinfect all of the flask, and then you will notice that you're producing more hydrogen because you've cleaned out the system.
Julie Howton: Interesting. Good to know. Um, yeah,
Paul Barattiero: and
Julie Howton: I'm guessing too, you know, depending on what kind of filtered wa, you know, what kind of water you're putting in as how long it'll take before you have to.
Address that. Yeah.
Paul Barattiero: Yeah. I've been, I, I've been using this since January and it's probably, I've cleaned it twice. Yeah. But I'm using reverse osmosis or distilled water mostly in here. And so that's fine. But yeah.
Julie Howton: Awesome. So we're at the point in the conversation where listeners know I am gonna ask you for one step.
That they can take starting today to improve their health.
Paul Barattiero: Go to echo water.com and order at least a flask or something else. Um, and what we're gonna do, unbeknownst to Julie, we're going, we're going to give you a nice little coupon code called Inspired. Nice inspired with a D, and that will allow you to get a discount.
Very nice in honor of Julie. So we, we love her and we love what she's doing, so use that. Go to echo water.com now. If you're wanting to understand the studies, go to hydrogen studies.com with an thank you. That is you, you've read
Julie Howton: my mind. That was gonna be my next question. Yay.
Paul Barattiero: Hydrogen Studies. It is a search page.
There's no products there. We just want you to be educated when you're bored. Friday night, get some, uh, little healthy snack and go study up on hydrogen. But literally echo water.com is where you would get the products and. I just told you the, the coupon code, but hydrogen studies.com, you can go research whatever condition organ.
You can parse the data by human studies, by a whatever country. You can do it all. But I, I definitely would say that's the first thing you do. The second thing. I strongly recommend is beyond, you know, the normal stuff, you know, of getting proper sleep and moving, like do something. Yeah. I'm not saying you gotta go into a gym two hours a day.
No, that could actually be problematic. But just move around, go outside, move. Do, do some dancing, put some music on and dance. Shake your booty. Whatever it is that gets your body moving, uh, that's great. But my, you, you already know that. You already know you should be doing that. What I'm gonna say. The greatest thing, in my opinion, that helps someone become a healthy human is forgiveness.
Ah, become good at forgiveness. And what do I mean by that? Don't hold claim on other people's lives for what they do to you. People are gonna do horrible things, unkind things, don't
Julie Howton: let it go, hold
Paul Barattiero: claim on their life.
Julie Howton: Yeah.
Paul Barattiero: Give them forgiveness. It doesn't make okay what they've done. And I'm never saying, do not be around abusive people.
Get them out of your life. You don't. You know, when we learn in life, you know, the two great commandments, love. Right? Mm-hmm. Love others and forgive. Those are two great commandments in life. We are to love and to forgive. We don't have to trust. Nothing says anywhere that you're commander to trust. Trust is a relationship, and yes, you should only trust individuals that aren't abusive or harmful to you.
So I do not advocate abuse in any way. Abuse should never. Happen in from anyone to anyone or animals or anything else,
Julie Howton: right?
Paul Barattiero: But you can choose to forgive, and that doesn't minimize you. It amplifies you. It causes you to be more healthy and to free your body so you're not holding onto that emotional content.
And then. Choose not to be around them, choose to release them, at least from you, they'll have to deal with their issues. Trust me, they're gonna have, right. They have to deal with that. But you don't have to be the judge,
Julie Howton: uh, that See, I mean, and that's, that's the one step, I mean, yes, get the flask, but also, um, because we are complex humans and, and, yeah.
Yeah. All of us have that underlying emotional stuff that we can either work on and, and really the work on is the releasing I you said, become good at forgiveness. And I thought, well, yeah, practice. Just keep practicing it. Not
Paul Barattiero: everybody's good at it. Yeah. And it doesn't matter hard. I hate that dude, or I hate it's it's, or oh my gosh.
It's
Julie Howton: the practicing of it, um, that releases and heals. And so, see, this is my fa that's why it's always my favorite part because I just, you just never know what somebody's gonna say. And, and that was really, really amazing. Um, and I, I will just say, you know, for somebody who spends her life helping chronically inflame people, um, reduce their inflammation and, and really regain.
