Episode 171
Esther Katz:Why Traditional Talk Therapy Hits a Glass Ceiling in Healing Chronic Illness
Esther Katz:
Why Traditional Talk Therapy Hits a Glass Ceiling in Healing Chronic Illness
Have you ever felt stuck in your healing journey, despite years of traditional therapy?
In this episode, Rapid Transformational Therapist Esther Katz reveals why many people hit a 'glass ceiling' in talk therapy and how accessing the subconscious mind could be the key to breakthrough healing. Drawing from neuroscience and her experience helping clients overcome chronic conditions, Esther explains the profound connection between childhood experiences and autoimmune conditions, and why understanding alone isn't enough for true healing.
Learn about a gentle yet powerful approach to healing trauma without re-traumatization, and discover why the subconscious mind holds 85% of your healing potential. Whether you're struggling with chronic illness, anxiety, or simply feeling stuck in your wellness journey, this episode offers fresh insights into the mind-body connection and practical steps toward lasting transformation.
In this episode, Rapid Transformational Therapist Esther Katz reveals why many people hit a 'glass ceiling' in talk therapy and how accessing the subconscious mind could be the key to breakthrough healing. Drawing from neuroscience and her experience helping clients overcome chronic conditions, Esther explains the profound connection between childhood experiences and autoimmune conditions, and why understanding alone isn't enough for true healing.
Learn about a gentle yet powerful approach to healing trauma without re-traumatization, and discover why the subconscious mind holds 85% of your healing potential. Whether you're struggling with chronic illness, anxiety, or simply feeling stuck in your wellness journey, this episode offers fresh insights into the mind-body connection and practical steps toward lasting transformation.
First Aired on: Dec 23, 2024
Episode 171
Esther Katz:Why Traditional Talk Therapy Hits a Glass Ceiling in Healing Chronic Illness
Esther Katz:
Why Traditional Talk Therapy Hits a Glass Ceiling in Healing Chronic Illness
Have you ever felt stuck in your healing journey, despite years of traditional therapy?
In this episode, Rapid Transformational Therapist Esther Katz reveals why many people hit a 'glass ceiling' in talk therapy and how accessing the subconscious mind could be the key to breakthrough healing. Drawing from neuroscience and her experience helping clients overcome chronic conditions, Esther explains the profound connection between childhood experiences and autoimmune conditions, and why understanding alone isn't enough for true healing.
Learn about a gentle yet powerful approach to healing trauma without re-traumatization, and discover why the subconscious mind holds 85% of your healing potential. Whether you're struggling with chronic illness, anxiety, or simply feeling stuck in your wellness journey, this episode offers fresh insights into the mind-body connection and practical steps toward lasting transformation.
In this episode, Rapid Transformational Therapist Esther Katz reveals why many people hit a 'glass ceiling' in talk therapy and how accessing the subconscious mind could be the key to breakthrough healing. Drawing from neuroscience and her experience helping clients overcome chronic conditions, Esther explains the profound connection between childhood experiences and autoimmune conditions, and why understanding alone isn't enough for true healing.
Learn about a gentle yet powerful approach to healing trauma without re-traumatization, and discover why the subconscious mind holds 85% of your healing potential. Whether you're struggling with chronic illness, anxiety, or simply feeling stuck in your wellness journey, this episode offers fresh insights into the mind-body connection and practical steps toward lasting transformation.
First Aired on: Dec 23, 2024
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In this episode, I talk with Esther Katz about the limitations of traditional talk therapy and how accessing our subconscious mind through Rapid Transformational Therapy (RTT) can create profound healing in chronic illness. Esther shares her personal journey from a successful tech career to becoming an RTT practitioner after experiencing remarkable healing from her own debilitating anxiety and panic attacks.
Introduction
Esther Katz is a Rapid Transformational Therapist trained personally by Marisa Peer, the creator of RTT. After spending 20 years in marketing and technology, she transitioned to becoming a full-time RTT practitioner and neuroplasticity coach, helping people overcome various mental and physical health challenges through subconscious healing work.
Episode Highlights
Understanding RTT and Its Unique Approach
RTT is a hybrid method based on the understanding that 85% of our mental and emotional life is driven by the subconscious mind. Unlike traditional therapy, RTT provides faster results by directly accessing and working with the subconscious through gentle hypnosis.
- RTT combines various therapeutic approaches into one comprehensive method
- The subconscious mind is the most powerful force in human healing
- Clients maintain full control during sessions while achieving deep relaxation
- Results can be achieved much faster than traditional talk therapy
The Glass Ceiling of Traditional Therapy
Many people reach a point in traditional therapy where they understand their issues intellectually but can't create real change. This is where accessing the subconscious becomes crucial.
- Understanding alone doesn't create change
- Talk therapy primarily works with the conscious mind
- Hypnosis provides safe access to the subconscious
- Combining adult awareness with childhood experiences creates powerful healing
The Connection Between Childhood Experiences and Autoimmunity
Research shows that people with four or more adverse childhood experiences (ACEs) are 2.5 times more likely to develop autoimmune diseases.
- ACEs range from having a distant parent to severe trauma
- Early trauma disrupts the body's stress response system
- Childhood experiences can manifest as physical symptoms in adulthood
- Understanding these connections is crucial for healing
Safety and Effectiveness in Trauma Work
RTT provides a gentle approach to addressing trauma without retraumatization, using specific protocols designed for safety and effectiveness.
- Clients remain present and grounded during sessions
- The approach emphasizes reviving but not reliving experiences
- Careful screening ensures the method is appropriate for each client
- The process allows for both emotional release and cognitive understanding
The Role of Self-Mastery in Healing
Understanding and believing in our power to change is fundamental to the healing process.
- We have the power to change our thoughts and emotions
- Physical healing follows mental and emotional shifts
- Self-belief is crucial for transformation
- Regular reinforcement of positive self-mastery supports healing
Notable Quotes
You cannot fix what you don't understand, but it's not enough to understand.
Esther Katz
I want you to leave my session with a firm belief that you are the master of your own life. You have all the power that comes to you through the Creator to change whatever thoughts and emotions you are feeling and thinking.
Esther Katz
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Episode Transcript
Esther Katz:[00:00:00] You get the feeling of a glass ceiling, you have reached the level of understanding on the conscious level and you cannot kind of move further than that. You understand everything but you feel like you cannot really do anything about it, where you understand that your subconscious mind needs attention. You are fine on the conscious level, but subconsciously, you hardly can fix anything. Where the state of mild trance during the RTT session, there are only two ways to reach subconsciousness. It's through psychedelic and hypnosis is the mild, safe, legal side of work.
Julie Michelson:[00:01:00] Welcome back to the inspired living with auto immunity podcast. I'm your host, Julie Michelson. Today I'm joined by Esther Katz, a former CMO for deep tech companies, who's raised over a million, a hundred million dollars throughout her stellar career. However, her deep understanding of the mental health and necessity for quick, impactful results led her to transition into Rapid Transformational Therapy, RTT.
Julie Michelson: Esther combines her business acumen, coaching techniques, and Therapeutic expertise to help individuals overcome emotional and psychological barriers, delivering fast and transformative results through RTT. She takes a particular interest in the mind [00:02:00] body connection with ongoing research into the link between developmental trauma and the onset of autoimmune expression.
Julie Michelson: In today's conversation, we are diving into RTT and the connection between the subconscious and autoimmunity. Esther shares how RTT works and incorporating it into your healing journey can create significant improvements in health.
Julie Michelson: Esther, welcome to the podcast.
Esther Katz: Thank you so much for having me, Julie. I'm so excited.
Julie Michelson: I am as well. I, I'm so excited to share with listeners what you're doing. Um, and I would love for listeners to get to know you by hearing more about your stories that literally everybody I interview. you know, didn't think when they were younger that they'd end up in the wellness and healing space, um, or they thought they would be a, you know, traditionally trained doctor and then [00:03:00] they shifted to the functional medicine world.