A full life. Um, I'm, I have such gratitude for the work that you have done. Um, and, and hopefully your wife feels like, like I do with my journey that you know, her, her journey has greater purpose, um, than her having 10 min 10 years that really weren't great. Um, and so we're really, really grateful that you, you dug in and she was married to the right guy.
And, uh, the rest of us, well, God,
Paul Barattiero: God, uh, it was an arranged marriage by God, so there you go. He was smarter than all of us, and I can tell you. I wouldn't have been that smart to marry her, promise you that. And, and, uh, she, you know, I wasn't her type. She wasn't my type. And here we are 31 years completely in love, and she is the love of my life.
So
Julie Howton: amazing.
Paul Barattiero: I, I, let's hear it. For someone smarter than you,
Julie Howton: we should all, we should, you know? Yeah. If we all listen to those cues, so. Yep.
Paul Barattiero: Yep. Uh, so thank, but she would say, she would say, I'm alive today because of this water. That's the impact it had on her. And that's the beauty of this is that I probably would've ended up either having, she wouldn't be around and I, yeah.
Oh, I get it. '
Julie Howton: cause I was on that same trajectory. Yeah.
Paul Barattiero: Yeah. I,
Julie Howton: you know, I'm, I don't know anybody else who's so happy to be 56, but I didn't think I'd see 50. So, yeah. It's, you know, it, it really is a, a beautiful perspective shift. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and, and you know, um, I also wanna let listeners know and, um, they can find out more about this on, on your website as well, but you do all kinds of educational webinars and I mean people who wanna like really learn.
Uh, you know, Paul is, is out there all the time. Thank you. Um, educating people and, and I've learned a lot just from listening to you on other interviews, but also from the, the webinars that you put out, they're free. Um, thank you. So I would say, you know, also Friday night like. Although yours are Thursday, they They're on Thursday.
Yeah, Thursday night. I gotta take
Paul Barattiero: my wife on a date on Friday.
Julie Howton: So Thursday night, listen to the webinar. Friday night, read the studies. It works out perfectly. All things hydrogen water.
Paul Barattiero: Yes. So, Paul, thank you. And you know, for those of you. Who wanna know who else uses our water. You know, Dwayne Johnson, Jason Sta, um, you know Joe Rogan.
Use our water. Dana White with the UFC, the 49 ERs, the Raiders, the Dodgers.
Julie Howton: So we'll all be elite athletes, is that what you're saying? Or like amazing interviewers.
Paul Barattiero: Yeah, we'll all look like the rock, but
Julie Howton: God forbid, you know, Ken
Paul Barattiero: Kendall Jenner, the Kardashians, you know, I mean, we can go on with a bunch of amazing women as well, but more
Julie Howton: importantly, a lot, a lot, a lot of people who are really taking their health seriously.
Yes, yes. Um, and either wanting to heal or wanting to uplevel and are focused on longevity.
Paul Barattiero: Well, I, I would tell you this, those of you listening. That have autoimmune issues. The reason all of these people who are famous have our water is 'cause they got issues. Right. And that's what you need to understand.
When I talked to Zach Effron years ago, he was on a mono diet for 10 years. Yeah. Because he couldn't eat stuff. He's hard
Julie Howton: hardcore into health and wellness. Yep. And so
Paul Barattiero: now he drinks echo water and he is like, you can tell anyone you want. I love you and I love your water. Because now I'm eating foods that I haven't been able to eat in 10 years.
And, and here's what I want you to understand. Doesn't matter how much money you have, all these people I mentioned have crazy, crazy cash. Yeah. But if you don't have your health, have issues, right? That's right. Yeah. Yeah. And so money doesn't get you good health. Hydrogen water will get you good health. And honestly, 2 99, right?