Julie Michelson: So please share your story because I know that, you know, your, your past life, so to speak, this go round though, was, um, more in the, in the business space than in the healing space.
Esther Katz: Yeah, well, you know, what's interesting is that, um, I actually, um, did want to end up in, in the medical field. Uh, I remember when I was about six to seven years old, I got my hands on the book about plague and other infectious diseases.
Esther Katz: And that was my favorite book for like two years. And my parents were absolutely thrilled. Horrified. And here I am, you know, working with a life changing diagnosis. Um, uh, almost, uh, yeah, for 40 years later, um, I didn't want to be a doctor. It didn't happen. And I made a career in marketing technology, marketing, blockchain.
Esther Katz: And I [00:04:00] worked in this space for 20 years. At the same time, my passion for. healing cure medicine in all its shape and form. Um, you know, never left me. So I did a lot of self education and self study. And then about 10 years ago, several events in my life led me to have a, um, you know, a mental disorder and, uh, I experienced very heavy anxiety and, uh, panic And, um, that led me on the journey of discovery of the healing for these conditions.
Esther Katz: Nothing really helped me. Medication was not really helpful and I didn't want to stay on meds for a long time anyway. So I tried every existing modality until I very accidentally clicked on the link on Google search and I have my first RTT session. [00:05:00] RTT is rapid transformational therapy and I am a rapid transformational therapist.
Esther Katz: And as a lot of us, how we come to this modality is by experiencing it as clients. My therapist at that time, she's retired now. Um, she managed to find a way into my subconscious and help me and guide me to completely eliminate my panic attacks that were already very debilitating at that time. And I was almost house ridden.
Esther Katz: I couldn't leave the house without the and I am eight years panic attack free, no anxiety
Julie Michelson: and
Esther Katz: happy and striving and Yeah, you know, you could call it a miracle of healing, but this is what happened. And then I, you know, I researched RTT and I went to study, took me two years to graduate. I graduated, um, on a personal one on one course with Marie, Marissa Peer, who is a British therapist, the creator of, uh, Rapid [00:06:00] Transformational Therapy.
Esther Katz: And, um, I retired from my tech job in Congratulations. And, uh, my therapy and neuroplasticity coaching practice is what I do full time.
Julie Michelson: I love it. I'm so happy for you and so excited to share this modality with listeners. Can you give us a little bit of like, what is RTT and how is it different from traditional talk therapy, you know, psychoanalysis?
Julie Michelson: Um, cognitive behavior, you know, throw out any of the kind of classics. Um, how, how is it different and how is it maybe similar?
Esther Katz: Um, very similar and very different. So what Marisa did is she, um, she was a therapist for 30 years. She worked in LA. She worked in London and she learned every modality and what she did.
Esther Katz: And she, she, she's very vocal about it is that [00:07:00] she, she created the hybrid method. Hybrid method that is based on the notion that the subconscious mind drives 85 percent of our mental and emotional life, but it's also the most unapproachable part of our, you know, mental and emotional activity. It's that, you know, the conscious mind is the tip of the iceberg, is 15 percent to 25 percent different sources give different numbers.
Esther Katz: And then 85 percent is below the water. And this is what we don't see, we don't feel, we don't think about it, yet it's the limbic system. It's the ancient part of our brain, and it's the most powerful force in a human being. And Marisa always believed that. [00:08:00] Power within is the ability to heal and to cure, and that a human being is able to connect, to activate, and to heal whatever condition they have, physical or mental or emotional.
Esther Katz: And with years of practice, She learned from her clients what works what didn't and she created a modality which is an independent modality acknowledged by you know every organization in the world and This is what I learned. This is what I practice And I use rtt in my coaching sessions what I call neuroplasticity coach which is using the ability of brain to create new neural connections You new habits, new beliefs, and change the life through this way.
Esther Katz: Yes.