2 99, you imagine this is probably the least expensive money Zach Aron ever spent on health. And that was the thing that fixed him. So I would just say that invest in yourself. Uh, we do have financing. Oh. HSA and FSA. All Echo products on Echo water.com are HSA and FSA approved. So you can purchase right through our shopping cart.
With your HSA money and your FSA money. Yeah. So that's the best money you could spend your HSA funds on. So thank you so much, Julie. It's been wonderful.
Julie Howton: It's been such a pleasure. I have, you know, eight, eight hours of other questions I wanna dive into, but I promised we, you know, it's, it's gonna be date night tonight.
Paul Barattiero: Right.
Julie Howton: So, yeah. Um, I promised I would let you go, but I really, really appreciate you sharing your wisdom. Yeah. And again, just sharing your life's work with us. Sure. Um, because it's a game changer. And, and yeah. Um, I will, like full disclosure, I have been playing with hydrogen water in different forms and different ways for many years.
Yeah. Um, and, and this is, this is really the real deal. Um, and like you said, it, it, it ends up being. So affordable. Yeah. You know, I, I hear, I cringe, like, I hear my employees all the time talk about how they can't afford this or they can't afford that, and they all come in with their, you know, yeah.
Starbucks. Yeah. They, you know, the, this is $10 copies, it's an investment. Um, yeah. And, and I say for the skeptics, dig into the science. Yeah. And, um, and then give it a try. For sure.
Paul Barattiero: The other thing I would say, for those of you out there who have autoimmune, you probably have some other things like uh, low vitamin D levels and you probably have some other things.
And so. I founded and own Echo water.com, and that's where I first helped my wife. There were residual things that I had to help her with because she had extremely low vitamin D three, so she ended up with long COVID. I had two days of COVID low energy. She had six weeks. Right? And that's because her vitamin D levels were low and.
So what did I do? I developed a Vitamin D light that will double vitamin D levels in 90 days. There's nothing else in the world. It's patented and that's what we do. So I'm one of these guys that is so in love with my clean. He's not
Julie Howton: stopping.
Paul Barattiero: No, I'm not stopping because I, I have another whole company in the light space where we take the beauty of the sun and we harvest the good.
Nanometers and wavelengths out of the sun. That truly changed the body, and we've done that as well. And so we, we should do a podcast sometime on that because Yeah. Come
Julie Howton: back and, and, and, yeah, educate us on that and share that for sure. Yeah. My wife's vitamin
Paul Barattiero: D levels were so low and she had been, she had been on IV and supplements for 18 months.
Didn't move much. 90 days later after developing the light, she, she tripled her vitamin D levels and now she's like, whoa, this is so much different. 'cause that's gonna affect dopamine, it's gonna affect serotonin, it's gonna affect balance, it's gonna affect brain energy. It's a lot of things. But that's, we can talk about that, uh, another time because that's a whole podcast.
On light. Yeah. Red light, infrared, UVB. There's so many things you can do with the light. And that's
Julie Howton: the thing, it's, it's, you know, no one, we need to change that mindset of, you know, the one fix, right? If I do this one thing, all my problems are solved. Most of us got two chronic illness of, with years and years of things going on behind the scenes, and we still need to address that.
Like I still
Paul Barattiero: for sure.
Julie Howton: You know, I, I'm still supporting my body in the other ways it needs, um, yes. And, and so I love that you said that and yeah, it's now it's out there. Your invitation to come back and, and yeah. Yeah. Talk to us about, about light and, and vitamin D and all of that goodness as well. So thank you, Paul.
Paul Barattiero: Thank you, Julie. Appreciate it.
Julie Howton: For everyone listening, remember you can get the links and the show notes. And transcripts by visiting Inspired Living Show. I hope you had a great time and enjoyed this episode as much as I did. I'll see you next week.
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Dr. Paul Barattiero, ND is a pioneering advocate for molecular hydrogen therapy with over two decades of experience in the health and wellness industry. His life mission is to spread awareness of how hydrogen water can enhance quality of life by helping to prevent disease by neutralizing harmful free radicals and mitigating oxidative stress and inflammation. He currently resides in Lehi, Utah with his wife and one son.
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