Julie Michelson: That's amazing. I love it. I, I, you know, we have had episodes on [00:09:00] neuroplasticity. We, uh, many of us highlight often the importance of the mind body connection in creating illness and in creating wellness. Um, and, and so I love, because also RTT is pretty fast, right? Like it's not something that takes 10 years of like heavy work, is it?
Esther Katz: That's a very good point. And this is probably the difference, the key difference between RTT and other types of therapy. Is that we don't believe that it is necessary to be in therapy for years to fix an issue. And see, that was also a problem for me as a client. I remember working with my therapist who was amazing, absolutely incredible and helped me a lot, but at some point, this is what happened to me.
Esther Katz: And this is what happened to every client that I have seen so far is [00:10:00] that. You start you get the feeling of a glass ceiling you have reached the level of understanding on the conscious level and you cannot kind of move further than that and You understand everything but you feel like you cannot really do anything about it and this gap This is where you understand that your subconscious mind needs attention You are fine on the conscious level, but subconsciously, through talk therapy, you hardly can fix anything.
Esther Katz: And this is where hypnosis or the state of mild trance that we put our clients in during the RTT session, this is where it comes very, very handy because, you know, there are only two ways to reach subconsciousness. It's through psychedelic and hypnosis. Hypnosis is the mild, safe, legal side of work No matter where you
Julie Michelson: live.
Julie Michelson: Yeah. Yeah. And, and, um, [00:11:00] thank you for bringing that point up because I think that is part of the You know, a key, right? Like you said, it's back to that iceberg of, I, you know, I, I get this visual of somebody can, you know, go to their therapist weekly for years and years and years, but you know, it's, we can't think our way out or plan our way out of things that are being driven by this subconscious mind.
Julie Michelson: Um, and, and so I'm glad that you highlighted that using hypnosis is is the tool you use. To with your training and techniques to allow people to create real change.
Esther Katz: Yeah. Uh, you know, just yesterday I had this, this new clients and we were talking about how she came to the decision to try RTT with me. And, you know, he's been in therapy.
Esther Katz: He knows the issues with his mother and his grandmother and his dad left early, you know, adverse [00:12:00] childhood experiences. And, um, he knows all that, but it doesn't help him to move one millimeter from the state of anxiety and social anxiety and inability to speak up for himself. It just doesn't.
Julie Michelson: Alga, you mentioned adverse childhood.
Julie Michelson: experiences, which I believe everybody has, but, but how do they, and maybe we can play with the difference between, you know, somebody that, that ends up fueling autoimmunity or chronic illness or mental health challenges versus, you know, Those who don't seem to have a negative impact on their life from it.
Julie Michelson: But, but what is this connection between adverse childhood experiences and autoimmunity, for example?
Esther Katz: So, you know, what is the adverse childhood experience? There are levels to this. You know, [00:13:00] having a distant mother is an adverse childhood experience. Having been sexually abused is also an adverse childhood experience.
Esther Katz: Of course, If a person has a combination, and most people do have a combination, not just one, and the more ACEs a person has, so people with 4 plus ACEs are 2. 5 times more likely to develop autoimmune diseases. This is the CDP research, as you know, it was launched, I think, in the end of 90s, around 2000s, and they have researched thousands of people, and this is the conclusion they came to.
Esther Katz: And it's very interesting how this research was launched. It was initiated by a physician who was running a, um, um, um, weight loss claim, right? And he noticed that there were certain clients that would [00:14:00] lose weight while they were in the program, but then they would gain weight back very, very rapidly and he could not understand what was going on.
Esther Katz: So he started doing in depth interviews. And during those in depth interviews, he noticed that every person who had the rapid weight gain, uh, they had been sexually abused. So he thought it must have been an incident. So he started talking to other weight loss clinics. They started doing the research and they discovered the same correlation, and then they brought it up to, you know, on the, um, state level, on the federal level, and this is how this research was launched, and it proved the fact that there is a very strong correlation.
Esther Katz: You know, uh, let's say military, active duty military, um, one unit, three officers or soldiers can be in the same dramatic event, yet, um, Two will survive it with no [00:15:00] particularly serious PTSD, and one person will be very, very traumatized. And when you go back into the childhood experiences, it's guaranteed that this person had a number of ACEs.
Julie Michelson: And I want to point out for people that aren't familiar with ACE, um, at which it's easy to find. I mean, you know, we can, you can just Google it and you'll see the list. Not everything has to be that capital T trauma, right? You know, not everything is something that you're even again, back to aware and not aware.
Julie Michelson: Take care. You may not even be aware that, that, you know, some of your childhood experiences are under the surface driving what's happening in your life. Um, and, and so that's kind of that difference of, you can have a number, a number of them that didn't necessarily feel like conscious trauma when you were a kid, you [00:16:00] know, so it is, it is a really, um, useful tool.
Julie Michelson: And what I love about what you're doing is cause the, the understanding, like you said, something only, you know, that's great. That's an important first step, right? I always say when we want to create change, we need awareness first. Um, but then you're providing people a tool to actually do something about it today, which is just, it's amazing.
Esther Katz: No, you cannot fix what you don't understand, but it's not enough to understand. It's very important to make those connections, and in the state of mild trans, what happens is that people become honest with themselves, sometimes for the first time in their lives. Because as children, we love our parents and we will find all sorts of excuses to [00:17:00] justify their behavior.
Esther Katz: A lot of my clients will start the session with saying, Oh, I had wonderful childhood. Just amazing. Um, well, how, okay. You have some issues now. How about your siblings? Oh yeah. My brother, you know, tried to commit suicide. Oh, you know, my sister is severely overweight. Okay. So let's talk more about your childhood.
Esther Katz: No, my parents loved us. They were absolutely amazing. And then as you, you, you put a person in a state of hypnosis, then they start recollecting how parents treated them. And they cannot justify violence anymore because it becomes very obvious to them the correlation between how they were treated, how they felt about themselves at that time, the blame they took on themselves, because this is what the child does.
Esther Katz: The child will not put the blame on the parent. The child will accumulate the blame and self hate and self punishment. And this is where we see [00:18:00] the flare ups. Because when similar emotions are triggered by events in adulthood. This is when we see a lot of flare ups in rheumatoid arthritis and diverticulitis and similar autoimmune diseases.
Esther Katz: I can give you an example. My, uh, my client Z, she, she lives in South Africa and she had a difficult childhood. The mother left Three children, very early age. She was around five or six at that time. And the dad was taking care about the family. He was the caregiver and the breadmaker and, um, a lot of stress, a lot of strain, started drinking and she, she was, um, curious and lively child.
Esther Katz: And she, she got a lot for it. Her dad was constantly angry with her. And. She remembers anticipating the punishment [00:19:00] coming from him for something that she would do at school or in the backyard or going to somebody's house, just being naughty and, you know, curious about behaving herself. And she believed until the day of the session that She was to blame for her dad beating her up.
Julie Michelson: Yeah.
Esther Katz: But what we have discovered is the feeling that she had a ball of hot pain in her stomach was exactly how she would describe her symptoms of diverticulitis.
Julie Michelson: Sure.
Esther Katz: And she accumulated through her whole lifetime because she started having first symptoms of diverticulitis in her late 20s. Something triggered, but the feeling was already there.
Esther Katz: And then something happened at her workplace and it became a constant symptom and she had to be in the ER a few times a month.
Julie Michelson: When she was
Esther Katz: able to make that connection, she understood that that ball of pain. doesn't have a place in her life anymore. [00:20:00] She doesn't, there is no danger coming from that.
Esther Katz: There is no self punishment. All of this was, but is absolutely irrelevant right now. And it's not me. It's my job is to guide the client to make those connections and to eliminate what we call the role, function, and purpose of the symptom. When you take away the power from the disease, it
Julie Michelson: goes. That's amazing.
Julie Michelson: I one of the questions that keeps popping up in my head. So I'm guessing listeners are curious as well. Um, Often in certain types of talk therapy, and, you know, the, the approach to, you know, working through the trauma. I know a lot of people that have been re kind of re traumatized have had to re experience.
Julie Michelson: trauma and, and to me that, you know, can [00:21:00] often be the downside of therapy. It has a time and a place. And, and, um, I was a psychology major. I, I have lots of grad school hours and, and, um, Therapy and, you know, but there is a downside, I believe, for some people, um, when that approach is taken. So is there, is that a concern in RTT at all, or does being in that state of a mild trans, you know, does that, is that created like a safety net?
Julie Michelson: Yeah, so
Esther Katz: a few points here, it's a very, very good question. And actually what I was dealing with recently, helping a colleague of mine who had some working with somebody who was traumatized through a hypnotic session, not an RTT session, just. hypnosis and the protocol was not in my opinion done correctly and that person went into a state of psychosis because they were retraumatized and then they were sent to an RTT specialist to kind [00:22:00] of work on the retraumatization symptoms because RTT is much more mild than your regular hypnosis the kind of let's say hit on the head techniques to stop smoking, right?
Esther Katz: Gotcha. It doesn't work with trauma. You cannot use the same protocols with trauma. We treat our clients who were traumatized. With a lot of care and very, very, um, gently, let's say, okay, so there is a lot of safety created around them with they are told that they're, they're reviving but not relieving this experience.
Esther Katz: Yeah, they're here present, you know, a lot of grounding techniques are used. And. There are contraindications. So, um, if a person experiences epilepsy, uh, has schizophrenia or other mental illness, hypnosis [00:23:00] is contraindicated. So it's very, very important to have the whole medical history prior to making a decision to work with a client.
Julie Michelson: really, really good information for people. Um, but also I want to highlight so many of us, and I can include myself, you know, will become aware of trauma and then shove it back down, you know, because we don't want to relive it. We don't want to experience it. We don't want to wallow in it. Um, yet we haven't dealt with it and released it either.
Julie Michelson: So, um, I, I love, that was one of the reasons I was really excited to interview you because, um, I haven't experienced, you know, RTT myself, but the research that I did got me really excited that, that, you know, there is this therapeutic approach that seems. to hit a lot of kind of the resistances people have to getting help.
Julie Michelson: It doesn't [00:24:00] take 20 years of sitting on somebody's couch. Um, it's, it can be safe, you know, safer, faster, gentler. I like that word that you use, gentle. Um, And so, you know, I, I just, I was very excited that, that you wanted to come on and join us.
Esther Katz: You know, the first time I had to experience RTT and I was told by my therapist that, you know, she will hypnotize me.
Esther Katz: I was absolutely terrified. Sure. Um, as somebody with anxiety and panic attacks, I was sure that I'm gonna go in a full blown panic attack as soon as I will close my eyes and I will lose complete control. And as you know, loss of control. That's the first
Julie Michelson: word that came up when you said that. I was like, Oh.
Esther Katz: Right.
Julie Michelson: Yeah.
Esther Katz: But, but it's the beauty of hypnosis when done properly is that. You don't lose control at all. You absolutely control everything, but you're, you're able [00:25:00] to be relaxed and focused at the same time. I don't know any other state except the meditative state, of course, the goal of which is to be relaxed and focused.
Esther Katz: That gives you the same feeling. So in hypnosis, even when you are going back to the event, And you are feeling the same emotion that you felt when you were a child at the same time as an adult, you are present and you are watching over and you are able to interfere. When it becomes too much, it has never happened to any of my clients that they would want to stop a session because it was too much because there is always a balance and we use that natural balance that is created in the state of hypnosis to, um, to do the inner child work because, you know, in, in traditional therapy, you do inner child work, but you do it in the state of [00:26:00] consciousness and the therapist tells you, imagine you as a child sitting on a riverbank or whatever.
Esther Katz: In the state of hypnosis, we say, go back to the age and your subconscious mind that knows what's good for you will choose the age and go there and be there and be that child. So it's the imagination works. And we don't know if it's imagination or subconscious or what is this. It doesn't matter. Yeah.
Esther Katz: That's just words. That is because it has a therapeutic effect. Yeah. And because it's in hypnosis, a person can be two people at the same time, the child and the adult, and it comes very, very naturally.
Julie Michelson: Amazing. I love that. Uh, that's, yeah. So when somebody comes to work with you, do they, you know, need to already be aware of like, Oh, you know, I have this trauma or they're coming to you.
Julie Michelson: Cause they're like, you know, I can't live this way [00:27:00] anymore. Help.
Esther Katz: No, they, they absolutely, they don't need to be aware of the trauma. Most people will be, and this will come up in the first session, but it's not a condition. What, what is the condition though is, um, is an intent and intention to feel better.
Esther Katz: I
Julie Michelson: love that. I love that. I know I had, I had this whole idea of like all these, you know, digging into the, the, well, I will ask you this and, and hopefully I won't, I won't go too far down the rabbit hole, but, um, You know, we talked about the childhood experiences. Um, why is what we what I call and maybe that's too big of an umbrella term.
Julie Michelson: The the mind body connection, you know, so important. Um. I do feel like at least, especially with autoimmunity, but, but probably, you know, pick any [00:28:00] chronic anything, you know, we do tend to disconnect. Like we, we've just lost, I think as a protective mechanism, um, lost touch with, we, we don't, we aren't taught to nurture our mind body connection and be aware of that two way street.
Julie Michelson: Um, so, but, Just from your perspective, you know, why is that so important to healing and, and is it really, you made a comment, you said something earlier about, you know, pretty much everything comes back to that. So, so tell us more about the impact, you know, the, the subconscious can have on the body. I think the example you gave us of your client is, you know, Spot on, it made me think of the, of the book, The Body Holds the Score, um, you know, which, if, if listeners haven't read it, grab that one, or Body Keeps the Score, [00:29:00] excuse me, um, but how does it work, or do we need to know how it works?
Esther Katz: The tissue has the issue, you know, um, so there is a scientific explanation, which is basically early trauma disrupts the hypothalamic pituitary adrenal axis, and it triggers chronic inflammation. But at the end of the day, we're talking about the same result, just on a different level. Scientifically, it's what I just explained.
Esther Katz: Then there are spiritual levels, psychological levels. Each one can be chosen depending on where your beliefs are. If you believe in spirituality, then I would say, you know, a human being is a perfect divine creature. It's an eternal soul in a physical embodiment. The Creator wants you to be happy, to be perfect, and to be like the Creator.
Esther Katz: That's the mission and the [00:30:00] purpose of the human life. Having that connection. With yourself is what the Creator has tasked you for your soul to develop during this lifetime. That's why this journey never ends. Can you ever say, Oh, I am completely enlightened or I'm now 100 percent mindful. That will never happen.
Esther Katz: No. That's the beauty and the paradox of the journey. Because we will never be like the Creator, but we strive to be like the Creator. That's why we always want more and better. Uh, and, um, on, on the side of, uh, psychology, you know, it's, uh, it's been wool, you know, for years, but right now all the different modalities, including CBT and psychoanalysis that, um, uh, um, our neurological [00:31:00] system drives every other function in the body.
Esther Katz: and it all comes from the brain. So it's electrical signals, then throws in neurons to the nerves to every organ and tissue in the body. So if your signal is negative, if your signal is, I hate myself. I want to punish myself. I don't deserve better. Such a bad girl. Such a bad boy. I'm a terrible person. I want to die.
Julie Michelson: I'm not worthy. Yeah.
Esther Katz: All the things. What do you think is going to happen? Yeah. I have, I have, um, I have a cancer client. Um, and this lady knew exactly why she got cancer and, you know, the, the universe, the creator are very compassionate. They, they were. but they will not give you immediately exactly what you asked for.
Esther Katz: So she, she was a hardworking woman and [00:32:00] she, she was the head of the family and she got very tired. And at about eight age around 50, she said, I'm so tired. I want to rest. I don't want to live anymore. If I want to be a woman, I have to be weak. And what happened? She got, she, she's, she had symptoms of osteoporosis.
Esther Katz: The same year she made that statement loud and clear, I want to be weak. If I want others to treat me like a woman, I have to be weak. So her bones started breaking and that was not enough. And then she got cancer and now I'm working with her, changing the mindset and treating yourself with compassion, understanding you can love yourself without being sick and others will love you if you are healthy and it will be much easier for them to love you if you're healthy than you are sick.
Esther Katz: So that's. That issue of benefiting from illness is a very complicated issue and [00:33:00] I'm always very careful, but it's there. People do benefit from their illnesses, the secondary benefit, no matter how counterintuitive or tragic that may sound.
Julie Michelson: Changing the
Esther Katz: mindset breaks that connection.
Julie Michelson: And I always like to underscore.
Julie Michelson: And I think the cancer example is a really good one. None of this conversation is to say that symptoms aren't real, or this is all in your head, or It's just that we are whole, complex beings, and our symptoms are just that. They're symptoms. And even, you know, in our diagnosis is really just a name for our collective symptoms.
Julie Michelson: Um, and we're talking about the driver, really, when it, when it comes down to it. So that's, um. You've, you've given [00:34:00] us so much to think about. Um, and I, I really, uh, encourage listeners to find out more, not only about you, about RTT, but, and I know you have a gift. I want to make sure that, that we tell listeners about such a generous gift for listeners.
Julie Michelson: Um, tell us a little bit about what you're, what you're offering.
Esther Katz: I have launched my, uh, program for autoimmune and other life changing diagnosis clients recently, and I invite you to, uh, join me for a one hour session, um, free of charge for listeners of Joey's podcast. And, um, I promise you that during this session, we will not only talk about your issue, but I will equip you with tools, instruments, and strategies that you will feel an immediate effect of, and will make you feel better emotionally and physically.
Julie Michelson: Amazing. And, [00:35:00] and I, and how can listeners reach out to you?
Esther Katz: Um, please reach out to me through my website, rapid therapy. com. Or find me on Instagram, EstherKatzRabbitTherapy.
Julie Michelson: Amazing. Esther, we're at that point of the podcast where people are leaning in because they want to hear your one step that they can take starting today to improve their health.
Esther Katz: And this is what I always tell my clients. I want you to leave my session with a firm belief that you are the master of your own life. Thank you. You have all the power that come to you through the Creator to change whatever thoughts and emotions you are feeling and thinking. And from that change, everything else will come.
Esther Katz: But the main thing is to always remember you are the master of your body, of your mind, of your emotions.
Julie Michelson: I love it. Amazing. And [00:36:00] that's exactly why we have the podcast. It's all about empowerment. And so I love that is a beautiful step tip that nobody has given, um, and, and listeners write it down. I would, you know, remind yourselves.
Julie Michelson: So amazing. Write it down
Esther Katz: on your mirror in the bathroom so that it's the first thing you see in the morning. I am the master of my destiny. I'm the master of my life. It's up to me. What I decide
Julie Michelson: happens. Such a gift. Esther, thank you so much for joining us today.
Esther Katz: Thank you so much, Julie. It was a great pleasure.
Julie Michelson: For everyone listening, remember you can get the transcripts and show notes by visiting inspiredliving. show. I hope you had a great time and enjoyed this episode as much as I did. I'll see you next week.
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Esther Katz, a former CMO for deep tech companies in AI, blockchain, and SaaS, has raised over $100M throughout her stellar career. However, her deep understanding of mental health and the necessity for quick, impactful results led her to transition into Rapid Transformational Therapy (RTT), a Maris Peer method. After receiving certification in classical Chinese medicine from the Israeli College of Classical Chinese Medicine, she shifted her focus toward mental wellness. Esther combines her business acumen, coaching techniques, and therapeutic expertise to help individuals overcome emotional and psychological barriers, delivering fast and transformative results through RTT. Esther takes a particular interest in the mind-body connection, with ongoing research into the link between developmental trauma and the onset of autoimmune reactions.
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